permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Good advise on the "stupid" word.. I should know that..

I know many on OPP truly want a wall.. I think is a near useless spending of our money.. NO WALL..

while I see your point, I doubt very much that it would ever be true in my particular case..

For security, I want money spent on more effective measures and what would not require an ongoing spending program if conditions change..

tech and staff, more now, in the future if thing go well we can reduce those amount..

a wall, we have to have nearly the same staff and tech to make the wall work, then we have maintenance and now good way to halt that spending.

Sicilianthing

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Agreed both and worse with the Legal Importation of Muslm and legal Scumbags with Visas and etc... taking our jobs... and they never assimilate or leave.

We have uncovered the PlotPloy Trickery to replace us... it is real and now we’re going to turn it on it’s head.

Trump is either Forthcoming or he’s working for one of the 5 Criminal Entities on our land...
Here:
https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-154546-1.html

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Pretty simple as you must know..

with a decline spanning near 20 years, the BP must be doing it right..

as for what the CBP wants, compare the statement they made before and after the orange con man had them for lunch in Washington.. the came out and talked like a bunch of sheep.. changed posted statements that had been correct for years.. what do you think the personally expect from the orange one?

"Tech" does not do it for you?

While you listed most of what I am aware of and can only say more of the same..

No doubt new "tech" is and will be developed near weekly.. these also should be considered..

and the WALL, to be effective the wall will need near the same number of personnel and amount of "tech".

But will have ongoing expense for the foreseeable future..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Your COLA stats are wrong.. based on my own increases, I cked it out and this table is from the SS for all the years..

While the President has nothing to do with these increases, only trump has claimed other wise.. over the years under Obama we were not so bad, not that he had anything to do with it..

but do not let trump claim anything for wh**ever is included these days and certainly put no faith in the figures you posted..


Social Security Cost-Of-Living Adjustments
Year COLA
1975 8.0
1976 6.4
1977 5.9
1978 6.5
1979 9.9
1980 14.3
1981 11.2
1982 7.4
1983 3.5
1984 3.5
1985 3.1
1986 1.3
1987 4.2
1988 4.0
1989 4.7
Year COLA
1990 5.4
1991 3.7
1992 3.0
1993 2.6
1994 2.8
1995 2.6
1996 2.9
1997 2.1
1998 1.3
1999 a 2.5
2000 3.5
2001 2.6
2002 1.4
2003 2.1
2004 2.7
Year COLA
2005 4.1
2006 3.3
2007 2.3
2008 5.8
2009 0.0
2010 0.0
2011 3.6
2012 1.7
2013 1.5
2014 1.7
2015 0.0
2016 0.3
2017 2.0
2018 2.8


https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-social-security-checks-increase-cola-20181011-story.html

ens of millions of Social Security recipients and other retirees will get a 2.8 percent boost in benefits next year as inflation edges higher. It's the biggest increase most retired baby boomers have gotten.

Following a stretch of low inflation, the cost-of-living adjustment, or COLA, for 2019 is the highest in seven years. It amounts to $39 a month for the average retired worker, according to estimates released Thursday by the Social Security Administration.

The COLA affects household budgets for about one in five Americans, including Social Security beneficiaries, disabled veterans and federal retirees. That's about 70 million people, enough to send ripples through the economy.

Unlike most private pensions, Social Security has featured inflation protection since 1975. Beneficiaries also gain from compounding since COLAs become part of their underlying benefit, the base for future cost-of-living increases.

COLAs can be small or zero, as was the case in several recent years. People often blame the president when that happens. However, the White House can't dictate the COLA, which is calculated by nonpolitical experts.

President Donald Trump has repeatedly vowed not to cut Social Security or Medicare. But the government is running $1 trillion deficits, partly as a result of the Republican tax cut bill Trump signed. Mounting deficits will revive pressure to cut Social Security, advocates for the elderly fear.

