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Mar 12, 2019 22:05:51   #
Sicilianthing
 
kemmer wrote:
I’d find another hero if I were you.


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Ive already told you I have no hero’s past or present.

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Mar 13, 2019 03:03:30   #
JoyV
 
Bcon wrote:
You and your liberal friends are so upset about the possible cutting of Medicare and social security, and I don’t like the prospect either. But, you have no problems with spending millions if not billions of dollars on benefits for all the i*****l a***ns that you have allowed to come into the country every day because you don’t want to protect our borders. If we weren’t spending that kind of money on their welfare there would be plenty for our own needs. You speak very plainly out of both sides of your mouth. You have a lot of practice. You can make up your beliefs but you can’t make up facts.
You and your liberal friends are so upset about th... (show quote)


average COLA:
Obama
2009--$0
2010--$0
2011--$3.60
2012--$1.70
2013--$1.50
2014--$1.70
2015--$0
2016--$0
......................
Trump
2017--$5.00
2018--$27.38
2019--$39.00

Who was it again who is a threat to social security retirees?

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Mar 13, 2019 03:24:54   #
JoyV
 
kemmer wrote:
I see Trump’s new “budget” is taking $384 billion out of Medicare to pay for his “tax cut”.


Don't you mean the House FY budget for 2019 which did not pass the SEnate let alone be signed by Trump?

Social Security costs are currently covered 100% by payroll taxes and interest on past payroll taxes that have been invested. Thanks to interest on investments, the Trust Fund is still running a surplus. So Appropriations have nothing to do with social security. That the House tried to cut SS when it more than pays for itself, simply means they wanted to steal from it in my opinion!

Trump has approved the largest cost of living adjustments since before the financial crash for the past 2 years!

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Mar 13, 2019 03:37:30   #
JoyV
 
permafrost wrote:
Let us get a few things straight...

illegal/immigration... what I want is for congress to get their act together and make the laws as they decide they should be, clear out the old ineffective laws and then enforce them as intended..

I also do want border security.. but I do not want to waste money on the dumb wall..

Now is that difficult to grasp?

I also contend that the cost of i******s is far less then ever portrayed by the republicans..

I******s are not eligible for welfare...

the most costly spending proposal in history and all domestic programs cut to ribbons...

Of course it will be changed before passed but it will remain an outrageous bill, as bad as the tax bill..

Did you see the news about the great drug bust yesterday? largest ever and found in the back of a container moving by commercial shipping..

but you want that wall don`t you...
Let us get a few things straight... br br illega... (show quote)


You want effective border security but no wall. So how will you make it effective without a wall unless you choose to increased funding tremendously. Even 10 times as many agents couldn't cover enough of the border to get to locations pinpointed by TARS before the i******s could be scattered. Even 100 times as many couldn't do as much as the current amount of agents with the type of wall CBP has asked for.

But if you know better than the CBP, please enlighten us on how it could be done? And not just some vague term like "technology." CBP already has TARS, drones, sound sensors, agents with night vision tech, and current military high tech viewing equipment. Yet CBP say we need a wall.

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Mar 13, 2019 08:14:42   #
promilitary
 
bahmer wrote:
I personally believe that he was bought and paid for by George Soros and someone would have to have much evidence to show me to prove otherwise before I would buy it.


Take a closer look at the birth certificate that was presented as proof positive.
It has several different type faces......which to me indicates a cut and paste.
Also, the name of the hospital as shown on the document where Obama was born did not exist
at the time he was born.....the name of the hospital was changed and they used the wrong one
on the birth certificate.

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Mar 13, 2019 10:01:57   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
promilitary wrote:
Take a closer look at the birth certificate that was presented as proof positive.
It has several different type faces......which to me indicates a cut and paste.
Also, the name of the hospital as shown on the document where Obama was born did not exist
at the time he was born.....the name of the hospital was changed and they used the wrong one
on the birth certificate.


When these facts were first exposed, the progressives , or course, claimed that all such claims were fraud and that the "birth certificate" they presented was the only true document. As I remember, the certificate was not even a birth certificate of the type used at the time. It is "a shame" that the only one who could clear up the issue died in a plane crash where no one else was even hurt.

