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Feb 23, 2019 14:37:26   #
PJT
 
Nickolai: also quit using language like Dim-o-crate. There are millions of Democrats who can be convinced and brought to our side IF WE DONT TOTSLLY ALIENATE THEM.

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Feb 23, 2019 15:04:29   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
PeterS wrote:
The Conservative agenda is to sell fear of the Democrat agenda!


He was a Socialist, and he had a number of CPUSA members on his staff and as advisors. Actually he slowed down the recovery causing the depression to last longer than it should have and left the doors wide open for the likes of Obama,Hillary and Bernie Sanders to work their way in under the tent flaps. A great book and very informative is New Deal or Raw Deal How FDR's Economic Legacy Has Damaged America By Burton Fulsom with 50 -pages of foot notes and documentation. Between that and Blacklisted by History about Sen. McCarthy will fill in the rest of the Story.

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Feb 23, 2019 15:16:55   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
no propaganda please wrote:
He was a Socialist, and he had a number of CPUSA members on his staff and as advisors. Actually he slowed down the recovery causing the depression to last longer than it should have and left the doors wide open for the likes of Obama,Hillary and Bernie Sanders to work their way in under the tent flaps. A great book and very informative is New Deal or Raw Deal How FDR's Economic Legacy Has Damaged America By Burton Fulsom with 50 -pages of foot notes and documentation. Between that and Blacklisted by History about Sen. McCarthy will fill in the rest of the Story.
He was a Socialist, and he had a number of CPUSA m... (show quote)

Excellent sources/references there, No Prop. I know you and SWMBO are avid readers with a substantial library, if you don’t already have it, another is, The Constitution and the New Deal by: G. Edward White

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Feb 23, 2019 15:30:17   #
PJT
 
FDR had great charm and charisma, coupled with a gift for oratory. People were fooled, a simpler people in a simpler time.
Now we live in a more sophisticated age yet the majority are at least as easily fooled.

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Feb 23, 2019 15:51:07   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
Excellent sources/references there, No Prop. I know you and SWMBO are avid readers with a substantial library, if you don’t already have it, another is, The Constitution and the New Deal by: G. Edward White


We probably have 200 political books, plus even more on nature and dogs, and brain development. Don't have that one however, will see if ABE books has one available. PM me if you are looking for something out of the left wing balderdash,I might have it and would be happy to send it to you.

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Feb 23, 2019 16:01:21   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
Excellent sources/references there, No Prop. I know you and SWMBO are avid readers with a substantial library, if you don’t already have it, another is, The Constitution and the New Deal by: G. Edward White


Found it but it is too expnsive, so will have to wait until i can find a used copy. Do you have DISINFORMATION by Pacepa? He was instrimental in the lies the soviet Union used to manipulate the West. I have an extra audio copy if you want it, let me know by PM

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Feb 23, 2019 16:44:33   #
The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Found it but it is too expnsive, so will have to wait until i can find a used copy. Do you have DISINFORMATION by Pacepa? He was instrimental in the lies the soviet Union used to manipulate the West. I have an extra audio copy if you want it, let me know by PM

https://www.amazon.com/Constitution-New-Deal-Edward-White/dp/0674008316

There’s a used paperback copy here for $21... that’s expensive for a paperback...sorry, I don’t remember it being that expensive, my copy may have been a gift.

And yes, I have read disinformation, and still have my copy somewhere, unless I gave it to a niece or nephew. You and your wife made me that offer a while back on another thread, I appreciate that, and still have it in mind and will take you up on that if I come across something I want and don’t have; thank you.

