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Mar 24, 2019 12:05:01   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
How often are one's choice of words attacked rather than one's argument?

It's so much easier to win an argument when you can shift the goalposts at will. Can't refute the logic? No problem, take exception to the way it was presented. Ta-Da! You win!

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Mar 24, 2019 12:09:36   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
So you are not going to join me in derailing my thread with our witty banter

Makes me want to "hit the sack"...

Night Slat...

Don't be so sensitive and easily offended.

Rest well, CD.

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Mar 24, 2019 12:21:01   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
slatten49 wrote:
Don't be so sensitive and easily offended.

Rest well, CD.


Mr. Slat..why the picture of the mean face?

That in itself isn't P.C.😎

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Mar 24, 2019 12:37:59   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
byronglimish wrote:
Mr. Slat..why the picture of the mean face?

That in itself isn't P.C.😎

I don't see it as looking "mean." I was caught off-guard at the computer and not smiling.

My kids say I am serious much of the time...but, not angry or mean.

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Mar 24, 2019 12:50:13   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
How many times has one been told that such and such a term is rude, or demeaning, or triggering?

How often are one's choice of words attacked rather than one's argument?

How can the actions of one group be acceptable whereas the same actions from another group are considered bigoted or biased?

I have no trouble admitting that the concept of PC has escaped me... I am constantly corrected by both friends and family whenever I visit home... "Man, you can't say that anymore" or "Son, that's not acceptable talk these days"...

So I ask my fellow OPP members...

What is "Political Correctness"?

How and when should it be employed?

How has it improved our society?

My thanks to all members...
How many times has one been told that such and suc... (show quote)


Look no further than its original purpose:

“The notion of political correctness came into use among C*******ts in the 1930s as a semi-humorous reminder that the Party’s interest is to be treated as a reality that ranks above reality itself. Because all progressives, C*******ts included, claim to be about creating new human realities, they are perpetually at war against nature’s laws and limits. But since reality does not yield, progressives end up pretending that they themselves embody those new realities. Hence, any progressive movement’s nominal goal eventually ends up being subordinated to the urgent, all-important question of the movement’s own power. Because that power is insecure as long as others are able to question the t***h of what the progressives say about themselves and the world, progressive movements end up struggling not so much to create the promised new realities as to force people to speak and act as if these were real: as if what is correct politically—i.e., what thoughts serve the party’s interest—were correct factually.” https://www.claremont.org/crb/article/the-rise-of-political-correctness/

So, in my estimation, “political correctness” is the left’s way of redefining moral values to suit their purposes, particularly when their moral values run contrary to established, tried and proven moral values. They do this by controlling ideas, which are symbolized by words. They can’t endure true, honest, raw and unfettered free speech, so they have to control the words we use in order to control the thoughts we are able to express, thus attempting to funnel our minds into their way of thinking. In other words, mind control.

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Mar 24, 2019 12:56:03   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
slatten49 wrote:
I don't see it as looking "mean." I was caught off-guard at the computer and not smiling.

My kids say I am serious much of the time...but, not angry or mean.


I do believe that you aren't angry.

Just thought I'd say hi.

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Mar 24, 2019 13:33:33   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
slatten49 wrote:
I don't see it as looking "mean." I was caught off-guard at the computer and not smiling.

My kids say I am serious much of the time...but, not angry or mean.

Yeah, definitely not 'politically correct'. Larry Likey!

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Mar 24, 2019 15:33:33   #
rumitoid
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
How many times has one been told that such and such a term is rude, or demeaning, or triggering?

How often are one's choice of words attacked rather than one's argument?

How can the actions of one group be acceptable whereas the same actions from another group are considered bigoted or biased?

I have no trouble admitting that the concept of PC has escaped me... I am constantly corrected by both friends and family whenever I visit home... "Man, you can't say that anymore" or "Son, that's not acceptable talk these days"...

So I ask my fellow OPP members...

What is "Political Correctness"?

How and when should it be employed?

How has it improved our society?

My thanks to all members...
How many times has one been told that such and suc... (show quote)


Political correctness is to be mindful and respectful of the sensitivities and differences of those we speak to, tact and diplomacy. Anything more or less is not Political Correctness but can be thought of as some form of intolerance or hostility.

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Mar 24, 2019 15:53:09   #
Rose42
 
A very non-pc answer -

"Giving up your own opinion to please a--holes."

Excuse my language.

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Mar 24, 2019 16:13:38   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
A very non-pc answer -

"Giving up your own opinion to please a--holes."

Excuse my language.


Being PC is not giving up one's opinion; it is being civil and respectful in presenting an opinion. Trump thinks he should be able to call women fat pigs, dogs, slobs and d********g animals without the PC crowd crying. After being challenged about those comments he made on Twitter by Fox News Host, Megyn Kelly, Trump responded, "I think the big problem in this country has is being politically correct. I've been...challenged by so many people and I don't frankly have time for total political correctness."

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Mar 24, 2019 16:18:48   #
TommyRadd Loc: Midwest USA
 
rumitoid wrote:
Political correctness is to be mindful and respectful of the sensitivities and differences of those we speak to, tact and diplomacy. Anything more or less is not Political Correctness but can be thought of as some form of intolerance or hostility.


...that just happened to be invented by c*******ts. Yeah, right.

How come most if not all of the PC issues tend to support l*****t's newspeak morals?

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Mar 24, 2019 16:23:17   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Being PC is not giving up one's opinion; it is being civil and respectful in presenting an opinion. Trump thinks he should be able to call women fat pigs, dogs, slobs and d********g animals without the PC crowd crying. After being challenged about those comments he made on Twitter by Fox News Host, Megyn Kelly, Trump responded, "I think the big problem in this country has is being politically correct. I've been...challenged by so many people and I don't frankly have time for total political correctness."
Being PC is not giving up one's opinion; it is bei... (show quote)


PC is an invention designed to control speech.

