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Feb 22, 2019 17:19:26   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
old marine wrote:
Wrong answer. No one had jobs or money. Creating jobs is not Socialist. The building of the Hoover dam provided good paying jobs and low cost clean electricity for America.

Plus creating other jobs for the unemployed helped put America back to work again.


not many of you lived during the bgreat depression
I did
Though just a lad,I remember the hardships my parents had
just to feed and clothe their children was a monumental undertaking
There were no Jobs to be had
My step father who helped raise me was an excellent carpenter ,but there was no need for his expertise
he was forced to bootlegging alcohol to put food on the table for his family
then FDR was elected
he did outlaw gold
but nobody had much if any
but he started WPA(Works Progress Administration)
and my step father and my mother went to work for the WPA
they each made a dollar a day
and were thankful to get it
then FDR helped start the building of 'Casa Manana' in Ft Worth Texas
and my step dad got to put his expertise to work for a decent salary
when that job was finished we moved to Velasco Texas
where he worked building the Dow Chemical building
hard times were over
I don't feel that FDR was a socialist
he just provided jobs for America

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Feb 22, 2019 18:02:08   #
Tug484
 
PeterS wrote:
The Conservative agenda is to sell fear of the Democrat agenda!


You also started a 3% income tax that was only supposed to last long enough to pay for the war. Look where we are now.
You also lent 3 million dollars to Russia and to this day they haven't paid it back.
I know because my relative was your VP
and he got to the point he didn't like you.
He refused to be your VP in your third term.
I know because I read a book on him.

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Feb 22, 2019 19:53:48   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
PJT wrote:
PadreMike & Old Marine: if only CNN and CNBC ok but since its over 90% of the media, and there is no longer a Fairness Doctrine, I kinda favor a constitutional amendment repealing free press. Why should we be hypocrites?
If the GOP ever gets control of both houses and the presidency, and gets some guts, a strong law or constitutional amendment re Fairness Doctrine would be ok.


I would recommend a few multiple million dollar law suit's to get their attention. Provide the t***h or get sued. No excuses of mistakes or errors pay up or shut up.

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Feb 22, 2019 19:54:55   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
TrueAmerican wrote:
BULL MANURE !!!!!!!!!!
BULL MANURE !!!!!!!!!! img src="https://static.on... (show quote)


I totally agree with you.

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Feb 22, 2019 19:58:25   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
zillaorange wrote:
The founders wanted OUT OF POLITICS because their business' were losing Money ! Unlike todays, useless members of the "politician class".


There were no politics in their era. No political parties until after the 1800's.

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Feb 22, 2019 20:08:20   #
trucksterbud
 
PeterS wrote:
The Conservative agenda is to sell fear of the Democrat agenda!


FDR WAS a socialist. Too deep for you I'm sure but FDR and his banker buddies CAUSED the Great Depression, by manipulating the money supply. (Didn't do your homework here did ya...??)

Then, they came around and brought on the solution. Minimum wage, 40 hour work week, Social Seciurity, etc. Ya, cause, (money manipulation) effect (millions in poverty and despair) solution (government handouts, and control) Didn't do your homework here did ya..??

That's the real Democrat agenda. Put you in despair, offer the solution, a free handout, tax the rich, more government control. Always works for braindead moonbats. (And Democrats)

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Feb 22, 2019 20:26:52   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
badbobby wrote:
not many of you lived during the bgreat depression
I did
Though just a lad,I remember the hardships my parents had
just to feed and clothe their children was a monumental undertaking
There were no Jobs to be had
My step father who helped raise me was an excellent carpenter ,but there was no need for his expertise
he was forced to bootlegging alcohol to put food on the table for his family
then FDR was elected
he did outlaw gold
but nobody had much if any
but he started WPA(Works Progress Administration)
and my step father and my mother went to work for the WPA
they each made a dollar a day
and were thankful to get it
then FDR helped start the building of 'Casa Manana' in Ft Worth Texas
and my step dad got to put his expertise to work for a decent salary
when that job was finished we moved to Velasco Texas
where he worked building the Dow Chemical building
hard times were over
I don't feel that FDR was a socialist
he just provided jobs for America
not many of you lived during the bgreat depression... (show quote)


I agree Franklin D. Roosevelt was a true Democrat not anything like the Socialist Democrats of today. They wouldn't make a pimple of a real Democrat like Roosevelt's behind.

