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Mar 23, 2019 10:02:26   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
slatten49 wrote:
A constitutional democratic republic is a type of government based on the principles of a constitution in which officials elected by the people represent the people in the legislative and governing processes. A constitutional republic is not a direct democracy in that a mere plurality of the v**ers does not get to control the processes of the government directly.

The United States is an example of a constitutional democratic republic. The government is run according to the principles of an established Constitution, and the people do not pass laws based on a direct majority. Rather, they elect representatives to a legislative body who can then represent their interests but who can only pass laws that adhere to the principles of the Constitution.

One of the main principles of the U.S. Constitution is the division of powers among the three parts of the government, the executive, legislative, and judicial branches, through a system of checks and balances. The executive branch has the power to veto laws passed by the legislative branch that it deems unconstitutional. If challenged by the people, the judicial branch has the power to strike down laws it considers unconstitutional. The legislative branch, however, retains the powers to revise such laws so that it meets the constitutional benchmarks as expressed by other branches, and it also retains the important power of passing new laws.

https://www.reference.com/government-politics/constitutional-democratic-republic-94535bfb08c336da
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Thanks Slatten...

I think we can all work with this definition...

But will wait to see what the others think

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Mar 23, 2019 10:08:45   #
Morgan
 
badbob85037 wrote:
A republic no man or group of men can take the rights of another man. A democracy is mob rule where 2 can take the freedoms of one. They are nothing alike.


This may be true to an extent, but not of a representative democracy.

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Mar 23, 2019 10:12:14   #
Morgan
 
padremike wrote:
A lynch mob is a democracy in action.


A "direct" democracy.

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Mar 23, 2019 10:26:35   #
Morgan
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Thanks Slatten...

I think we can all work with this definition...

But will wait to see what the others think



Eurkea

I finally found the difference between the two, a republic... and a representative democracy, it's all in the details. lol

A representative democracy uses a form of monarchy at its head, such as a prime minister, whereas a republic uses a "President" as head of state.

With that said we are defined as a Constitutional Federal Democratic Republic, or that we are governed by a Democratic Constitutional Federal Republic. Are governing philosophy is democratic... "We the People".
We are a hybrid, our laws are governed by our Republic~enforcing our laws, the Democracy~by the people.

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Mar 23, 2019 10:40:18   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Morgan wrote:
Eurkea

I finally found the difference between the two, a republic... and a representative democracy, it's all in the details. lol

A representative democracy uses a form of monarchy at its head, such as a prime minister, whereas a republic uses a "President" as head of state.

With that said we are defined as a Constitutional Federal Democratic Republic, or that we are governed by a Democratic Constitutional Federal Republic. Are governing philosophy is democratic... "We the People".
We are a hybrid, our laws are governed by our Republic~enforcing our laws, the Democracy~by the people.
Eurkea br br I finally found the difference betw... (show quote)


I quite enjoy my representive democracy... God bless the queen and may her grandson be my next king... Amen

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Mar 23, 2019 10:43:44   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
PeterS wrote:
A Republic is a form of Democracy. If you don't believe me then don't v**e in the next e******n and prove to the world your distaste for Democracies. BTW, it was developed by the Greeks and one of the oldest forms of government we have going...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_republic


There is a distinction. Republic: "A state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives..." Democracy: "A system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

Thus, Our constitution includes the e*******l college to ensure that each individual state, when v****g on Federal Government e******ns for President of all states, ensures that the v**es of each state are fairly represented when rolled up to the total.

This eliminates a very few and very populous states from controlling the outcomes of 50 individual states.

Thus, our country, the United States, is therefore also a constitutional republic. Indeed, the United States might be labeled a constitutional federal representative democracy.

Or more commonly defined by freely educated, not indoctrinated, citizens:
as the federal government composed of three distinct branches: legislative, executive, and judicial, whose powers are vested by the U.S. Constitution in the Congress, the President, and the federal courts, respectively.

This ensures that to perform for the people, these branches must focus their work on the best solutions for the people as defined by the limits in the USA Constitution.

There is only Law in the document. Emotions or feel good whims of the day are not acceptable as a means to control outcomes when Law is interpreted. Only facts. And the total citizenry of the USA must understand the differences. I submit that the democrats and the far left are trying to usurp the power of the people by calling for popular v**e of the sum of all v****g states to be the new norm.

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Mar 23, 2019 10:46:02   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
PeterS wrote:
A Republic is a form of Democracy.


That is true A Republic is a form of Democracy , however in a Democracy mob rule can be front and foremost with the majority having the final say be it good or bad !

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Mar 23, 2019 11:37:53   #
Morgan
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I quite enjoy my representive democracy... God bless the queen and may her grandson be my next king... Amen


She must be the longest living matriarch by now, how does she do it??? She doesn't keep young people in the tower or dungeon where she extracts blood from does she? LOL

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Mar 23, 2019 11:40:11   #
PeterS
 
slatten49 wrote:
A constitutional democratic republic is a type of government based on the principles of a constitution in which officials elected by the people represent the people in the legislative and governing processes. A constitutional republic is not a direct democracy in that a mere plurality of the v**ers does not get to control the processes of the government directly.

