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Let's try this again; my second attempt. What to do about Muslims in America?
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Apr 13, 2019 15:18:44   #
zillaorange
 
BigMike wrote:
I don't think folks get the emphasis I'm placing on "HAVE TO".

The banks will fail and we commoners will be shown (shown...like the marching of Germans through the murder factories. In fact...these same people were responsible for that, as well) all the horror they have been responsible for. Participated in!

...and they are afraid they would all be torn to pieces. Which will happen.


National Red F**g Act ! Don't like some one rat him out, law enforsement will proceed to remove your firearms !! Worked for Hitler !!!

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Apr 13, 2019 15:37:02   #
Carol Kelly
 
rumitoid wrote:
A 2017 study estimated that 3.45 million Muslims were living in the United States. The U.S.-born share of the American Muslim population is considerable (42%). It consists of descendants of Muslim immigrants, converts to Islam (many of them black) and descendants of converts. Not easily contained, legally or otherwise. And many are US citizens: do we suspend their rights? Where does that lead for other groups, even, and perhaps eventually, for Christians in this growing secular society?

What do we do about them? Any practical, concrete solutions or plans to deal with them? A lot of endless ranting about how dangerous they are...and that does nothing. Tempest in a teapot. Why uselessly complain? But that's all that happens on this question. Threads on OPP outlining the threat and terror of nearly fourteen hundred years that Islam has existed and attacked Europe. What does that do? Wail against barbaric Sharia Law? What changes? Whine about Hijabs in Congress? Silly.

Is internment possible? Create ghettos to hold them? How about declaring all of Islam as a terrorist state, the protections of the 1st Amendment not applicable as a religion anymore? Then what? Civil war against them? Will Mexicans get thrown into the mix for good measure to resolve the immigration “problem”? Profiling and surveillance on all Mosques? Create special IDs and data bases for all Muslims? But remember, many are US citizens.

So, what to do? Any ideas? Real ideas! If the danger from Islam is as great as many here expound, present reasonable options to contain or subdue the problem. Or shut up! All you are doing is being xenophobic or r****t or boring otherwise.
A 2017 study estimated that 3.45 million Muslims w... (show quote)


In the first place Islam IS NOT a religion. In the second place I favor of a huge ghetto in Alaska, but Mexicans are not to be thrown in with them. They’re mostly
Catholic. Even the i******s.

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Apr 13, 2019 15:42:08   #
woodguru
 
debeda wrote:
No idea what to do about Muslims, because there are two separate very different sets. Those that have been here since the late 1940s early 1950s, who immigrated here because they want to be Americans, and refugees imported in the last 10 years.

As far as Mexicans, I know many Mexican immigrants, a couple of whom I'm related to. Mexican people tend to be quite conservative, and our cultures are more alike than different, so you can't really compare the two. Hope all is well with you.


No more than there are two or three "types" of christians, you have the ones that are comfortable with their faith, they don't take it to extremes, and don't need their beliefs jammed down other's throats...

then there are the extremists who think laws should be formed around their beliefs and don't care what others believe or don't believe

then there are the fanatic zealots, the terrorists who defile and destroy the churches of others, who terrorize and k**l those involved with legal women's health centers.

There are more right wing terrorist h**e crimes in this country than there are Muslim terrorist incidents

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Apr 13, 2019 15:47:17   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
zillaorange wrote:
National Red F**g Act ! Don't like some one rat him out, law enforsement will proceed to remove your firearms !! Worked for Hitler !!!


We are a fly in the devil's ointment...one of the reasons his putrid government will only last three and a half years...it's already unsupportable but they'll go through the motions. Oh yeah.

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Apr 13, 2019 15:48:54   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
woodguru wrote:
No more than there are two or three "types" of christians, you have the ones that are comfortable with their faith, they don't take it to extremes, and don't need their beliefs jammed down other's throats...

then there are the extremists who think laws should be formed around their beliefs and don't care what others believe or don't believe

then there are the fanatic zealots, the terrorists who defile and destroy the churches of others, who terrorize and k**l those involved with legal women's health centers.

There are more right wing terrorist h**e crimes in this country than there are Muslim terrorist incidents
No more than there are two or three "types&qu... (show quote)


No propaganda please.

(where is that guy when he's needed? )

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Apr 13, 2019 16:00:43   #
zillaorange
 
woodguru wrote:
No more than there are two or three "types" of christians, you have the ones that are comfortable with their faith, they don't take it to extremes, and don't need their beliefs jammed down other's throats...

then there are the extremists who think laws should be formed around their beliefs and don't care what others believe or don't believe

then there are the fanatic zealots, the terrorists who defile and destroy the churches of others, who terrorize and k**l those involved with legal women's health centers.

There are more right wing terrorist h**e crimes in this country than there are Muslim terrorist incidents
No more than there are two or three "types&qu... (show quote)


So you're in favor of the SLAUGHTER of unborn humans & then selling tiny body parts, are you ?

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Apr 13, 2019 16:05:51   #
rumitoid
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Radical Islamists come from all sects, the most populous sects are Sunni, Shiite, and Wahhabi, so it is no surprise that most of the bad guys come from these three.