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Mar 13, 2019 10:08:53   #
bahmer
 
no propaganda please wrote:
When these facts were first exposed, the progressives , or course, claimed that all such claims were fraud and that the "birth certificate" they presented was the only true document. As I remember, the certificate was not even a birth certificate of the type used at the time. It is "a shame" that the only one who could clear up the issue died in a plane crash where no one else was even hurt.


Amen and Amen

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Mar 13, 2019 10:22:13   #
Radiance3
 
no propaganda please wrote:
When these facts were first exposed, the progressives , or course, claimed that all such claims were fraud and that the "birth certificate" they presented was the only true document. As I remember, the certificate was not even a birth certificate of the type used at the time. It is "a shame" that the only one who could clear up the issue died in a plane crash where no one else was even hurt.


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While campaigning for his p**********l bid, Obama visited his grandmother(from the mother side) in Hawaii. She was sick but alive. . But when he visited and left, the grandmother also died. I wonder. The grandmother also knew that Obama was born in Kenya.

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Mar 13, 2019 11:47:47   #
Sicilianthing
 
JoyV wrote:
average COLA:
Obama
2009--$0
2010--$0
2011--$3.60
2012--$1.70
2013--$1.50
2014--$1.70
2015--$0
2016--$0
......................
Trump
2017--$5.00
2018--$27.38
2019--$39.00

Who was it again who is a threat to social security retirees?


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What is this I dont understand ? Please explain?

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Mar 13, 2019 11:48:41   #
Sicilianthing
 
JoyV wrote:
Don't you mean the House FY budget for 2019 which did not pass the SEnate let alone be signed by Trump?

Social Security costs are currently covered 100% by payroll taxes and interest on past payroll taxes that have been invested. Thanks to interest on investments, the Trust Fund is still running a surplus. So Appropriations have nothing to do with social security. That the House tried to cut SS when it more than pays for itself, simply means they wanted to steal from it in my opinion!

Trump has approved the largest cost of living adjustments since before the financial crash for the past 2 years!
Don't you mean the House FY budget for 2019 which ... (show quote)


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Uhhh Trump’s cost of living increase is an EFFING Joke !

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Mar 13, 2019 11:49:30   #
Sicilianthing
 
JoyV wrote:
You want effective border security but no wall. So how will you make it effective without a wall unless you choose to increased funding tremendously. Even 10 times as many agents couldn't cover enough of the border to get to locations pinpointed by TARS before the i******s could be scattered. Even 100 times as many couldn't do as much as the current amount of agents with the type of wall CBP has asked for.

But if you know better than the CBP, please enlighten us on how it could be done? And not just some vague term like "technology." CBP already has TARS, drones, sound sensors, agents with night vision tech, and current military high tech viewing equipment. Yet CBP say we need a wall.
You want effective border security but no wall. S... (show quote)


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They are being over ran daily.

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Mar 13, 2019 13:23:07   #
JoyV
 
no propaganda please wrote:
When these facts were first exposed, the progressives , or course, claimed that all such claims were fraud and that the "birth certificate" they presented was the only true document. As I remember, the certificate was not even a birth certificate of the type used at the time. It is "a shame" that the only one who could clear up the issue died in a plane crash where no one else was even hurt.


Yup. Funny thing is that I have heard of rare cases where one or more people survive a plane crash which k**led all others. But the only times I have heard of plane crashed with a single fatality is when the only person in the plane is the pilot.

Was this a jet or prop plane. If a jet, even a small private one; a single survivor is unheard of!

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Mar 13, 2019 13:26:38   #
JoyV
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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What is this I dont understand ? Please explain?


This is to counter the argument that Trump is trying to cut or dismantle social security. These are the average cost of living adjustments (COLA) from the first adjustment under Obama to the current one under Trump. 2016 is under Obama.

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Mar 13, 2019 13:28:01   #
Sicilianthing
 
JoyV wrote:
This is to counter the argument that Trump is trying to cut or dismantle social security. These are the average cost of living adjustments (COLA) from the first adjustment under Obama to the current one under Trump. 2016 is under Obama.


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Oh... I guess... I dont get any of that so I dont care.

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Mar 13, 2019 13:30:45   #
JoyV
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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They are being over ran daily.


Do you mean i******s are over running our borders daily, or that funding is being over run? Both are true. The borders are being over run daily by way more than the 70,000 per month which are apprehended. And the current funding approved by congress is way too low to accomplish the job!

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