Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

And exactly where is it written that our Lord and Savior is returning to destroy the world? On the contrary, the return of Jesus will usher in a reign of a thousand years of peace. You have been misled, and are misleading others with that statement.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

That is a sensible suggestion.

Since the tactic of some seems to be chopping us into as many aggrieved groups as possible I think our initial response should be to resist rather than embrace.

Mr. Rogers

Preach the gospel of Jesus Christ to them.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

You should listen to the testimony of Kamal Saleem. You're exactly right. Love is the answer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL-h5Pitlxo

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

The Bible says "My people perish for lack of knowledge."

I suggest everyone watch the vid.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Not many. I'd advise against it because Christ was their sacrifice. I'd advise them against giving the Palestinians a homeland in Judea and Samaria too, but they will do both.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Quite right. 2/3 of the world's population (5 billion or so now) will live into the Millennial period. People born during that time might live to see the whole thing. People do not understand and because they don't or won't they think it will be the end.

Mr. Rogers

2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

It's gonna be quite the sight.

Mr. Rogers

Preach the gospel of Jesus Christ to them

Mr. Rogers

2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Apparently you are a middle-of-the-road kind of guy. You don't seem to want to shake the trees on either side of the road, see what falls out. Tolerance, reconciliation, even appeasement, seems to be your MO. I have noticed that you have agreed with, or given a to two (or more) comments here that are in direct opposition on an issue. I sense an appeal to the "Can't we all get along" meme. If this is the case, fine, go for it, but there is an extreme gap between Islam's ultimate goal of world domination and the freedom that western civilizations enjoy that cannot, under any circumstances, be bridged.

To be more specific, the Constitution of the United States and Sharia Law are entirely incompatible, they are diametrically opposed, the two systems of government cannot exist together. This link is to a 177 page report on an independent study of Islam: The Threat to America

This study is the result of months of analysis, discussion and drafting by a group of top security policy
experts concerned with the preeminent totalitarian threat of our time: the legal-political-military doctrine known within Islam as “shariah.” It is designed to provide a comprehensive and articulate “second opinion” on the official characterizations and assessments of this threat as put forth by the United States government.

Here is another: MSA: The Investigative Project on Terrorism

The Muslim Student's Association is one of the top 5 most dangerous Muslim Brotherhood front groups working to destroy America from within. Have you heard the term "Stealth Jihad"? Books have been written about it (Two are NYT best sellers). Stealth Jihad refers to methods and tactics radical Muslims employ to subvert our constitution and laws through political activism and court rulings rather than violence. Many, not all, of the chapters of the MSA are radical activists, they use our constitution against us, particularly the 1st amendment rights of freedom of speech and religion.

Muslim Brotherhood and the Muslim Students Association

The first MSA National chapter was formed in 1963 at the campus of University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign (UIUC) by international students. The initial leadership came from Arabic-speaking and Urdu-speaking members, with guidance from students of the Egyptian-based Muslim Brotherhood and Pakistan-based Jamaat-e-Islami Islami movements. A Saudi Arabian charity, the wahhabist Muslim World League, provided early funding for the group. Early goals for the movement included the promotion of "a self-definition that involves initially and fundamentally an Islamic identity of its members, as well as an appropriate Islamic lifestyle while they are in the US.

A 1991 U.S. Muslim Brotherhood memo, which describes its “work in America as a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within,” lists the MSA as “one of our organizations and the organizations of our friends.” Most groups affiliated with the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood grew out of MSA. It is currently listed as a “constituent organization” of the Islamic Society of North America.

The New York Times described the original MSA chapters as “basically little slices of Saudi Arabia.” The group was largely financed from Saudi Arabia and the country was not criticized at events. Chapters discriminated against women, held meetings in Arabic and “advocated theological and political positions derived from radical Islamist organizations.”

In the 1980s, U.S. Muslim Brotherhood official Zaid Naman said “the most important resolution the Brotherhood Group might have taken was who was going to be a member of the MSA’s executive committee.” He said that in the 1960s, the Brotherhood required members to “be active in the general activism in the MSA, a person who attends its general conferences or participating in its executive committees, whether local or central.”

In 1972, Jamal Barzinji was the president of MSA. FBI documents from 1988 reported that he had been identified as a Muslim Brotherhood operative. In 2003, his home was raided because, in the words of U.S. Customs Service Special Agent David Kane, Barzinji “is not only closely associated with PIJ (Palestinian Islamic Jihad), but also with Hamas.” In 2011, it was reported that the Justice Department stopped a planned indictment of Barzinji. Barzinji played a leading role in establishing multiple U.S. Brotherhood entities.

From 1982 to 1983, MSA’s national president was Abdurrahman Alamoudi. He was convicted on terrorism-related charges in 2004 and has admitted to being a secret Muslim Brotherhood operative. He wrote from his prison cell, “I am, I hope, still a member of the Muslim Brotherhood organization in the USA.”

A 1987 FBI memo states: “The leadership of NAIT, [North American Islamic Trust] MSA and other Muslim groups are inter-related, with many leaders and members of NAIT having been identified as supporters of the Islamic Revolution as advocated by the Government of Iran (GOI). Their support of JIHAD (holy war) in the U.S. has been evidenced by the financial and organizational support provided through NAIT from Middle East countries to Muslims residing in the U.S. and Canada.”

The Investigative Project on Terrorism explains, “Through conferences and events, publications, websites and other activities, MSA has disseminated and promoted militant Islamic ideologies on college and university campuses throughout North America.” A 2007 NYPD report listed MSA as a “radicalization incubator.”

There are many examples of MSA chapters booking Islamist speakers. Its members, often top officials, have become engaged in radical and terrorist activity. However, MSA’s large size and decentralization leads to a diversified membership.

Abdel Malik Ali leads ‘pledge of allegiance’ at MSA event: “Jihad is my spirit… I will die to establish Islam”

MSA West? 13th Annual Conference UCLA (January 16 2011)

Carol Kelly

Probably nil.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

But you repeat yourself...

rumitoid

That is not my belief. That is the thinking of the Dispensationalist. I agree with you. Peter said, “But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.” What did he mean? We look at another verse by him: the “genuineness of your faith—of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire.” Fire purifies to him. This chapter and verse has been misinterpreted to mean destruction.