Pew Global Research polled Muslims around the US, in Europe and in countries throughout the ME The poll centered on determining the level of support for terrorism and radical political efforts to impose Sharia. I don't have the stats at hand, but a surprising number of Muslims who are not involved directly or indirectly with terrorism are luke warm to hot on the idea. The imposition of Sharia rated even higher.

You're not going to be able to weed out the radicals by going after sects. There are peaceful, moderate and radical Muslims in all sects. Moreover, it would be a direct violation of the 1st amendment to pass laws controlling religious beliefs.

In addition, the Muslim Brotherhood has established 28 different associations, societies, and activist groups to operate in the United States. One of these is the Muslim Students Association. The MSA has chapters in 132 American colleges and universities, with chapters in all of the major universities. These are activist groups who hold to Sharia Law and promote it on campus. Interestingly, these Muslim students are seeking degrees in technology, engineering, business, political science, law, and government. There is little doubt that they are learning critical sk**ls with which to turn against us. They are doing so already in courts all over the country.
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You have perfectly outlined the problem with doing anything about Muslims in America. My point was, then why complain about Islam if you have no solutions to stemming its influence and growing threat of power. Too many just rant at how terrible Islam is and their fear of Sharia Law overtaking our justice system, or how it is not really a religion, yet offer zilch, zero, nada on what to about it.

Some here have offered their opinion on practical solutions. Do you have any?

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Apr 13, 2019 16:08:21   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
zillaorange wrote:
So you're in favor of the SLAUGHTER of unborn humans & then selling tiny body parts, are you ?


Yes! So the elites can sip fetal stem cell smoothies and try to be young until 90.

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Apr 13, 2019 16:10:03   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
rumitoid wrote:
You have perfectly outlined the problem with doing anything about Muslims in America. My point was, then why complain about Islam if you have no solutions to stemming its influence and growing threat of power. Too many just rant at how terrible Islam is and their fear of Sharia Law overtaking our justice system, or how it is not really a religion, yet offer zilch, zero, nada on what to about it.

Some here have offered their opinion on practical solutions. Do you have any?


Easy...If you want Sharia, forget it. Go someplace else. Seems easy enough.

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Apr 13, 2019 16:11:07   #
rumitoid
 
zillaorange wrote:
They have to decide: Allegiance to America or allegiance to the Koran. They can't have it both ways. As far as I'm concerned Moslem is a political movement, not a "peaceful" religion. Remember they said they would defeat U. S. from the inside !!! Just take a gander at Congress !!! REMEMBER 9?1 !!! As per omar,' Some people did something".2,779 Americans died in that "something" she refers to !!!


Yes, and the outrage at her statement is justified. But how do we enforce "Allegiance to America"? Should we institute a loyalty oath?

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Apr 13, 2019 16:13:37   #
rumitoid
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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I saw Obama swore in Oath of Allegiance on Koran in his right hand.


Former President Barack Obama used two Bibles when he was sworn into office for his second term.

One had belonged to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and the other had been used by Abraham Lincoln at his swearing-in ceremony in 1861. Obama also had used the Lincoln Bible for his first inauguration in 2009.

But a meme is circulating online with a picture of Obama taking the oath of office in 2013 with this text: “For those who don’t believe Obama is a Muslim, the red book is the Quran.”

That’s wrong. It’s not a Quran. The book bound with a red velvet cover is the Lincoln Bible. That’s the same one President Donald Trump used for his 2017 inauguration, along with a Bible that his mother had given him. https://www.factcheck.org/2018/12/meme-confuses-lincolns-bible-with-a-quran/

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Apr 13, 2019 16:16:56   #
rumitoid
 
zillaorange wrote:
As per Canuskus Deploracus : !.) Greater surveilance , @.) Stricter sentencing for "religious", crimes. ( Use the Death Sentence, My addition ) Zero tolerance for activities that support/ promote jihad !


We are a nation of laws. Special surveillance and sentencing for Muslims must be first legislated in Congress. Our internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII was ruled unconstitutional.

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Apr 13, 2019 16:19:44   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
Nothing will be done about islam even though people have some good solutions.

Islam is destroying Europe and the same thing will happen here as people comtinually apologize for the religion. The FBI has cut ties with CAIR recognizing its ties to terrorism yet people apologize for Omar supporting it.

Islam is one of Satan’s great triumphs but his time is short. I have no fear of it because it won’t triumph though it may cause much damage along the way. Our country is in for some
chaotic times.
Nothing will be done about islam even though peopl... (show quote)


That seems the only conclusion we are, unfortunately, left with at this time.

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Apr 13, 2019 16:20:21   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
rumitoid wrote:
We are a nation of laws. Special surveillance and sentencing for Muslims must be first legislated in Congress. Our internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII was ruled unconstitutional.


Back to my original answer...nothing...unless they try to make Sharia enclaves like Europe.

That's where the line has to be.

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Apr 13, 2019 16:20:36   #
rumitoid
 
jimpack123 wrote:
The FBI can and should watch all terror groups whether they are Muslim's, W***e s*********t's or any cartels. You can't just watch one group. History teaches that in WW2 the Japs were put in containment camps. If we do this again are we not going against our own laws. and therefore becoming a terrorist nation ourself's in the process?


Yes, and there's the rub, jim.

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