rumitoid

I have a daughter and most of us have children. If they lied, acted like a bully, or did not stand up for a friend in trouble, what do we do? H**e them to make or help them change? No. We lovingly show how what they did is wrong, how their behavior actually hurts themselves and often others. We do not ignore what they did. We do not excuse it. We do not cuddle them. We confront and resolve these issues.

A public figure is somewhat different, especially one holding the highest office in our nation and the image of the Free World; an appointed model for our country's values, principles, ideals, and laws, never mind for the future of Democracy on the planet. Such a person is to rightfully be held to a higher standard. Failing to do so is failing this Republic and worldwide hopes of liberty. Any patriot, anyone who really loves America, is duty bound to hold the president to this higher standard (or some standard of decency) and demand accountability.

Many on the Right calls this true patriotism just the act of "h**ers" and dismisses it, blindly attacks it. How do they possibly excuse their duty to country to maintain, strengthen, and enhance this great nation by refusing, deflecting, and ignoring to challenge the president's confirmed lies and misdeeds and questionable policies, his mad Twitter rants that convict him of low character, and continue to think that they are true Americans?

Common_Sense_Matters

Alternate reality, to them he has done none of the above.

Liberty Tree

Your post is straight from Alinsky's of means and ends number 10. You wrap your true intentions of hating Trump in moral arguments to make it sound good.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Would you call these Dumb Ass "Americans: Patriots??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQO-2fv5mXI

steve66613

So, how did you deal with the lying, double talk, weaponization of the DOJ and tax department, cowardly behavior in front of our allies and enemies, deviancy, and treasonous behavior by your lord O’bama?

We were perplexed by BHO.

Deal with it.

rumitoid

What if the moral arguments are good except that you reject or refuse to believe them for wh**ever reasons? If they are moral arguments, counter them.

rumitoid

I do not care about Dumb Ass Americans; I was talking to you.

Liberty Tree

If they are not truly moral arguments but only a front to cover real intentions they do not need to be countered.

BigJim

They are almost always not attacking his ideas or correcting his lies/misstatements but are personally attacking him. Their false Russian collusion accusations are finally being laid to rest.

rumitoid

As far as I know thanks to your total lack of any pertinent information , sources or facts concerning "the lying, double talk, weaponization of the DOJ and tax department, cowardly behavior in front of our allies and enemies, deviancy, and treasonous behavior by your lord O’bama" it is impossible to comment. Make a case!

rumitoid

Why not? Show the real intentions, if you can, and how those moral arguments fail.

rumitoid

That's the problem. Both Trump and many on the Right take any criticism as attack. What you and others need to do who are so enamored of Trump is to first examine openly what has been said against the president, see if there is any t***h to it, use facts to refute if you can, admit Trump failed or not, and then move on.

IrreverentOne75 Loc: Minnesota

It's interesting that you call for others to present factual, verifiable reports of incidents of immoral or illegal actions when they call for Democrats to be held responsible for their actions. Yet you, in this rambling, pretentious manifest, have done exactly what you claim they do . You cite absolutely no actions taken by our current President that you have deemed to be confirmed lies, misdeeds and questionable policies. You go on to pontificate about what you call Twitter rants that somehow, according to your opinion, convict him of low character. It is, in fact, the duty of all Americans to maintain, strengthen and enhance this great nation and President Trump is doing that while fighting the Progressives in Congress on a daily basis. I hereby challenge you, rumitoid, to post factual, verifiable proof of your claims.

IrreverentOne75 Loc: Minnesota

It can be very difficult to use facts in dealing with people such as yourself who rely entirely on their feelings. I have to wonder why it is that people on the left cannot admit that the country is in better shape today than it has been in years. Lowest unemployment rates across the board, more people in the work force, productivity rate rising, and lower taxes. What do you expect?

steve66613

Thank you for saving a half hour, or so, for me to explain how BHO lied....when and how often. Geez! How many times does this cliche have to be re-hashed?