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Let's try this again; my second attempt. What to do about Muslims in America?
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Apr 13, 2019 16:21:50   #
rumitoid
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Don't let them in, you won't have to 'do' anything.


There are almost 5 million Muslims presently in America: what to do about them is the question.

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Apr 13, 2019 16:22:43   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
rumitoid wrote:
There are almost 5 million Muslims presently in America: what to do about them is the question.


Back to my original answer...nothing...unless they try to make Sharia enclaves like Europe.

That's where the line has to be.

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Apr 13, 2019 16:24:23   #
rumitoid
 
BigMike wrote:
There are about as many good Muslims as there are good Christians is my experience working and living with them in Dutch Harbor.

Most of 'em ain't hot for jihad. I have a Somali friend who got married a couple of years ago. He's the 2nd youngest of 12. I asked him if he was ready for 8 or 9 kids and he looks at me in horror and says "Two is fine! I am very westernized!" We had a good laugh.

The biggest problem I have with Americans not working those jobs is about the money that gets sent out of the country, not so much that the guy sorting fish next to me is a jihadi and with my background...if there's something not right about someone I notice.

ISIS was a mercenary group as was Al Qaeda, paid for by money stolen from US by the t*****rs Bush, Klinton, Bush, Obama and the would be queen along with the bureaucrats that have sold their offices to politics.

Having said that, the Koran tells Muslims they are more or less obligated to reoccupy any territory they occupied in the past, which is a wonderful political tool for their corrupt leaders and an avenue for the Rothschild Cabal to get to their needed world war if central banking and the source of their power is to continue.
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Egads, Mike!

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Apr 13, 2019 16:26:21   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
jimpack123 wrote:
lol

Except it's not funny.

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Apr 13, 2019 16:28:11   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
woodguru wrote:
No more than there are two or three "types" of christians, you have the ones that are comfortable with their faith, they don't take it to extremes, and don't need their beliefs jammed down other's throats...

then there are the extremists who think laws should be formed around their beliefs and don't care what others believe or don't believe

then there are the fanatic zealots, the terrorists who defile and destroy the churches of others, who terrorize and k**l those involved with legal women's health centers.

There are more right wing terrorist h**e crimes in this country than there are Muslim terrorist incidents
No more than there are two or three "types&qu... (show quote)


amen

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Apr 13, 2019 16:28:56   #
rumitoid
 
redpill wrote:
I disagree... SOMETHING will be done. However, I agree that our country is in for some chaotic times. People on all sides will die because there is a WAR going on, we just have not come to grips with it yet. Currently, the groundwork is being set; first a Muslim President was elected and established a network inside government. Now the people are electing Muslims to office. Those that h**e the America they invaded will push from the inside to change it to their beliefs. We are the FROGS that have been placed in cold water on the stove. We will die when the heat gets too hot because we are being lulled by the slow attack on us.

Perhaps ALL people in this country should be required to take a lie detector test while saying ..." I pledge allegiance to the f**g of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." Those failing would be vetted. They could either be put on a watch list and where they could petition to be removed; or certified as True Red/White/&Blue Americans.

lol.. Don't elect me for any responsible position... I can get radical at times. Oh, the test would be given in English. Until they could understand, they would remain an alien living in the country. This silliness could go on and on... issue special sun glasses that reveal the "OBEY" signs...
I disagree... SOMETHING will be done. However, I ... (show quote)


Good points. Perhaps for Islam nation's immigrants we can insert a phrase or two to sear by that allows us to deport them for any associations with extremist groups or activities. Just suspect behavior, no legal entanglements.

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Apr 13, 2019 16:31:20   #
rumitoid
 
jimpack123 wrote:
for the FBI and Law enforcement to do there job it must be done legally. There will always be crooks just like at Washington DC lol


Lol, too true.

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Apr 13, 2019 16:39:20   #
rumitoid
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
I liked a few of your ideas, like "Will Mexicans get thrown into the mix for good measure to resolve the immigration “problem”? Profiling and surveillance on all Mosques? Create special IDs and data bases for all Muslims? But remember, many are US citizens." I take it you don't think the border crisis is one? Ever been there? You don't have to go to Texas or Arizona, many states are getting them in there. MS 13 is trying to get a foothold in Massachusetts. Profiling and surveilling mosques? We already are. In many cases they've shown to store weapons and intel. Islam has been at war with the rest of the world since before AD. Uh US citizens? They are thugs nothing more. How are criminals treated? Want a link? Understanding The Threat. If you want my honest remedy for all of this-scorched earth! Yes, I know there is no return for whoever is caught in it, who cares.
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My point, lieutenant, sir, is that wh**ever we do to resolve this problem does not damage our Republic of Liberty, such as the internment of Japanese-Americans, citizens, during WWII. Maybe that action actually did save American lives; out of over 110,000 interned, it seems likely at least a few may have sided with their native country and acted accordingly to hurt our troops. But was that gross violation of our Constitution worth it?

