A 2017 study estimated that 3.45 million Muslims were living in the United States. The U.S.-born share of the American Muslim population is considerable (42%). It consists of descendants of Muslim immigrants, converts to Islam (many of them black) and descendants of converts. Not easily contained, legally or otherwise. And many are US citizens: do we suspend their rights? Where does that lead for other groups, even, and perhaps eventually, for Christians in this growing secular society?

What do we do about them? Any practical, concrete solutions or plans to deal with them? A lot of endless ranting about how dangerous they are...and that does nothing. Tempest in a teapot. Why uselessly complain? But that's all that happens on this question. Threads on OPP outlining the threat and terror of nearly fourteen hundred years that Islam has existed and attacked Europe. What does that do? Wail against barbaric Sharia Law? What changes? Whine about Hijabs in Congress? Silly.

Is internment possible? Create ghettos to hold them? How about declaring all of Islam as a terrorist state, the protections of the 1st Amendment not applicable as a religion anymore? Then what? Civil war against them? Will Mexicans get thrown into the mix for good measure to resolve the immigration “problem”? Profiling and surveillance on all Mosques? Create special IDs and data bases for all Muslims? But remember, many are US citizens.

So, what to do? Any ideas? Real ideas! If the danger from Islam is as great as many here expound, present reasonable options to contain or subdue the problem. Or shut up! All you are doing is being xenophobic or r****t or boring otherwise.

This is only my opinion and I claim no special knowledge or expertise on the subject. But it seems to me that we could stop the kowtowing to the Muslims, stop any treating them differently, stop any special treatment of thrm under our laws. Apply the very same separation of religion and state we apply to everyone else, forcing Muslims to accept that following their religion is completely safe in their homes and churches, but NONE of their religious acts can be imposed on anyone else and thst includes the public. So, if a Muslim accepts a job, he/she has no right to demand any breaks other than those available to all workers, so our businesses should not give in to any of their demands for numerous prayer times and spaces during work hours. When they apply for a job, they know the circumstances under which they will be required to work and the work they will be required to do so, they have no right to take a job, then begin denands that everything be changed to suit them. When Muslims are commit crimes, we should make no adjustments becsuse of their religion, their culture, etc. Their lawyers should NOT be allowed to twist our laws to favor them. We could also make a law/policy that: 1, No foreign money may be used in the building or operation of mosques, schools, etc, or as contributions to the campaign of any Muslim running for any office. 2. All Inmans in charge of mosques must be American citizens, no foreigners may serve as Inman in the USA. A third and last idea is a law or policy preventing any discussions of, or materials representing, any specific religion in any USA public school. Any mention of any religion must be limited to the part it played in the history of the world, restricted to history classes, and limited to general facts as applicable to that point in history. There is to be no teaching about any religion. An example--- if a Muslim or India girl in the class wears their traditional headscarf, the only information needed in the classroom is that wearing the headscarf is part of their religion, enough said. But under no circumstances are Muslims to be part of determining curriculum or other materials used in the school or speaking to classrooms about Islam. Keep all details about any religion OUT of schools.

Apparently you are a middle-of-the-road kind of guy. You don't seem to want to shake the trees on either side of the road, see what falls out. Tolerance, reconciliation, even appeasement, seems to be your MO. I have noticed that you have agreed with, or given a to two (or more) comments here that are in direct opposition on an issue. I sense an appeal to the "Can't we all get along" meme. If this is the case, fine, go for it, but there is an extreme gap between Islam's ultimate goal of world domination and the freedom that western civilizations enjoy that cannot, under any circumstances, be bridged.

To be more specific, the Constitution of the United States and Sharia Law are entirely incompatible, they are diametrically opposed, the two systems of government cannot exist together. This link is to a 177 page report on an independent study of Islam: The Threat to America

This study is the result of months of analysis, discussion and drafting by a group of top security policy
experts concerned with the preeminent totalitarian threat of our time: the legal-political-military doctrine known within Islam as “shariah.” It is designed to provide a comprehensive and articulate “second opinion” on the official characterizations and assessments of this threat as put forth by the United States government.

Here is another: MSA: The Investigative Project on Terrorism

The Muslim Student's Association is one of the top 5 most dangerous Muslim Brotherhood front groups working to destroy America from within. Have you heard the term "Stealth Jihad"? Books have been written about it (Two are NYT best sellers). Stealth Jihad refers to methods and tactics radical Muslims employ to subvert our constitution and laws through political activism and court rulings rather than violence. Many, not all, of the chapters of the MSA are radical activists, they use our constitution against us, particularly the 1st amendment rights of freedom of speech and religion.

