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Apr 15, 2019 23:25:01   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
You are unable to answer without contradicting yourself...


Avoiding answering is an answer.

I have answered that before. If they know about Christ yet they deny him they are not saved. No contradiction in saying the God of the Jews is the God of Christianity unless you reject what it says in the bible. God had a covenant with the Jews and they will play an important role on the end times.

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Apr 15, 2019 23:37:58   #
Richard94611
 
One man’s “substantiation” always turns out to be wishful thinking and the result of arbitrary faith. It has been that way ever since people began to think theirs was the true religion.

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
And with substantiation?

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Apr 15, 2019 23:48:03   #
Rose42
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
f you study the Abrahamic foundations of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam you will find only one God. The differences are in what these religions perceive Him to be. It must be noted that in the Koran there are many references to Biblical figures and events, primarily the Torah of Moses, the Psalms (Zabur) of David and the Gospel (Injil) of Jesus. Mohammed's revelations validate the Bible. THE BIBLE AS SEEN BY THE QUR'AN AND THE MUSLIM TRADITIONS

As a Christian you must know the fundamental difference between Christianity on the one hand and Judaism and Islam on the other. Christianity is unique among all the religions on earth, and I'm sure you know why.
f you study the Abrahamic foundations of Judaism, ... (show quote)


One God but the god of the koran is not the same. There is no partial t***h and thats all islam has.

I would ask you to consider this with regards to the koran. Satan knows scripture and he knows Jesus is Lord though he doesn’t accept it. What better way for the father of lies to deceive than create a false religion and get people to believe they worship the same God? One with a sprinkling of t***h to deceive. Islam denies the Trinity and Christs deity.

I may have misinterpreted what you wrote but not the part about what makes Christianity unique.

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Apr 16, 2019 00:00:16   #
Richard94611
 
If you study history, you’ll find that though Christians believe God exists, no one has ever proved the existence of God. It is ALWAYS a matter of faith. The religious conceive of the start and end of the universe, but never conceive of the idea that the universe may always have existed.

Rose42 wrote:
One God but the god of the koran is not the same. There is no partial t***h and thats all islam has.

I would ask you to consider this with regards to the koran. Satan knows scripture and he knows Jesus is Lord though he doesn’t accept it. What better way for the father of lies to deceive than create a false religion and get people to believe they worship the same God? One with a sprinkling of t***h to deceive. Islam denies the Trinity and Christs deity.

I may have misinterpreted what you wrote but not the part about what makes Christianity unique.
One God but the god of the koran is not the same. ... (show quote)

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Apr 16, 2019 00:01:28   #
Radiance3
 
HonorNCourage57 wrote:
God Help Us: Atheism Becomes Largest Religion In U.S.
As religiosity has declined, social ills have abounded.
Ralf-Finn Hestoft / Getty

By Michael J. Knowles
@michaeljknowles
April 14, 2019

For the first time in history, atheists constitute the largest religious group in America. According to the General Social Survey, the number of Americans who have no religion has increased 266% over the past three decades and now account for 23.1% of the population, just barely edging out Catholics and Evangelicals as the nation’s dominant faith. Mainline Protestant churches have suffered the greatest collapse, declining 62.5% since 1982 and now comprising just 10.8% of the U.S. population.

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As religiosity has declined, social ills have abounded. Nearly one in five American adults suffers from anxiety disorders, which now constitute the most common mental illness in the country. One in six Americans takes antidepressant drugs, a 65% surge over just 15 years. The problem is particularly acute among younger Americans. While depression diagnoses have increased 33% since 2013, that number is up 47% among Millennials and 63% among teenagers. Coincidentally, suicide rates among American teenagers have increased by 70% since 2006. American life expectancy declined again last year, as Americans continue to drug and k**l themselves at record rates.

Social scientists have long since established the link between religiosity and life satisfaction. As social psychologist Sonja Lyubomirsky observes, people who attend religious services several times each week are nearly twice as likely as those who worship less than once a month to describe themselves as “very happy.” Such psychologists simply state the obvious: the belief that God loves you and that you will live with him in eternity offers greater consolation than the view of death as a dirt nap that stiffens you into worm food.


Religious people are also significantly more likely to engage in happy-making behaviors, such as getting and staying married. A study released in 2017 affirmed what countless others had already shown: married couples report higher life satisfaction than their single, divorced, and widowed neighbors. That satisfaction tends to last beyond the honeymoon and well into old age.

The misery epidemic threatens not merely American households but also our halls of power. The late Andrew Breitbart observed that politics is downstream of culture, and culture in turn is downstream of religion. “Cult” and “culture” are etymologically related, and a culture is defined by what it worships. A materialistic culture worships wealth; a licentious culture worships sex; a godly culture worships God. But “our Constitution was made for a moral and religious people,” as John Adams wrote to the Massachusetts m*****a in 1798. “It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

A miserable politics awaits us when the irreligious rot flows downstream. Who but God can help us now?


