Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Why?

bahmer

Are not most all of our laws based on the ten commandments? And if so what is wrong with that and how would you base your laws on if not on the bible.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

You have an extremely limited and highly prejudicial view of human nature. It is impossible to separate a human being from his or her belief system, whether that system is based on belief in God or, as atheists are prone to do, on one's own ego.

The belief and faith in God or a supreme being is an undeniably powerful influence in the lives of those who believe. For most religious people their faith and beliefs are the primary guiding force in their lives. When a person's religious beliefs informs, guides or influences everything they do in their lives, the actions they take, the decisions they make, how do you force a man or woman to abandon their entire belief system only when they are elected to public office? Can't be done.

(84% of the world's population are religious or affiliated with religion. In perspective, 6.3 billion people out of 7.5 billion people believe in God.)

"The fundamental basis of this nation's laws was given to Moses on the Mount. The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teachings we get from Exodus and St. Matthew, from Isaiah and St. Paul. I don't think we emphasize that enough these days." - Harry S Truman, Feb. 15, 1950, Attorney General's Conference.

"The Ten Commandments have had an immeasurable effect on Anglo-American legal development" - U.S. District Court, Crockett v. Sorenson , W.D. Va. (1983)

"It is equally undeniable ...that the Ten Commandments have had a significant impact on the development of secular legal codes of the Western World." - U.S. Supreme Court, Stone v. Graham, (1980)

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Good points...

In my opinion a christian president may be more sympathetic to ChristIan refugees...

I don't h**e the Muslim refugees... Far from it...
But after decades of turmoil and poverty (much of it caused/influenced by the very Western countries they now seek asylum in) ,and the influence of entities like the Muslim brotherhood, these individuals are unlikely to ever assimulate into Western culture... And there is a very real risk of terrorism ... Followed by the equally real risk of cultural clashes...

Your points considering religious fanatics from other religions (Christianity) is equally valid...

Your last statement is dead on

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Most religions follow those laws... Not just the Abrahamic religions... It's a simplification to say that most laws are based on 'don't steal' , 'don't k**l', 'don't lie'.... And your First Amendment contradicts the First and Second commandments...

Iliamna1

It is totally amazing to me that any freedom-loving person would even v**e for a Muslim. There was a brief period of idiocy when I dated a Muslim and had to consider which life I would live, so I started studying about Sharia law. I quickly studied my way out of that religion and broke off the relationship as he was going to move back home to Saudi Arabia. There are now Sharia-based enclaves here in the United States
There's a book by Bill Warner, PHD called "Sharia Law for non-Muslims" and I'm going to use some of the quotes from it.

Under Sharia Law:
* There is no freedom of religion,
* There is no freedom of speech.
* There is no freedom of thought.
* There is no freedom of artistic expression.
* There is no freedom of the press.
* There is no e******y of peoples. A Kafir (non-muslim) is never equal to a Muslim.
* There is no equal protection under Muslim law for different classes of people. Justice is dualistic with different sets of laws, one for Muslim males and different lawss for non-Muslims and women.
* There are no equal rights for women. (Under Sharia, they are considered property).
* Women can be beaten. (Some of the emirs have written books on them proper way to beat them).
* A non-Muslim cannot bear arms.
* There is no democracy since democracy means that a non-Muslim is equal to a Muslim.
* The American Constitution is a man-made document of ignorance, jahili-yah, that must submit to Sharia.
* Non-Muslims are dhimmiks, second class subjects.
* All governments must be ruled by Sharia law.
* Unlike common law, Sharia is not interpretive, nor can it be changed.
* There is no Golden Rule.

Other issues I have is belief in Taqqia, that lying to nonk-muslims is permisable. It takes 2 women in their courts to equal the testimony of one man. If a woman is rapoed, she can be stoned for having sex wih someone she's not married to. In a divorce, the man gets to keep the assets and the children. I could go on with the atrocities promulgated by that Horrific relgion.

Even in the Old Testament in the Levitical Laws the Jews were forbidden to ha a foreigner to ru9le over them to prevent injust among the Jews.

Why would any sane person, either Democrat or Republican, v**e for a Muslim?

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Does this help ?

Iliamna1

I have several friends who are Christian missionaries in Pakistan. Muslims are coming to Christ faster than the Muslims can k**l them. Some of their ministry is reaching in to Afghanistan and the number of Christians there is also growing. There is also a ministry of pastoral training that is being used widely across central Africa and many are coming to Christ there. I do believe we are in end times and there is a harvest of believers going on ini unexpected places. It used to be very difficult to win any Muslim to Christ, but now many are leaving that dark religion. In Europe, there are many missionaries at the relocation camps where many Muslims have fled and many there are also receptive to the Gospel.

Rose42

Outstanding! Its encouraging to hear them leaving islam.

I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of Nabeel Qureshi. He became a Christian at the cost of being ostracized. He passed away a couple of years ago in his early 30s but he reached a lot of people.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

I was under the impression that it was illegal for Christians to proselytize in Pakistan and Afghanistan... Not so?

Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!

And so our OPP poll shows that 90% Will not v**e for a Muslim President
Go figure (Meet the Press)

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

That is truly deplorable polling

Iliamna1

It IS illegal, but the funny thing is that my friends are often accomopanied by armed government m*****a to protect them as they preach and have provided photos of this. Some of their guards have accepted Christ! On conversion to any religion other than Islam, it's perfectly legal to murder converts. But despite this, many are coming to understand the Good News of the Gospel, especially women and children. Under the iron rod of Islam, they have no hope of a future, but under Christ, much is changed. While Christians are widely and often persecuted, they are multiplying faster than their losses. It is an exciting time to be an evangelical Christian!

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Just to clarrify...

You have no problem breaking the laws of another country to proselytize for Christianity..
But don't wish Muslims to proselytize (or live) in America...

Just making sure I am reading what you have written correctly...

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Which countries has made Christianity illegal? I know of a few, for example North Korea which is still under C*******m (for now) which makes practice of any religion punishable under their laws...yet, there is a provision in their law allowing the legal practice Christianity. I know some nations have made it a crime to denounce islam, but still allow practice of Christianity in their own homes. You being more sympathetic to muslim and their religion, perhaps you can supply me with a list.

Just for education purpose, a muslim can practice and even build mosques in the US. The question being, should a devout muslim be the leader of a predominately Christian nation....