I remember the the depression living with my Grandpaw my father was his only son and my mother we all lived on the tree farm.

My father was a Marine 1st lieutenant and was called to active duty shortly after the Japanese attacked Pearl harbor. In 1942 he had a 30 day leave before shipping out overseas.

He and my mom went to Natchez to visit her mother and father and left Natchez around 1:00 AM the accident report said apparently he fell asleep. No alchohol was involved. I was three years old. My Grandmaw and Grandpaw became my parents. Grandmaw was 58 when she died of a heart attack.

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Feb 22, 2019 20:33:55   #
Nickolai
 
old marine wrote:
Social Security has nothing to do with Socialist that is just a Socialist Dim-O-Crats misdirection to get dumb people to think the Socialist agenda is good for America.






Social security, Medicare, public utilities, public libraries, national and state parks, public land development, internet service, health care centers, fire dept, police dept, public t***sportation, every branch of the military, roads and highways, public hospitals, public toilets, public drinking fountains, public parking , public everything are all examples of socialism

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Feb 22, 2019 20:34:11   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
trucksterbud wrote:
FDR WAS a socialist. Too deep for you I'm sure but FDR and his banker buddies CAUSED the Great Depression, by manipulating the money supply. (Didn't do your homework here did ya...??)

Then, they came around and brought on the solution. Minimum wage, 40 hour work week, Social Seciurity, etc. Ya, cause, (money manipulation) effect (millions in poverty and despair) solution (government handouts, and control) Didn't do your homework here did ya..??

That's the real Democrat agenda. Put you in despair, offer the solution, a free handout, tax the rich, more government control. Always works for braindead moonbats. (And Democrats)
FDR b WAS /b a socialist. Too deep for you I'm s... (show quote)


Sorry to infirm you but your histry is wrong.

The great depression of the 1930's was due to the black friday of 1928 when the stock market crashed. The great depressiin started in 1932 and lasted until about 1936.

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Feb 22, 2019 20:40:53   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
old marine wrote:
I agree Franklin D. Roosevelt was a true Democrat not anything like the Socialist Democrats of today. They wouldn't make a pimple of a real Democrat like Roosevelt's behind.

I remember the the depression living with my Grandpaw my father was his only son and my mother we all lived on the tree farm.

My father was a Marine 1st lieutenant and was called to active duty shortly after the Japanese attacked Pearl harbor. In 1942 he had a 30 day leave before shipping out overseas.

He and my mom went to Natchez to visit her mother and father and left Natchez around 1:00 AM the accident report said apparently he fell asleep. No alchohol was involved. I was three years old. My Grandmaw and Grandpaw became my parents. Grandmaw was 58 when she died of a heart attack.
I agree Franklin D. Roosevelt was a true Democrat ... (show quote)

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Feb 22, 2019 20:50:32   #
Nickolai
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Adolf Hitler modeled his economic programs after Franklin D. Roosevelt's CCC, WPA, etc. FDR’s programs were carefully constructed to make it appear as if he was actually doing something about the problem.

His very first action as president in 1933 was to devalue the dollar by 75%, plummeting the value of the life savings of anyone who had any. He ordered the seizing of all privately held gold making it illegal for anyone to have any, punishable by substantial prison time. Every deposit box in the country was sealed with government goons assigned to confiscate any gold when they were opened.

Murray Rothbard wrote a book called The Economics of F*****m covering his vaunted New Deal. By 1937, even his closest advisors were conceding that it hadn’t worked.

He was a barely competent attorney and the law firm that hired him did so because of his old money connections. There is memo from a senior partner at the firm to the other members to make sure they gave no work assignments to him of any import or complexity.

He was personally a nasty man, arrogant and insulting to common workers who couldn’t hurt him and a bootlicking opportunist for those who could help him. I know two anecdotes about him, one witnessed by my father during WWI, attesting to this.