"The revenue loss in the tax bill contributes to much higher deficits and debt, and that is where the threats begin to come in," said David Certner, policy director for AARP. "Social Security, and in particular the COLAs, have been the target."

Beyond federal budget woes, Social Security faces its own long-term financial problems and won't be able to pay full benefits starting in 2034.

Social Security is financed by a 12.4 percent tax on wages, with half paid by workers and the other half paid by employers. Next year, the maximum amount of earnings subject to the Social Security tax will increase from $128,400 to $132,900.

About 177 million workers pay Social Security taxes. Of those, nearly 12 million workers will pay more in taxes because of the increase in taxable wages, according to the Social Security Administration.

In addition to retirees, other Social Security beneficiaries include disabled workers and surviving spouses and children. Low-income disabled and elderly people receiving Supplemental Security Income also get a COLA.

JoyV

What more effective measures!?!? You keep saying tech. What tech is more effective than a wall? What tech, with its maintenance (in desert conditions), down time, and manning; is more cost effective than a wall with its maintenance?

Once a steel bollard style wall is built, it rarely needs any maintenance, nor is there any down time! As for manning it, both tech and the wall would still require CBP agents to patrol. With both, they can get better intel for where crossings are being attempted, and the added time to get there as the crossers are slowed by the time it takes to breach the wall. Especially human traffickers which are the most despicable border crossers in my opinion!

JoyV

Check the figures. CBP has been apprehending more each month since 2012. It is now well above 70,000 per month. While congress approved funding has been reduced.

What ongoing expenses above what would be needed for added tech? You'd still need CBP to patrol and apprehend. You'd still need detention. You'd still need immigration court and judges. AND you'd need monthly maintenance or upgrades of the additional tech just like of the existing tech which a steel bollard style wall does not need.

JoyV

So IF the COLA were less it would be Trump's fault, but since it is higher it isn't due to Trump. I'm surprised it wasn't credited to Obama.

The deficits were PREDICTED by the left and RINOs to become higher due to the tax cut. This did NOT happen. The deficits are lower and the rate of debt increase has slowed. The predictions were based on jobs remaining static. But when the environment for onshore business is inviting, there are expansions, inshoring, and new start-ups. These, unlike subsidized jobs are not only not paid for by tax revenue, but are often not minimum wage. Especially the more jobs there are beyond job applicants. More jobs and higher wages = more revenue. This isn't enough yet to actually decrease the debt. But if the trend continues there may actually come a time when our nation will no longer be in debt!

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

OK, let us spend the money on personnel and hardware,if you will. If things become better, we can cut the manpower..

Even Hadrian wall needed so much man power they nearly held hands..

The great wall of China wound up using the very people they wanted to exclude to man the wall and actually live in the barracks that China built..

And not to forget, a wall does not even start to cover how most drugs/humans get into this country..

https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-jerseys-largest-port-drug-bust-in-decades-sees-3200-pounds-of-cocaine-worth-77m

New Jersey's largest port drug bust in decades sees 3,200 pounds of cocaine worth $77M

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

What do you think becomes of those supposed 70,000 each month??


currently I think the biggest need is for judges and courts.. Obama was blocked over and over when he tried to appoint judges..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

I am pleased that you see trump fault in something even if it is not true.. nice one...

His gift was not used as he told you it would be,, did not go to new jobs or wages,, went to the very rich and himself...

rate of deficit is higher now then under Obama who had great issues to contend with..

trump latest proposal set a record for spending and cutting domestic programs..

Check it out...


More jobs than applicants; we had that in 2011 in MINN>.

The cash stimulus has nearly worn off.. the only thing that boomed was an additional rise to the stock market. that is now lost a years worth of gain and the sputtering is the usual before a large correction/recession..

Nothing will go as the orange master told you it would, he was once again sell a con..

It is what he does, what he was born to do.. No business acumen..

wages did pickup over 3% in the last look I got, but they were mostly in the information technology and accounting sectors.. Business still fighting wage increases..
Debt/deficit.... debt in now Even with a economy in good order gift to him the orange disaster has used trillion dollor defecits..

