Smedley_buzkill

If New Mexico was nuked it would rid the world of a bunch of Californians.

fullspinzoo

Oh, the living humanitarian. The bulls**t is enough to make me puke.

rumitoid

No, you're wrong. New Mexico is the Texas Playground. Oops.

Trooper745 Loc: Carolina

That is the typical l*****t bullsh!t !!!!! Conflating the truly needy with the millions of deadbeats and i*****l i*******ts wasting our welfare dollars, is just another way of telling another l*****t BS lie.

Your posts are still l*****t BS

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

I agree too. I've been one of the disadvantaged, still not swimming in money but I get by, so I understand. The question is do we want a nanny gov't as it has become and is trying to wield more power? Or go back to one that makes sense.

rumitoid

Okay, you brought it up: what about "the truly needy"? Would you help them through government programs, draining a dollar or two from your fat wallet? Many here have said to end all this assistance: do you agree?

Did the Okies create the Dust bowl for government handouts? Those farmers were the core of the American dream and its practice. Adventurous and daring people. God-fearing people dealt a bad hand. What would have happened to them without FDR's social programs? The claim of bottom-feeders is easy when the racial factor is drawn in.

The 2008 financial crisis that almost destroyed America and adversely affected millions of hard-working Americans through no fault of their own: was that concocted to get freebies from the State?

The demise of the Steel and Coal Industries: a plot by families working there to be couch slugs eating Ding Dongs and playing X-box as the no-hassle checks roll in? Open your eyes to the reality of economic conditions.

And how did you come to conclude that there are "millions of deadbeats and i*****l i*******ts wasting our welfare dollars"? Any facts or figures or just vicious and outlandish gossip by the Right?

Trooper745 Loc: Carolina

We have gone over the facts and figures numerous times in this forum. Your actual or feigned ignorance does not negate them.

At the federal, state, and local levels, taxpayers shell out approximately $134.9 billion to cover the costs incurred by the presence of more than 12.5 million i*****l a***ns, and about 4.2 million citizen children of i*****l a***ns. That amounts to a tax burden of approximately $8,075 per i*****l a***n family member and a total of $115,894,597,664.

The total cost of i*****l i*********n to U.S. taxpayers is both staggering and crippling. In 2013, FAIR estimated the total cost to be approximately $113 billion. So, in under four years, the cost has risen nearly $3 billion. This is a disturbing and unsustainable trend.

Improper welfare payments, including fraud [by deadbeats not really eligible for payments], are estimated to be 10.6% of all federal welfare payments made and totaled $77.8 billion in fiscal year 2016. This estimate is based on reports from the Office of Management and Budget, The General Accounting Office, and other federal agencies.

Seven of the Welfare Programs make the OMB list of “High Priority Programs” - programs with improper payments greater than $750 million annually. Total welfare improper payments and fraud of $77.8 billion is an enormous sum greater than the entire budgets of TANF, Child Nutrition, Head Start, Job Training, WIC, Child Care, LIHEAP and the Lifeline programs, combined.

Stop all of that waste, and we can really help the truly needy.

The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island

It’s a pleasure to make your acquaintance, LT.

It’s all about power and freedom. Sadly some so willingly relinquish both. Rumi seems to think that in order to go back, we’d have to repeal amendments 1-20.

The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island

Ok, I was wrong. This should be the end.

Great post, Troop.

rumitoid

Not all of them? Just a mere seven more and I blew it. Am I getting lazy? Maybe it is all the Ding Dongs I ate. Tomorrow the gym.

Wonttakeitanymore

Make it a privately run business venture if u get it it needs to be limited, then pay it forward! Let social security run it they make u pay it back and back and back!

rumitoid

"Stop all of that waste, and we can really help the truly needy." How? Fraud happens everywhere there is money. I am not saying do nothing, only asking how to better secure the system. And we must, and soon.

Your figures show that "improper welfare payments, including fraud [by deadbeats not really eligible for payments], are estimated to be 10.6% of all federal welfare payments made." There were nearly 110 million Americans receiving some form of government assistance. That's right around 35% of the total U.S. population. Let's round it off to 11%. Is the other near 90% truly needy or cagier? The wealthiest country in the world and more than a third need assistance to survive? Curious.

Of course you avoided answering my pointed questions about how economic repercussions can devastate hard-working and honest people. Something most of you on the right avoid mentioning at all costs. No, your rhetoric is all about the c***ts and bottom-feeders, making even the truly needy scum to ignore. The base loves this. Cut, cut, cut. Slash, slash, slash. These blood-suckers need a lesson, right? Pathetic.

Make a better system.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Have you not seen that the more the Left tries to "make a better system" the worse it becomes for everyone?

rumitoid

Yes.

The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island

Try the library instead.