bggamers Loc: georgia

possible not a fact I like things that are proven evolution is sciences way of trying to explain the beginning because they are trying like some people to eliminate GOD from the big picture. personal opinion

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Ok.. Good disclaimer..

Theory refers to an idea...

Even after it is proven it is still a theory....

Take the Theory of Relativity for example...

Evolution in no way attempts yo explain the 'beginning'...

Hope all is well

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Nope, the universe was not created in 7 days "a few thousand years ago", and the creation account in Genesis does not say it was.

The Hebrew language is difficult to t***slate into English, and although the t***slations are accurate and are true to the Biblical messages, one cannot read the English versions and simply take the passage at face value. A good study Bible will include Strong's Hebrew and Greek dictionaries and every word of substance in the Bible has a number attached that references the dictionary definitions.

In English t***slations of Genesis, one must note the subtle but important differences in meaning between the words "heaven" and "earth" which are not capitalized in verses 1 and 2 and the capitalized "Heaven" in verse 8 and "Earth" in verse 10. "earth" and "Earth" in the context of t***slation from Hebrew have two different meanings. "earth" refers to matter, or the physical elements, nothing specific, "Earth" is a proper noun that identifies a specific object, in this case, our planet.

In Verse 9, we see the appearance of "dry land", which God named "Earth". Up until then, "the earth was without form, and void."

Put simply, time as we measure it is based on the rotation of Earth on its axis, 24 hours is one day. Since the Earth does not appear as a singular body until the 10th verse of Genesis, it is not possible to determine how much time passed between the moment of creation in Verse 1 and the appearance of Earth in verse 10. No one knows the mind of God, no one can. What is time in mind of a transcendent being? What is a "Day" on God's clock? Could be a billion years.

Bible scholars have studied this specific issue in depth, and Oxford University mathematics professor, John Lennox, wrote a book on the subject titled Seven Days that Divide the World: The Beginning According to Genesis and Science.

in verse 11,12, 21 and 25, the Bible describes biogenesis, the principle that living organisms develop only from other living organisms. Evolutionist theories have failed miserably in attempting to explain that life emerged from inorganic, or dead, matter. Scientists have tried that and the results were always the same, no cigar.

I am always amused when an atheist or an anti-religionist or a spiritually barren, godless human being who doesn't have the first clue to what the Bible is telling us is happy as a pig in s**t telling us it is "abject lunacy" to believe what the Bible is telling us.

Rose42

Its a human construct so saying it would exist without humans is not logical.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

We are definitely working with different definitions

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I was an Atheist in my younger years... Genesis was a real eye opener to me...
Excellent post

bggamers Loc: georgia

ALL is well just feeling my age this last week

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Hope the weather is picking up...

We finally got a sunny day...

Lots of slush though

bggamers Loc: georgia

This is the time I am really glad it doesn't snow here often Rain oh yea no snow this year

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Florida?

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Good writing---You either believe if you don't. the militant atheist is as bad as the militant Vegan. Both are self righteous bigots toward those who believe in doing their own thing. Keep doin your own thing Blade.

bggamers Loc: georgia

GEORGIA 40 miles from Atlanta

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I flew through Atlanta once...
Had a hell of a time getting directions to my terminal... The woman I was speaking to had an accent that was just incomprehensible... Wrote perfect directions though...

My Godmother has a daughter down your way... Is it true that the police are regularly assaulting B****s? It is her favorite rant.. That her Grandkids (her daughter married a Black fellow) can't leave the house for fear of the police... Just wondering....

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Agreed!!!

TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA

Hey Rose,

Have you ever been amazed at seeing a cat land on all fours when it seemed almost impossible to do so?

I'm sure that cats don't have a clue about the human definition of the word "gravity".

Now, since "gravity," like the word "science," is a "human construct," would that mean the cat was free from the law of gravity and that its reflex action was purely an instinct? Or would/could we say that the cat, instinctively operates within the law of gravity? The latter, right?

So with science, as with gravity, just because we humans can put a label on it, doesn't mean that humans either created it or have a monopoly on its use and practice. "Science" by definition seeks to be objective; I would go so far as saying it is the pursuit of eliminating subjectivity as much as possible.

Often times humans, in their p***e, assume that what they "discover," through the process of scientific examination, is all the same as them creating what they discovered. This is false. The fact is, humans don't literally create anything, through their amazing imagination, they manipulate or reconstruct from material, and even ideas, that already exist.

Ever hear the one about the scientist and God?:

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God was sitting in heaven one day when a scientist said to Him, “God, we don’t need you anymore. Science has finally figured out a way to create life out of nothing – in other words, we can now do what you did in the beginning.”

“Oh, is that so? Explain…” replies God. “Well,” says the scientist, “we can take dirt and form it into the likeness of you and breathe life into it, thus creating man.”

“Well, that’s very interesting… show Me.”

So the scientist bends down to the earth and starts to mold the soil into the shape of a man. “No, no, no…” interrupts God, “Get your own dirt.”
~~~


Mankind discovers, mankind does not create. Humanism attempts to give humanity credit for that which they do not deserve. This p***e of humanity, which humanists extol, in reality, is the root cause of all humanity's ills. P***e in humanity, in one form or another, is certainly the reason why most humans refuse to acknowledge God.

This is probably the fundamental difference between people of faith in God and humanists whose faith is in mankind. Both are "religious", the difference being that humanists usually don't admit that the god they recognize is humanity itself. Humanists also don't usually admit that their cultures and practices are an expression of their "deification" of humanity (in other words, their form of religious practice). This is self-deception, meaning humanism at its core is a big fat lie!

This also explains why it is important for some of us to point out why it is an error to claim that because humanity named or discovered something, humanity created it or has a monopoly on it. That is simply false.

Have a blessed day!