A quick look via Govt, book keeping..

A lot of information on this link if you wish to look, more than only Obama/trump/bush....


https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296

U.S. Debt Increase by Fiscal Year Since 1960
The U.S. Treasury Department has historical tables that report the annual U.S. debt for each fiscal year since 1790. This data has been compiled for each president as detailed below.

Donald Trump: As projected in the FY 2019 budget, Trump plans to add $4.775 trillion, a 29 percent increase from the $20.245 trillion debt at the end of Obama's last budget for FY 2017.

FY 2021 - $1.119 trillion.
FY 2020 - $1.198 trillion.
FY 2019 - $1.225 trillion.
FY 2018 - $1.233 trillion.
Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74 percent increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

FY 2017 - $672 billion.
FY 2016 - $1.423 trillion.
FY 2015 - $327 billion.
FY 2014 - $1.086 trillion.
FY 2013 - $672 billion.
FY 2012 - $1.276 trillion.
FY 2011 - $1.229 trillion.
FY 2010 - $1.652 trillion.
FY 2009 - $253 billion. Congress passed the Economic Stimulus Act, which spent $253 billion in FY 2009. This rare occurrence should be added to President Obama's contribution to the debt.
George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101 percent increase from the $5.8 trillion debt at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

FY 2009 - $1.632 trillion. This was Bush's deficit without the impact of the Economic Stimulus Act.
FY 2008 - $1.017 trillion.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

One more little thing..


President Reagan increased the debt by 186 percent. Reaganomics added $1.86 trillion. Reagan's brand of supply-side economics didn't grow the economy enough to offset the lost revenue from its tax cuts. That was partly because Reagan increased the defense budget by 35 percent.

George W. Bush: President Bush added $5.849 trillion, the second-greatest dollar amount. It was the fourth-largest percentage increase. Bush increased the debt by 101 percent from where it started at $5.8 trillion on September 30, 2001. That's the end of FY 2001, which was President Clinton's last budget.

Bush launched the War on Terror in response to the 9/11 attacks. The War on Terror included two wars. The War in Afghanistan cost $1.1 trillion and the Iraq War cost $1 trillion. They increased military spending to record levels of $600 billion to $800 billion a year.

President Bush also responded to the 2001 recession by passing the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act. He approved a $700 billion bailout package for banks to combat the 2008 global financial crisis. Both Presidents Bush and Obama had to contend with higher mandatory spending for Social Security and Medicare.

Barack Obama: Under President Obama, the national debt grew the most dollar-wise. He added $8.588 trillion. This 74 percent increase was the fifth-largest.

Carol Kelly

Thank you, Bahmer, very succinct and clearly stated. Where were the watchdogs we are supposed to have. He was a h**x from start to finish... Michele and their two
“Daughters” who they borrowed. A majority fell for hook, line and sinker. TWICE

Carol Kelly

Never happened! He left this country hamstrung and certainly, as intelligent as you appear to be, you must know that.

Carol Kelly

The Muslims cannot be legal. There was and is a law that prohibits their entering the USA. We already have too many Muslims in our government and as their numbers grow, we are in deep trouble. Pay attention. Their aim is to drive us out or k**l us.
They already have a heavy foothold in Europe and Great Britain and the Nordic states.
Is that what we want? I don’t think so. Italy is fighting as hard as they can against the scum.

JoyV

He actually CUT judges and replaced some with temporary judges specified with a 6 month maximum time they could work as an immigration judge. And since Trump has had far more aggressive opposition, how did he manage to nearly double the number of immigration judges while Obama with all the Dems and RINOs backing him wound up reducing judges?

By the end of Obama's term, the number of immigration judges, both permanent and temporary; was down to 247. In 2012 there were 269 permanent immigration judges. In 2018 there were 394.

Immigration judges are appointed by the president, NOT Congress!