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Apr 16, 2019 04:46:03   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Richard94611 wrote:
Wrong. I believe he has made a very important point, but you seem unable to grasp the implications of what he has written.


The point was not pertinent to the conversation....

The implications are hyperbole...

But well done...

Doubling down on a non-argument will certainly increase the importance of the ...

2*0=......

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Apr 16, 2019 05:40:37   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
HonorNCourage57 wrote:
God Help Us: Atheism Becomes Largest Religion In U.S.
As religiosity has declined, social ills have abounded.
Ralf-Finn Hestoft / Getty

By Michael J. Knowles
@michaeljknowles
April 14, 2019

For the first time in history, atheists constitute the largest religious group in America. According to the General Social Survey, the number of Americans who have no religion has increased 266% over the past three decades and now account for 23.1% of the population, just barely edging out Catholics and Evangelicals as the nation’s dominant faith. Mainline Protestant churches have suffered the greatest collapse, declining 62.5% since 1982 and now comprising just 10.8% of the U.S. population.

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As religiosity has declined, social ills have abounded. Nearly one in five American adults suffers from anxiety disorders, which now constitute the most common mental illness in the country. One in six Americans takes antidepressant drugs, a 65% surge over just 15 years. The problem is particularly acute among younger Americans. While depression diagnoses have increased 33% since 2013, that number is up 47% among Millennials and 63% among teenagers. Coincidentally, suicide rates among American teenagers have increased by 70% since 2006. American life expectancy declined again last year, as Americans continue to drug and k**l themselves at record rates.

Social scientists have long since established the link between religiosity and life satisfaction. As social psychologist Sonja Lyubomirsky observes, people who attend religious services several times each week are nearly twice as likely as those who worship less than once a month to describe themselves as “very happy.” Such psychologists simply state the obvious: the belief that God loves you and that you will live with him in eternity offers greater consolation than the view of death as a dirt nap that stiffens you into worm food.


Religious people are also significantly more likely to engage in happy-making behaviors, such as getting and staying married. A study released in 2017 affirmed what countless others had already shown: married couples report higher life satisfaction than their single, divorced, and widowed neighbors. That satisfaction tends to last beyond the honeymoon and well into old age.

The misery epidemic threatens not merely American households but also our halls of power. The late Andrew Breitbart observed that politics is downstream of culture, and culture in turn is downstream of religion. “Cult” and “culture” are etymologically related, and a culture is defined by what it worships. A materialistic culture worships wealth; a licentious culture worships sex; a godly culture worships God. But “our Constitution was made for a moral and religious people,” as John Adams wrote to the Massachusetts m*****a in 1798. “It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

A miserable politics awaits us when the irreligious rot flows downstream. Who but God can help us now?


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Please Lord!!!! Please!!! we must destroy those who do not believe in the Goodness of You and we must all stand together and protect what is Good and Pure and destroy the Evil. I am a True Blue Christian, and i will fight to destroy all that is Evil. Now what do Y'all believe? Bring God back Home and Destroy all who do not follow his Word. AMEN!!!AMEN!!!
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Amen, and Amen!

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Apr 16, 2019 05:41:58   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Noraa wrote:
I agree with you but I don't believe we should destroy everyone that doesn't believe in God. Sounds too much like Muslims.


Need to pray for them all, they need Jesus!

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Apr 16, 2019 05:43:40   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Rose42 wrote:
Christians don't want to destroy atheists but they do want to share the gospel with them.

Funny you mention the mouth because the bible says this about the tongue and its power -

4 Look at the ships also: though they are so large and are driven by strong winds, they are guided by a very small rudder wherever the will of the pilot directs. 5 So also the tongue is a small member, yet it boasts of great things. How great a forest is set ablaze by such a small fire! James 3:4-5


That is so true, power of the tongue to destroy, or lift up!

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Apr 16, 2019 05:50:23   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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The proponents of Godless America are the radical DEMS.. How do they do it?
1.A******ns and k*****g babies even if they are already human, then sell baby parts.
2.Allow so many illegal entries of people without loyalty; who are not Christians especially from the Muslim countries.
3.Allow so many i******s who are not Christians, that democrats want to v**e for them.
4. Public schools run by the labor union democrats are loaded with drugs brought by the Hispanic/Mexican
4A. Kids brought up by parent out of wedlock, not given proper training especially baptism to Christianity.
5.Democrats love the L**T's who are fully given rights that now harass and abuse Christians, and display their immoral lifestyle.
6. Most democrats have unmarried women who could not support their kids but use for dependency to the government. Their kids lack religious training.
7.Most democrats are not Christians, don't respect the sanctity of marriage, they just live together. Their kids become godless,due to lack of religious training. For Catholics marriage in the Church is most important due to the Sacrament required to be a Catholic.
8. Atheists tend to v**e for democrats who support them and empower them. Quid-pro-quo.
9. Colleges and universities have liberal/progressive professors who brainwash the students to disregard our Christian God.
9. Atheists display their full hatred to Christians without any negative consequences.