The United States is an example of a constitutional democratic republic. The government is run according to the principles of an established Constitution, and the people do not pass laws based on a direct majority. Rather, they elect representatives to a legislative body who can then represent their interests but who can only pass laws that adhere to the principles of the Constitution.

One of the main principles of the U.S. Constitution is the division of powers among the three parts of the government, the executive, legislative, and judicial branches, through a system of checks and balances. The executive branch has the power to veto laws passed by the legislative branch that it deems unconstitutional. If challenged by the people, the judicial branch has the power to strike down laws it considers unconstitutional. The legislative branch, however, retains the powers to revise such laws so that it meets the constitutional benchmarks as expressed by other branches, and it also retains the important power of passing new laws.

https://www.reference.com/government-politics/constitutional-democratic-republic-94535bfb08c336da
A constitutional democratic republic is a type of ... (show quote)



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Mar 23, 2019 11:48:16   #
PeterS
 
CodyCoonhound wrote:
There is a distinction. Republic: "A state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives..." Democracy: "A system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

Thus, Our constitution includes the e*******l college to ensure that each individual state, when v****g on Federal Government e******ns for President of all states, ensures that the v**es of each state are fairly represented when rolled up to the total.

This eliminates a very few and very populous states from controlling the outcomes of 50 individual states.

Thus, our country, the United States, is therefore also a constitutional republic. Indeed, the United States might be labeled a constitutional federal representative democracy.

Or more commonly defined by freely educated, not indoctrinated, citizens:
as the federal government composed of three distinct branches: legislative, executive, and judicial, whose powers are vested by the U.S. Constitution in the Congress, the President, and the federal courts, respectively.

This ensures that to perform for the people, these branches must focus their work on the best solutions for the people as defined by the limits in the USA Constitution.

There is only Law in the document. Emotions or feel good whims of the day are not acceptable as a means to control outcomes when Law is interpreted. Only facts. And the total citizenry of the USA must understand the differences. I submit that the Democrats and the far left are trying to usurp the power of the people by calling for a popular v**e of the sum of all v****g states to be the new norm.
There is a distinction. Republic: "A state i... (show quote)

Oh, come now. Republicans are indoctrinated by Fox News--in fact, the viewers of Fox News insist on it else they won't watch. And with the presidency, we are talking about one aspect of government though through it is the majority of the e*******l college that elects the president. The Senate and House are elected by a simple majority and it takes the majority of the Senate for appointments including the judiciary. In all aspects, we are talking about the principles of democracy so once again, a Republic is simply the form of democracy we use!

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Mar 23, 2019 11:48:57   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
PeterS wrote:


Key point is we are a conglomeration of 50 states that each individually have their own laws that are not covered by what is given to the federal gov't by the constitution.

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Mar 23, 2019 11:51:04   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Morgan wrote:
She must be the longest living matriarch by now, how does she do it??? She doesn't keep young people in the tower or dungeon where she extracts blood from does she? LOL


Good habits.. And a great heart...

I never joke about the queen...

But Charles is fair game...

I would probably revolt if I had to call him king...

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Mar 23, 2019 11:53:38   #
PeterS
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I quite enjoy my representative democracy... God bless the queen and may her grandson be my next king... Amen

Don't tell anyone but we quite enjoy the Queen too and have even infiltrated with a lady named Megan...

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Mar 23, 2019 11:56:43   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
PeterS wrote:
Don't tell anyone but we quite enjoy the Queen too and have even infiltrated with a lady named Megan...


Huh?

Infiltrated?

What's wrong with Megan?


Edit: I just got this... Use emojis when joking... It's hard to read sarcasm at midnight...

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Mar 23, 2019 11:59:21   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
PeterS wrote:
Oh, come now. Republicans are indoctrinated by Fox News--in fact, the viewers of Fox News insist on it else they won't watch. And with the presidency, we are talking about one aspect of government though through it is the majority of the e*******l college that elects the president. The Senate and House are elected by a simple majority and it takes the majority of the Senate for appointments including the judiciary. In all aspects, we are talking about the principles of democracy so once again, a Republic is simply the form of democracy we use!
Oh, come now. Republicans are indoctrinated by Fox... (show quote)


You fail to recognize states rights vs. Federal Gov't rights. Majority rules at the state level on all things in the state's constitution. Then local towns within each state can follow or add in areas not controlled by either federal or state constitutions. The Federalists Papers explains all this. It seems you have never taken the time to study for yourself.

Generally, the rules in the senate require 60 v**es to pass. The equivalent of 30 states. That is much more than the simple majority. They do have rules that the senate leader controls. For example when your former senate leader Reed changed the judge v**es to a simple majority to get some liberal and feel good judges on the SCOTUS and stack some of the district courts in liberal areas.

I find it hard to believe that the democrats keep trying to destroy the constitution and rule by the whims of today. Pay back is a b***h!

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