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Please Lord!!!! Please!!! we must destroy those who do not believe in the Goodness of You and we must all stand together and protect what is Good and Pure and destroy the Evil. I am a True Blue Christian, and i will fight to destroy all that is Evil. Now what do Y'all believe? Bring God back Home and Destroy all who do not follow his Word. AMEN!!!AMEN!!!
God Help Us: Atheism Becomes Largest Religion In U... (show quote)


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Atheism can’t explain existence. Atheists live by science, but science (always) changes. God and the Bible (always) remain the same.

Thessalonians 2:10-12 and every type of evil to deceive those who are dying, those who refused to love the t***h that would save them. For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie. Then all who have not believed the t***h but have taken pleasure in unrighteousness will be condemned.

If Atheists believe there is no God why are they always so obsessed with Him? Why are they worried about Christians? Why do they view things about Christianity just to mock? Why are there atheist conventions? Why have atheist churches?

If God is not real why does it matter? It’s because they h**e God! Why does life matter? Without God nothing makes sense. There is no reality at all. Atheists can’t account for morality. Why is right, right, and why is wrong, wrong? Atheists can’t account for rationality, logic, and intelligence because their worldview will not allow them to. The only way they can is to take upon the Christian theistic worldview.

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Apr 16, 2019 00:03:42   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Avoiding answering is an answer.

I have answered that before. If they know about Christ yet they deny him they are not saved. No contradiction in saying the God of the Jews is the God of Christianity unless you reject what it says in the bible. God had a covenant with the Jews and they will play an important role on the end times.


Islam also knows of Christ and denies he is the Son of God...
No contradiction in saying the God of Muslims is the God of Christianity...

I would never claim that that the God of the Jews is not the God of Christianity... Or Islam...

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Apr 16, 2019 00:04:47   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Seriously, dude, is this a thoughtfully considered question? The God of Moses, of Abraham, Issac and Jacob is the God of Judaism and Christianity. It is often difficult to determine where you stand on issues. From one post to the next, it is hard to tell what you believe and don't believe, what you agree with and what you don't, who's the pot and who's the kettle.

Obviously you tend to favor a conservative point of view on most issues, but when you post a thumb's up in response to one member's post, then give a thumb's up to a response that is diametrically opposed to that post, it is impossible to determine which one you agree with, or if you agree with either of them. Maybe the thumb's up is simply a means of giving your approval of a person's right to free speech.

You say you believe in God, that you do not deny Him, but it is not clear just who this god is. There are really only two "versions" of God to choose from, Yahweh and Allah. Over half the world's population believe in one or the other. So where are you in this? Which God, or what god, do you believe in?
Seriously, dude, is this a thoughtfully considered... (show quote)


This requires a lengthy answer... I am currently at lunch with ny family... I promise to respond in the evening...

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Apr 16, 2019 00:13:57   #
Richard94611
 
If atheists are so often concerned about Christianity and Christians it is because Christians very often try to inflict the Christian religion on non-Christians. Religious Christians falsely claim when their efforts to force Christianity on non-Christians are stopped that in this country there is a “war” on Christianity. There isn’t. But there is a war against allowing Christians to force their views and practices on others. Tolerance does not seem to be a Christian virtue.

Radiance3 wrote:
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Atheism can’t explain existence. Atheists live by science, but science (always) changes. God and the Bible (always) remain the same.

Thessalonians 2:10-12 and every type of evil to deceive those who are dying, those who refused to love the t***h that would save them. For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie. Then all who have not believed the t***h but have taken pleasure in unrighteousness will be condemned.

If Atheists believe there is no God why are they always so obsessed with Him? Why are they worried about Christians? Why do they view things about Christianity just to mock? Why are there atheist conventions? Why have atheist churches?

If God is not real why does it matter? It’s because they h**e God! Why does life matter? Without God nothing makes sense. There is no reality at all. Atheists can’t account for morality. Why is right, right, and why is wrong, wrong? Atheists can’t account for rationality, logic, and intelligence because their worldview will not allow them to. The only way they can is to take upon the Christian theistic worldview.
======================== br Atheism can’t explain ... (show quote)

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Apr 16, 2019 00:16:23   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Richard94611 wrote:
If atheists are so often concerned about Christianity and Christians it is because Christians very often try to inflict the Christian religion on non-Christians. Religious Christians falsely claim when their efforts to force Christianity on non-Christians are stopped that in this country there is a “war” on Christianity. There isn’t. But there is a war against allowing Christians to force their views and practices on others. Tolerance does not seem to be a Christian virtue.


Well reasoned...

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Apr 16, 2019 00:16:33   #
Radiance3
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Islam also knows of Christ and denies he is the Son of God...
No contradiction in saying the God of Muslims is the God of Christianity...