Note: This country was given a Christian birth with the Judeo-Christian tenets of our constitution, and our Declaration of Independence. Our Founders 99% of them were Christians, the 1% Agnostic, eventually became Christian. These founders came from Europe to escape the religious persecution, and brought with the them most valuable asset they have "The Holy Bible".

The country was discovered by Columbus and Americus Vespucci in 1492 and 1496, both Christians.

Now the radical DEMS are taking away Christianity. Ilhan Omar, and Tlaib are Muslims who h**e America, and want to take over. Pelosi allow them to. Pelosi is a hypocrite who is interested only in her lifetime power. She is not a Christian by her actions and deeds.

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I think she is Catholic, you are so correct, and it got worse when Obama was in office, bringing all his Muslim's friends into power!

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Apr 16, 2019 05:53:31   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
prowdmonky wrote:
The way that people go about their lives and ways in each religion is not very accomodating to bringing in new believers. I am Christian but align my ways with what Jesus would do. I certainly don't cast judgement on others that don't believe and definitely don't cast them as evil or want to rid the earth of them. How can anyone claim to be in the light of our lord with these ideas? Let's show people the joy and peace in our lifes with our religion and not use it to judge those who don't follow but pray for them to find him. If they don't, remember that our God is every forgiving and understand that if you personally heard "NOT Second hand information" that God wont love, forgive and accept his children that are lost and havent found his grace and love". Dont be a judge be an example and more people will follow.
The way that people go about their lives and ways ... (show quote)


Well said, if we lead, and show the joy of the Lord, some will take notice, and may turn to Jesus!

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Apr 16, 2019 05:55:55   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Nickolai wrote:
But we don't want you sharing your gospel with us. We've been trying to get out from under your thumb our whole life. Many of us have been coerced as children and don't want to live in that fantasy make believe world. If you looking for dysfunction look at the red states there is more familial dysfunction in red states than blue states, more opioids, spousal abuse, child abuse, incest, government assistance.


Because born again believers are to spread the "good news", the saving grace of Jesus Christ, only through him can you be born again, by the shedding of his blood, by his grace, you are saved!

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Apr 16, 2019 06:00:20   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Rose42 wrote:
Good post except for one error. Islam does indeed worship a false god. It is a path to destruction.


Correct, there is only one God!

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Apr 16, 2019 06:05:58   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Atheism can’t explain existence. Atheists live by science, but science (always) changes. God and the Bible (always) remain the same.

Thessalonians 2:10-12 and every type of evil to deceive those who are dying, those who refused to love the t***h that would save them. For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie. Then all who have not believed the t***h but have taken pleasure in unrighteousness will be condemned.

If Atheists believe there is no God why are they always so obsessed with Him? Why are they worried about Christians? Why do they view things about Christianity just to mock? Why are there atheist conventions? Why have atheist churches?

If God is not real why does it matter? It’s because they h**e God! Why does life matter? Without God nothing makes sense. There is no reality at all. Atheists can’t account for morality. Why is right, right, and why is wrong, wrong? Atheists can’t account for rationality, logic, and intelligence because their worldview will not allow them to. The only way they can is to take upon the Christian theistic worldview.
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Thank you, well put!

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Apr 16, 2019 06:07:21   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You are really not qualified to make such a statement. By default, the progressive ideology you are faithful to won't allow you to think for yourself. You have never failed to demonstrate how thoroughly you depend on ideological biases and prejudices in guiding your thoughts.

Oh, I think I'm more than qualified. At least I have taken a course in political science so know more than my own made up definition about ideology. Conservatism is an ideology that is regressive, relies on tradition, and tries to shut down change. Look it up and tell me if that isn't the best definition for conservatism and more important look at yourselves and your own behavior which proves my point.

You don't have to be a thinking person to desire to go back to some "better" time and then simply refuse to change even if that change would benefit you. MAGA baby!!! That's a slogan that is more propaganda but fully describes how you conservative feel. Trump's promise was to bring back some past greatness not JFKesk and move us to some future greatness.

Don't you remember our past discussions? You were convinced that an Obama/Hillary cabal had put Muller in place for the sole purpose of taking down Trump. Even though at the center of that conspiracy theory of yours lie Rob Rosenstein who was appointed by none other than Donald Trump. This begs the question--was Trump complicit in the Obama/Hillary cabal and if not was it is sheer luck that Mueller found his appointment and was positioned to take down your fearless leader. Well, I know of no Cabal that relies on sheer luck for success but that is what you were asking me to believe.