Being civil and respectful is called...being civil and respectful.

The PC crowd is irrelevant because PC is irrelevant. If any politician or anyone else wants to use disrespectful language they should be called on it.

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Mar 24, 2019 16:28:12   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
rumitoid wrote:
Being PC is not giving up one's opinion; it is being civil and respectful in presenting an opinion. Trump thinks he should be able to call women fat pigs, dogs, slobs and d********g animals without the PC crowd crying. After being challenged about those comments he made on Twitter by Fox News Host, Megyn Kelly, Trump responded, "I think the big problem in this country has is being politically correct. I've been...challenged by so many people and I don't frankly have time for total political correctness."
Being PC is not giving up one's opinion; it is bei... (show quote)


Political correctness in action:

1. The BBC has dropped the use of the terms Before Christ (BC) and Anno Domini (AD) on one of their programmes and decided that the terms 'Before Common Era' / 'Common Era' are more appropriate

2. The European Parliament introduced proposals to outlaw titles stating marital status such as 'Miss' and 'Mrs' so as not to cause offence. It also meant that 'Madame' and 'Mademoiselle', 'Frau' and 'Fraulein' and 'Senora' and 'Senorita' would be banned.

3. Throughout several US councils and organisations, any terms using the word 'man' as a prefix or suffix have been ruled as not being politically correct. 'Manhole' is now referred to as a 'utility' or 'maintenance' hole.

4. Loveable cartoon rogue Dennis the Menace has been given a politically correct make over. BBC chiefs decided to take away his edge in the remake. Gone are his bombs, catapult, water pistol and pea shooter - and in their place is a simple boyish grin.

5. Spotted Dick - a classic English dessert has been renamed to avoid embarrassment. The traditional pud Spotted Dick has been given the title Spotted Richard, after UK council bosses feared the original name might cause offence.

6. A school in Seattle renamed its Easter eggs 'spring spheres' to avoid causing offence to people who did not celebrate Easter.

7. A UK council has banned the term 'brainstorming' – and replaced it with 'thought showers', as local lawmakers thought the term may offend epileptics.

8. A UK recruiter was stunned when her job advert for 'reliable' and 'hard-working' applicants was rejected by the job centre as it could be offensive to unreliable and lazy people.

9. Gillingham fans had begun to fondly offer celery to their goalkeeper, ‘Big Fat’ Jim Stannard. The club, however, decided that celery could result in health and safety issues inside the ground. As a result, fans were subjected to celery searches with the ultimate sanction for possession of celery allegedly being a life ban.’

10. In 2007, Santa Clauses in Sydney, Australia, were banned from saying 'Ho Ho Ho'. Their employer, the recruitment firm Westaff (that supplies hundreds of Santas across Australia), allegedly told all trainees that 'ho ho ho' could frighten children, and be derogatory to women. Why ? Because 'Ho Ho Ho' is too close to the American (not Australian, mind you) slang for prostitute.

11. Some US schools now have a 'holiday tree' every at Christmas, rather than a Christmas tree.

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Mar 24, 2019 17:21:07   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
Rose42 wrote:
A very non-pc answer -

"Giving up your own opinion to please a--holes."

Excuse my language.

Language excused, and applauded wholeheartedly.
Spot on, Rose.

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Mar 24, 2019 18:30:07   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I am not sure if I should "clang" you for your earlier exchange with Archie or not...

I saw nothing outrageous in your post... But will admit to only comprehending half...

Thanks for the alternative perspective...


Saw nothing outrageous, why if this wasn't chit chat I'd unload a bundle.
Anyhow was Julius Caesar politically incorrect when he wiped out the Republic ?. Yes he was to begin with and then for a year or so after that, no he wasn't, it changes in the form of a pattern of events, sometimes the changes are short lived, that's what Brutus believed, history proved him right and wrong the Empire needs a Figure Head and the Figure Head needs a Republic but the Republic can exist without a Figure Head sometimes.

We once were discussing on OPP Edward Gibbon, maybe he can help us understand where political correctness came from, or maybe it was so vague maybe I only imagined it, political correct, who was telling me that, was it only a criminal cable of voices in my head, is my conscience out to murder them as they feast on the low h*****g fruit of ignorance, what to do?.

Hummmm, the tree will eventually grow out of their reach, meanwhile, - and correct me if I'm wrong, - the Roman Republic was a Greek thing and the Philosopher's of Greece (I'm quoting)

"the philosopher's of Greece deduced their morals from the nature of man, rather than from God. They meditated, however, on the Divine Nature, as a very curious and important speculation; and in the profound inquiry, they disputed the strength and weakness of human understanding. Of the four most celebrated schools, the Stoics and the Platonists endeavoured to reconcile the jarring interests of reason and piety.]

Socrates lived on the edge of political correctness and Platonism was founded by the Socratic era, yet Plato was all for Spartacus the first historical culture to record bromance (correct me if I'm wrong) and Socrates committed suicide to preserve his political correctness which the noble gesture did, noble gesture, due to the fact that he was ordered to recant or be executed as a heretic.

My point is that Socrates preserved his political correctness probably to the end of the human race, but the rigid enforcement of Spartan military procedures that was unequivocally upheld by Plato gave rise to bromance and then the State legislated statutes specifically for the vindication of sexual relationship between men, (I don't know about lesbian relations in Spartacus).

This seems to me like the student wanting to go one better than the teacher, so if that is how it started 2•5 millennia ago it probably means a pattern was established where the culture of conscience will murder the interloper on behalf of political correctness, in his mind only.

Thanks for the reply, I know it's a bit overboard, but I have dreams of walking the plank.



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