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Feb 23, 2019 17:37:57   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
PJT wrote:
Back in 1987 Denmark ( I don't know situation there now) had a national tax rate on all of over 65%, plus high rates for gasoline, alcohol and cigarettes. And just those things were obvious to tourists.
So, No. Health care wasn't free.
They didn't have much military expenses as we funded NATO so highly. And they didn't have universal free college education.
They didn't have much border security.
Americans better learn the true costs of such programs.
Our Socialist I.E. Democrats propose "freebies" that would require a tax rate in ALL of way over 100% of income and assets.
Our poorest would have a living standard of small increase.
Our middle class would cease to exist.
All so our compassionate Democrats could rule over us in perpetuity...until the destructive revolution.
All this doesn't even take into account a******ns, open borders and many other nutty programs inc. doing away with gasoline, nuclear energy, coal, airplanes, ships (unless they are sailing vessels or s***es to row them.
So, ladies, enjoy your free sex as a******ns of the next generation will soar above the birth rate. As our quality of life deteriorates you may only have sexual activity for pleasure as is true in many countries with little freedom or
economic opportunities for its impoverished citizens.
I end my comments knowing a lot more examples and facts could be discussed...say replacing all commercial buildings and private homes for fuel efficiency
No, we aren't talking billions in additional taxes...more like trillions and quintillions.
Dint fall for the "over a ten year period argument" the next 10 yearsxwoukd cost way more.
Unless we grow money trees and print more money. (Read about Germany's inflation in the 1920s for the amazing benefits of inflation.)
Back in 1987 Denmark ( I don't know situation ther... (show quote)


My money actually does grow on trees. I have many monthly sales for baled longleaf pine straw. Most of my income comes from 40 acres of Christmas trees.

In six year's I will be able to harvest 100 acres esch year. This is a expanding program started this year with the 510 acres I acquired.

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Feb 23, 2019 17:43:42   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Nickolai wrote:
Neurologists can do a brain scan and determin quickly if you lean toward the conservative or liberal political spectrum. It's in the genes and you poor buggers cant help it if you lean right. While social environment the way your raised plays a large roll in this determination 30 40 % of it is genetic


You would fail to qualify.

First you have to have a brain to be scanned.

When God was handing out "Brain" you thought he said "rain" and ran for shelter.

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Feb 23, 2019 17:57:39   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Nickolai wrote:
The government providing jobs is socialism. If capitalism cannot provide services to the people and government can that is socialism and if it works it is a good thing


Then I am a conservative capitalist.

I have nothing to do with the federal government except to obey the laws, withold and pay my employees Social Security and my income taxes. The rate is right at 39% this year and recieve nothin back.

I cant ever deduct the donations to the needy families in my area. The government claimes they don't qualify as deductions.

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Feb 23, 2019 18:07:17   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
PJT wrote:
FDR had great charm and charisma, coupled with a gift for oratory. People were fooled, a simpler people in a simpler time.
Now we live in a more sophisticated age yet the majority are at least as easily fooled.


The problem today most people under 40 years of age have been indoctrinated with false information. And their IQ is about the same as their age.

Like that outstanding New York Senater that wants to ride the super train from New York to Hawaii. Fine outstanding Socialist
Dim-O-Crat.

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Feb 23, 2019 18:16:10   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
no propaganda please wrote:
We probably have 200 political books, plus even more on nature and dogs, and brain development. Don't have that one however, will see if ABE books has one available. PM me if you are looking for something out of the left wing balderdash,I might have it and would be happy to send it to you.


That is fine, I have never actually counted them. My friends from the county librars and "Books on wheels" aay I have twice as many as they have.

I actually have a book written by A. Lincoln which is a rare valuable book. Mozt are written about our American history writers who helped make our American history.

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Feb 23, 2019 19:26:10   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
zillaorange wrote:
Good point, correction, being involved in Gov't. was hurting their business. Now the politicos live for office, not their constituents !!! TERM LIMITS A MUST !!!


I posted my recomendstions and even for the SCOTUS on another thread.

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Feb 23, 2019 19:28:18   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Nickolai wrote:
Neurologists can do a brain scan and determin quickly if you lean toward the conservative or liberal political spectrum. It's in the genes and you poor buggers cant help it if you lean right. While social environment the way your raised plays a large roll in this determination 30 40 % of it is genetic


How many threads are you going to post that lie on?

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Feb 23, 2019 19:45:05   #
Nickolai
 
PJT wrote:
Nikolai: what oversimplification and misleading propaganda.







What are you talking about ? I don't spread propaganda.

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