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Apr 13, 2019 16:42:32   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
rumitoid wrote:
Egads, Mike!


It's what's happening...been happening.

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Apr 13, 2019 16:43:34   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
rumitoid wrote:
Good points. Perhaps for Islam nation's immigrants we can insert a phrase or two to sear by that allows us to deport them for any associations with extremist groups or activities. Just suspect behavior, no legal entanglements.


No more ignoring red f**gs might help.

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Apr 13, 2019 16:44:23   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
rumitoid wrote:
My point, lieutenant, sir, is that wh**ever we do to resolve this problem does not damage our Republic of Liberty, such as the internment of Japanese-Americans, citizens, during WWII. Maybe that action actually did save American lives; out of over 110,000 interned, it seems likely at least a few may have sided with their native country and acted accordingly to hurt our troops. But was that gross violation of our Constitution worth it?


Agreed.

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Apr 13, 2019 16:45:09   #
rumitoid
 
zillaorange wrote:
That used to be the way, probable cause, judge signs off on a search warrant, police ring the bell show you the warrant & they proceed to do their job. That's the way it used to be. Then came the HORROH of 9/11,within hours dubwa signed off on the "Patriot Act" ! Who the hell could go through SO MUCH (il)legal mumbo jumbo in hours ? The "Patriot Act" is the biggest assault on the Constitution in our life times, our parent's lives, even grand parent lives ???!!! America is in DEEP TROUBLE !!!
That used to be the way, probable cause, judge sig... (show quote)


Thoroughly agree! That was the way of fear--always wrong. The absurdity of it is astonishing: suspend our rights to protect them. Huh? They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. ... He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither. Those who would trade in their freedom for their protection deserve neither. How did so many miss that point?

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Apr 13, 2019 16:46:49   #
maryjane
 
rumitoid wrote:
Thanks, Kyle, great post. And I am well. Had a great workup today and seem on the mend.

I have grown less apt to defend Islam. Yes, I still feel that many, maybe most, could be peaceful and no threat, yet history and their tenets and Sharia Law have me questioning my position. Maybe it has more to do with the fact that there appears to be no viable action to contain or subdue the possible threat. Let them be and hope, or outright war. Or other actions not so harsh, yet I cannot think of any.

'Where would we be without our "being xenophobic or r****t or boring."' Funny.
Thanks, Kyle, great post. And I am well. Had a gre... (show quote)


This is only my opinion and I claim no special knowledge or expertise on the subject. But it seems to me that we could stop the kowtowing to the Muslims, stop any treating them differently, stop any special treatment of thrm under our laws. Apply the very same separation of religion and state we apply to everyone else, forcing Muslims to accept that following their religion is completely safe in their homes and churches, but NONE of their religious acts can be imposed on anyone else and thst includes the public. So, if a Muslim accepts a job, he/she has no right to demand any breaks other than those available to all workers, so our businesses should not give in to any of their demands for numerous prayer times and spaces during work hours. When they apply for a job, they know the circumstances under which they will be required to work and the work they will be required to do so, they have no right to take a job, then begin denands that everything be changed to suit them. When Muslims are commit crimes, we should make no adjustments becsuse of their religion, their culture, etc. Their lawyers should NOT be allowed to twist our laws to favor them. We could also make a law/policy that: 1, No foreign money may be used in the building or operation of mosques, schools, etc, or as contributions to the campaign of any Muslim running for any office. 2. All Inmans in charge of mosques must be American citizens, no foreigners may serve as Inman in the USA. A third and last idea is a law or policy preventing any discussions of, or materials representing, any specific religion in any USA public school. Any mention of any religion must be limited to the part it played in the history of the world, restricted to history classes, and limited to general facts as applicable to that point in history. There is to be no teaching about any religion. An example--- if a Muslim or India girl in the class wears their traditional headscarf, the only information needed in the classroom is that wearing the headscarf is part of their religion, enough said. But under no circumstances are Muslims to be part of determining curriculum or other materials used in the school or speaking to classrooms about Islam. Keep all details about any religion OUT of schools.

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Apr 13, 2019 16:48:46   #
rumitoid
 
woodguru wrote:
No more than there are two or three "types" of christians, you have the ones that are comfortable with their faith, they don't take it to extremes, and don't need their beliefs jammed down other's throats...

then there are the extremists who think laws should be formed around their beliefs and don't care what others believe or don't believe

then there are the fanatic zealots, the terrorists who defile and destroy the churches of others, who terrorize and k**l those involved with legal women's health centers.

There are more right wing terrorist h**e crimes in this country than there are Muslim terrorist incidents
No more than there are two or three "types&qu... (show quote)


A certain sect of Dispensationalist want Israel to occupy the Temple to hasten the return of Christ to destroy the world. Talk about a Grimm Fairy-tale.

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Apr 13, 2019 16:50:19   #
rumitoid
 
BigMike wrote:
Easy...If you want Sharia, forget it. Go someplace else. Seems easy enough.


Too funny. Did you even bother to read what I said?

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