Remember the question posed is who thinks for themselves. Well, you weren't even able to see through the obvious flaw in your own argument and I doubt that today you've obtained such capabilities. Nope, you were more than happy to rely on someone else to make your argument for you and then you passed it on once they told you what to say. That it fell apart made no difference--those you were selling it too were more than happy to pass it on simply because they agreed with what it said. So are we talking about any great thinking for yourselves??? Nope, not one bit.

As for myself, well at least I could see through your canard without the need for anyone to tell me what to say. Nope, I figured out the flaw in your logic and I couldn't do that unless I thought for myself...

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Apr 16, 2019 06:33:34   #
Radiance3
 
Richard94611 wrote:
If atheists are so often concerned about Christianity and Christians it is because Christians very often try to inflict the Christian religion on non-Christians. Religious Christians falsely claim when their efforts to force Christianity on non-Christians are stopped that in this country there is a “war” on Christianity. There isn’t. But there is a war against allowing Christians to force their views and practices on others. Tolerance does not seem to be a Christian virtue.


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Wrong! That is your opinion, get that out of your mind.

Christians don't force non-Christians on their religion. We never do that. We show examples of how to live as Christians as Jesus had though us.

It is about loving others, and showing examples the way how to live. Teach good morals, humility, ethics, personal responsibility, serve those who are the least of us. Build schools and educate children, build medical centers and hospitals. Heal the sick and wounded, love our country and serve.

That is how we Christians live. We don't enforce others to follow. But we show them examples of how we live. We welcome and rejoice all those who want to join, and celebrate, and worship the love of Christ to all of us.

If they don't follow, that is their choice to become Atheists.

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Apr 16, 2019 06:48:35   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Islam also knows of Christ and denies he is the Son of God...
No contradiction in saying the God of Muslims is the God of Christianity...

I would never claim that that the God of the Jews is not the God of Christianity... Or Islam...


Of course its a contradiction to claim the god ofnislam is the God of Christianity. Islam contradicts the bible. There is one way to be saved. The Christian worldview is unique - saving grace is free. No good works will get it for you. The koran doesn’t have the wisdom or depth of the bible either.

Also in contrasting the lives of Christ and Mohammed they are vastly different. In denying Christ’s deity and in denying the Trinity they deny God. For the three are one.

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Apr 16, 2019 07:12:08   #
PeterS
 
Louie27 wrote:
You don't understand true religion as much as you believe. God has given all humans the ability to think for themselves. God gave man their free will without his interruption.

I understand logic and I understand the fallacies that you create with an Omnipotent and Omniscient god. When you do that you create a god that is all-powerful and able to know everything that will happen before it even does. That's your claim, isn't it? That god so powerful he even able to prophesize?

That means your god knows every thought I would ever have before I could even think it. So the god of your creation would know whether I would be saved before I was even created. So the fact that my salvation would be known to god before I was even created means that free will relating to that salvation is just an illusion.

You created a god too powerful for free will to exist. For free will to exist your god can't have the power to see into the future. He can't know if his creation turns out good or bad. It's his ability to have foreknowledge of what you do that makes your efforts irrelevant.

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Apr 16, 2019 07:16:02   #
Rose42
 
PeterS wrote:
I understand logic and I understand the fallacies that you create with an Omnipotent and Omniscient god. When you do that you create a god that is all-powerful and able to know everything that will happen before it even does. That's your claim, isn't it? That god so powerful he even able to prophesize?

That means your god knows every thought I would ever have before I could even think it. So the god of your creation would know whether I would be saved before I was even created. So the fact that my salvation would be known to god before I was even created means that free will relating to that salvation is just an illusion.

You created a god too powerful for free will to exist. For free will to exist your god can't have the power to see into the future. He can't know if his creation turns out good or bad. It's his ability to have foreknowledge of what you do that makes your efforts irrelevant.
I understand logic and I understand the fallacies ... (show quote)


He may know but we don’t. It doesn’t absolve us of the responsibility to make the choice or to encourage others to do so.

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Apr 16, 2019 07:20:51   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Of course its a contradiction to claim the god ofnislam is the God of Christianity. Islam contradicts the bible. There is one way to be saved. The Christian worldview is unique - saving grace is free. No good works will get it for you. The koran doesn’t have the wisdom or depth of the bible either.

Also in contrasting the lives of Christ and Mohammed they are vastly different. In denying Christ’s deity and in denying the Trinity they deny God. For the three are one.


Of course the Christian worldview is unique... All faiths are unique...
Is there another faith that mimics Judaism? or
Hinduism?
I begin to doubt that you have read the Koran... Sone excerpts perhaps...

Contrasting the lives of Christ and Mohammed and they are different?
Almost as if they were two different people who were born centuries apart and played different roles...

If denying the Trinity negates belief in God Then there is another of the Abrahamic faiths that you need to disavow... You can't have it both ways...

Perhaps it would be easier for you to accept that Islam worships God the Father alone...

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