Muslim Brotherhood and the Muslim Students Association

The first MSA National chapter was formed in 1963 at the campus of University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign (UIUC) by international students. The initial leadership came from Arabic-speaking and Urdu-speaking members, with guidance from students of the Egyptian-based Muslim Brotherhood and Pakistan-based Jamaat-e-Islami Islami movements. A Saudi Arabian charity, the wahhabist Muslim World League, provided early funding for the group. Early goals for the movement included the promotion of "a self-definition that involves initially and fundamentally an Islamic identity of its members, as well as an appropriate Islamic lifestyle while they are in the US.

A 1991 U.S. Muslim Brotherhood memo, which describes its “work in America as a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within,” lists the MSA as “one of our organizations and the organizations of our friends.” Most groups affiliated with the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood grew out of MSA. It is currently listed as a “constituent organization” of the Islamic Society of North America.

The New York Times described the original MSA chapters as “basically little slices of Saudi Arabia.” The group was largely financed from Saudi Arabia and the country was not criticized at events. Chapters discriminated against women, held meetings in Arabic and “advocated theological and political positions derived from radical Islamist organizations.”

In the 1980s, U.S. Muslim Brotherhood official Zaid Naman said “the most important resolution the Brotherhood Group might have taken was who was going to be a member of the MSA’s executive committee.” He said that in the 1960s, the Brotherhood required members to “be active in the general activism in the MSA, a person who attends its general conferences or participating in its executive committees, whether local or central.”

In 1972, Jamal Barzinji was the president of MSA. FBI documents from 1988 reported that he had been identified as a Muslim Brotherhood operative. In 2003, his home was raided because, in the words of U.S. Customs Service Special Agent David Kane, Barzinji “is not only closely associated with PIJ (Palestinian Islamic Jihad), but also with Hamas.” In 2011, it was reported that the Justice Department stopped a planned indictment of Barzinji. Barzinji played a leading role in establishing multiple U.S. Brotherhood entities.

From 1982 to 1983, MSA’s national president was Abdurrahman Alamoudi. He was convicted on terrorism-related charges in 2004 and has admitted to being a secret Muslim Brotherhood operative. He wrote from his prison cell, “I am, I hope, still a member of the Muslim Brotherhood organization in the USA.”

A 1987 FBI memo states: “The leadership of NAIT, [North American Islamic Trust] MSA and other Muslim groups are inter-related, with many leaders and members of NAIT having been identified as supporters of the Islamic Revolution as advocated by the Government of Iran (GOI). Their support of JIHAD (holy war) in the U.S. has been evidenced by the financial and organizational support provided through NAIT from Middle East countries to Muslims residing in the U.S. and Canada.”

The Investigative Project on Terrorism explains, “Through conferences and events, publications, websites and other activities, MSA has disseminated and promoted militant Islamic ideologies on college and university campuses throughout North America.” A 2007 NYPD report listed MSA as a “radicalization incubator.”

There are many examples of MSA chapters booking Islamist speakers. Its members, often top officials, have become engaged in radical and terrorist activity. However, MSA’s large size and decentralization leads to a diversified membership.

Abdel Malik Ali leads ‘pledge of allegiance’ at MSA event: “Jihad is my spirit… I will die to establish Islam”

MSA West? 13th Annual Conference UCLA (January 16 2011)

I've met only one and have any local knowledge of one other. The first was in section 8 housing where I was security. I asked him a question one night just to see what he would say, and he went into a tirade and basically said I was i***tic for believing in Jesus. This same guy had an accident in Atlanta and a man was k**led. He fled the scene. He had an apartment and his wife did also, so he moved in with her and laid low for months. The police came several times looking for him. I'm not saying that all Muslims are like him, but merely that this is my personal experience.
The other experience was a local who had traveled to Jordan to visit his uncle. All his friends and family said he was not violent. But after he came back from Jordan, he went to 2 recruiting stations and k**led 5 men alltogether before the police k**led him. We call the victims the Fallen Five. The Muslim community was silent as I recall, not condemning the actions of this young man. I'm not saying that all Muslims are like this k**ler, but that's my experience of a local Muslim in the news.
So, what to do? Trump wanted to more heavily vett those from known terrorists sponsoring countries. We could ask them to condemn all terrorist activity. From what I understand, the women wear the hijab not as a requirement but as a deterrent against rape. As they will not get raped here, we could ask them to not wear the hijab. ( I know...rape is always a possibility but not likely here). That's a couple of things we could do.