Seth

Personally, I believe that now every single person involved in initiating the Mueller investigation should be forced to chip in and reimburse the treasury for the taxpayers' millions spent on the special counsel investigation.

emarine

Padre buddy... I think its imprudent to not simply observe & think about what I see going on today... Ever since the Tea party & their take our country back rebels who preached fiscal conservatism under Obama's term , total obstruction from the Republican party with the filibuster & the 2010 citizens united decision funded by Koch to the MAGA campaign by Trump I see a problem... if you include all the Republican gerrymandering I see a plan for a one party government... I do believe much of the divide we're seeing started with the simple fact America was just not ready for a Black President with a Muslim name... seems this country started dividing at the 2000 e******n from the Florida v**e issue maybe / maybe not... either way Padre I do not have any party affiliation & have not since the war in Iraq started... I was a moderate Republican previously & believe in a check & balanced system of the Fed Gov... looking at both the left/right divide from the center allows somewhat more of an unbiased view where the trivial party propaganda has less influence on my reasoning … my problem with Trump who I v**ed for comes from several issues... first off are basic character flaws...I know no one is perfect but Trump was way too many bad personal issues that run opposite of my personal morality starting with honor... take McCain as an example... one had honor & one has no concept of honor... to cut this short Trump was going to "drain the swamp"... the swamp in reality consists of the wealthy Plutocracy in which citizens united opened the flood gates to allow all the Fortune 500 swamp critters in … Trump has always wanted into club Plutocrat & now has his chance... just scrutinize his policy's to date without all the propaganda... starting with tax cuts & Trickle down...

emarine

sure thing... but what about the farm bill welfare to the tune of 12 billion to our soy farmers that due to bad policy force tax payers to cover it?... Muller seems like drops in a bucket to me...

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Agricultural subsidies have been used for years.

What dwarfs the 12 billion used for our precious farmers?


The untold billions on the potential v**ers for the left, illegally crossing into our sovereign nation.

The estimates vary, but around 60 to 80 billion.

People who are against the wall in specific areas like to spew that the drugs come in thru ports of entry.

But most of the i******s who come in utilize our soft areas needing the wall, fence, barrier, obstacle, wh**ever the trend word is this week.

This actual unknown billions, doesn't include the massive illegal drugs burden.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

I wouldn't even know where to begin to tear down the meathouse of your ridiculous comments. There is no neutral ground for us. For example, your "Tea Party Rebels" were mostly post middle age traditional Americans who were very orderly and picked up after themselves as compared to Progressives who left protest areas completely trashed. Lest we forget how Obama's weaponized IRS savaged the Tea Party. Then there's John McCain who the schizophrenic Left h**ed until McCain attacked Trump and k**led the v**e to abolish Obamacare; a petty vindictive act that showed what a little man McCain really was.

The only plan for a one party government from my observation clearly points to Progressives. Their loose v***r r**********n policy, their allowing i*****l a***ns to v**e in state e******ns, their intentional obstructing Trump from securing the border because the Progressive concept of immigration reform includes a pathway to citizenship and more brown v**es. The latest figures of criminal i*****l a***ns currently residing within our borders is 25 million 900 thousand. Lowering the v****g age to 16, knowing the majority of these poor little propagandized dip s**ts will v**e for free stuff and socialism.

The Swamp is the subversive deep state that Obama created which should be totally exterminated. The entire Trump Russia Collusion effort shows how Obama's weaponized and corrupt DOJ had Obama's people at the highest level prepared to destroy Trump and they won't even slow down now. Their behavior will destroy their 2020 opportunities. Into the crapper where progressives belong.

That's enough for now. Sufficient to say I disagree with you.

emarine

My personal policy on i******s may lean further right they even yours... I have no problem deporting them all once... than air dropping them over shark infested waters if they choose to return...

emarine

There is no neutral ground for us.[/quote]... The exact problem with Trump's base... I clearly remember sitting in on local Tea Party meetings... where's the fiscal responsibility now Padre... everything you mention in your post is mostly party propaganda... Trumps increase to the National debt in a strong economy is dangerous to the survival of this country... Trump is a want to be Plutocrat ... koch ownes Trump and maybe Putin too...

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

When I was a wee lad, one of my uncle's lived in Lamont CA.

He had enough raw experience with some of the i******s, that he thought that when you catch "wetbacks" stamp their heads with a two pound hammer.

If caught a second time, really get rough with them.

I personally am for "anything" that works!!

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Monsignor, stop picking your nose, passing gas, making obscene gestures and then claim you're a well informed policy wonk. You guys have thousands of " Trump ism's, Trump is a puppet for......Trump is crooked, Trump is dumb, Trump is......! It's never ending and......never proven! Yet it's indelibly imprinted in your brain bone!

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

All because he is a loyal to the people President.

I believe a big portion of the peanut gallery rhetoric is in all actuality....Jealousy!

Some of these hard core l*****ts claim to be centrists, but they can't step up and admit the the President is amazing.

Obama caught some flack, but not the constant onslaught of howler monkey mentality chasing his every everything.

emarine

Yes another fine example of good ole Trump supporter values... Never considered how Plutocracy works in America have you Padre?... but you buy right into the us VS them BS...

Seth

Apples and oranges. The Mueller investigation was predicated on a Hillary Clinton campaign financed dossier that's already been discredited and anyone with 1/8 of a brain who's been following events knows that it has all been a partisan put-up job by totally unsavory, bitter politicians and corrupted FBI and DOJ officials who, no longer covered by Obama/Clinton, were desperate to muddy the waters. They will be dealt with soon.

The farmer subsidies are propping them up to give them breathing room while the president continues to negotiate a better trade deal.

One was a political hatchet job, the other is part of a process that will help our economy down the line.

Tell me, were you equally concerned with Obama's "too big to fail" bailouts of financial institutions?

emarine

The too big to fail bailout I thought was on Bush in 08, Obama did the second round with the auto makers & had a plan to be reimbursed...Bush just gave it all away to the greedy bastards that caused the issue ... our soy farmers lost a very lucrative business with China that Brazil now provides at a lower price... its been a long time since the dust bowel Seth … hope you enjoy soy burgers buddy...

Seth

Nope, don't eat the stuff. If it doesn't say "moo" before it kicks the bucket, it doesn't end up in my burgers.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Unlike yourself, I don't believe we are a Plutocracy. That's just more Progressive identity politics, divide and conquer, class warfare BS. I know that the people do not elect the president, the States actually elect the President. We elect representatives to the e*******l college and since we are a diverse people who v**e we cannot elect your so called Plutocracy. Did you consider us to be a Plutocracy when Obama and Bill Clinton were president or does this only hold true under Mr. Trump? If Hillary had won would she have brought in a Minimouscracy? No Plutocracy here except in imaginations.