I would never claim that that the God of the Jews is not the God of Christianity... Or Islam...


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Athiest don't believe in god.
Islam is radical. It is not a religion but an ideology of hatred. It does not represent the same God with Christianity and the Jews.

Command of allah requires Muslims to k**l the infidels or unbelievers. That is their number one duty to allah their god.


The Qur’an tells us: “not to make friendship with Jews and Christians” (5:51), “k**l the disbelievers wherever we find them” (2:191), “murder them and treat them harshly” (9:123), “fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem”

(9:5). The Qur’an demands that we fight the unbelievers, and promises “If there are twenty amongst you, you will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, you will vanquish a thousand of them” (8:65).

Allah and his messenger want us to fight the Christians and the Jews “until they pay the Jizya [a penalty tax for the non-Muslims living under Islamic rules] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (9:29).

There are thousands more.

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Apr 16, 2019 00:17:40   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Richard94611 wrote:
One man’s “substantiation” always turns out to be wishful thinking and the result of arbitrary faith. It has been that way ever since people began to think theirs was the true religion.


What if one doesn't think one's religion is the "true" religion?

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Apr 16, 2019 00:56:44   #
Nickolai
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Seriously, dude, is this a thoughtfully considered question? The God of Moses, of Abraham, Issac and Jacob is the God of Judaism and Christianity. It is often difficult to determine where you stand on issues. From one post to the next, it is hard to tell what you believe and don't believe, what you agree with and what you don't, who's the pot and who's the kettle.

Obviously you tend to favor a conservative point of view on most issues, but when you post a thumb's up in response to one member's post, then give a thumb's up to a response that is diametrically opposed to that post, it is impossible to determine which one you agree with, or if you agree with either of them. Maybe the thumb's up is simply a means of giving your approval of a person's right to free speech.

You say you believe in God, that you do not deny Him, but it is not clear just who this god is. There are really only two "versions" of God to choose from, Yahweh and Allah. Over half the world's population believe in one or the other. So where are you in this? Which God, or what god, do you believe in?
Seriously, dude, is this a thoughtfully considered... (show quote)





Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump.
I said, ‘Don’t do it!’ He said, ‘Nobody loves me.’
I said, ‘God loves you. Do you believe in God?’ He said, ‘Yes.’
I said, ‘Are you a Christian or a Jew?’ He said, ‘A Christian.’
I said, ‘Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?’ He said, ‘Protestant.’
I said, ‘Me, too! What franchise?’ He said, ‘Baptist.’
I said, ‘Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?’ He said, ‘Northern Baptist.’
I said, ‘Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?’ He said, ‘Northern Conservative Baptist.’
I said, ‘Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?’ He said, ‘Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region.’
I said, ‘Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?’ He said, ‘Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.’
I said, ‘Die, heretic!’ And I pushed him over.

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Apr 16, 2019 01:39:46   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Nickolai wrote:
Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump.
I said, ‘Don’t do it!’ He said, ‘Nobody loves me.’
I said, ‘God loves you. Do you believe in God?’ He said, ‘Yes.’
I said, ‘Are you a Christian or a Jew?’ He said, ‘A Christian.’
I said, ‘Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?’ He said, ‘Protestant.’
I said, ‘Me, too! What franchise?’ He said, ‘Baptist.’
I said, ‘Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?’ He said, ‘Northern Baptist.’
I said, ‘Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?’ He said, ‘Northern Conservative Baptist.’
I said, ‘Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?’ He said, ‘Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region.’
I said, ‘Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?’ He said, ‘Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.’
I said, ‘Die, heretic!’ And I pushed him over.
Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. br ... (show quote)


You truly add nothing to a conversation..

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Apr 16, 2019 01:43:12   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Athiest don't believe in god.
Islam is radical. It is not a religion but an ideology of hatred. It does not represent the same God with Christianity and the Jews.

Command of allah requires Muslims to k**l the infidels or unbelievers. That is their number one duty to allah their god.


The Qur’an tells us: “not to make friendship with Jews and Christians” (5:51), “k**l the disbelievers wherever we find them” (2:191), “murder them and treat them harshly” (9:123), “fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem”

(9:5). The Qur’an demands that we fight the unbelievers, and promises “If there are twenty amongst you, you will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, you will vanquish a thousand of them” (8:65).

Allah and his messenger want us to fight the Christians and the Jews “until they pay the Jizya [a penalty tax for the non-Muslims living under Islamic rules] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (9:29).

There are thousands more.
=================== br Athiest don't believe in go... (show quote)


Didn't you post this earlier?

I could go over it and show you errors... But haven't I done that before?

Hope you are enjoying Lent and preparing for Easter... Much love Radiance...

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Apr 16, 2019 04:26:57   #
Richard94611
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
You truly add nothing to a conversation..


Wrong. I believe he has made a very important point, but you seem unable to grasp the implications of what he has written.

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