He was a true f*****t.
Adolf Hitler modeled his economic programs after F... (show quote)






When FDR was elected in 1932--- 28 million Americans had no visible means of suppor. Some people along the eastern sea board were livng on boiled dandelions. The railroad cars had more hoboes riding the rails below the cars than there were paying pasengers above. Teenage girls were risking pregnancy, disease, and even death turning tricks in the hobo jungles. 80 percent of the population had no savings.

Hitle was able to re arm Germany quickly after he made himself dicatator in 1933 with financing by western capitalists such as Ford ,G M, Kodak, DuPont and A German steel magnate who thought he was a strong man who could act as a buffer between them and C*******t Russia. They thought if the Romanoves could be assassinated in a workers revolution they could could suffer the same fate if it wasn't contained

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Feb 22, 2019 20:55:04   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Nickolai wrote:
Social security, Medicare, public utilities, public libraries, national and state parks, public land development, internet service, health care centers, fire dept, police dept, public t***sportation, every branch of the military, roads and highways, public hospitals, public toilets, public drinking fountains, public parking , public everything are all examples of socialism


As usual your Socialist Dim-O-Crat mind is totally wrong. Socialist agenda destroys not provide fot the old, dissble or poor.

Pedal your bull crap Socialist agenda to someone who may be dumb enough to believe it.

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Feb 22, 2019 20:57:33   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Nickolai wrote:
When FDR was elected in 1932--- 28 million Americans had no visible means of suppor. Some people along the eastern sea board were livng on boiled dandelions. The railroad cars had more hoboes riding the rails below the cars than there were paying pasengers above. Teenage girls were risking pregnancy, disease, and even death turning tricks in the hobo jungles. 80 percent of the population had no savings.

Hitle was able to re arm Germany quickly after he made himself dicatator in 1933 with financing by western capitalists such as Ford ,G M, Kodak, DuPont and A German steel magnate who thought he was a strong man who could act as a buffer between them and C*******t Russia. They thought if the Romanoves could be assassinated in a workers revolution they could could suffer the same fate if it wasn't contained
When FDR was elected in 1932--- 28 million America... (show quote)


What. Comic book did you read that in?

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Feb 22, 2019 21:39:30   #
Nickolai
 
old marine wrote:
Wrong answer. No one had jobs or money. Creating jobs is not Socialist. The building of the Hoover dam provided good paying jobs and low cost clean electricity for America.

Plus creating other jobs for the unemployed helped put America back to work again.





The capitalist either couldn't or wouldn't hire workers --millions of Americans were joining the socialist and c*******t parties. They and the labor unions were calling for federal intervention. Revolution was heavy in the air , something had to be done. FDR consulted with the economic elites and told them the government would have to intervene and put people to work and the would have to pay for it with increased taxes The FDR new deal included farm aid the WPA and the CCC and they hired 11 million people. Backed home mortgage allowing lenders to extend mortgages from 15 years to 30 years. They passed the Glass Steagall Act in response to 5,000 banks going down wiping out the depositors. It included FDIC all of these programs and much more had been pushed by the socialist party

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Feb 23, 2019 00:46:18   #
EconomistDon
 
PeterS wrote:
The Conservative agenda is to sell fear of the Democrat agenda!


Petey, why are you always on the short-sighted end of the conversation? Do you not realize that Socialism is a matter of degree? Certainly, socialist practices are essential to any civilized society. People help each other in a civilized system. We can see in the remains of individuals up to 10,000 years ago that old people with bad teeth could not have survived without someone else chewing their food and spitting it into their mouths. (Isn't history fun!!!) People working together and helping each other made civilization possible.

So a civilization always has socialist characteristics, but to what extent? With time, socialism grows, especially in a prosperous civilization. Help the poor and help the handicapped grows into free stuff for all. But as free stuff grows and capitalism fades, so does prosperity. This happens over and over through history. Argentina is a prime example. In the 1950s, Argentina was the gleaming example of prosperity in South America. They had it all, grand swaths of rich farmland, abundant natural resources, and a booming economy. But socialism was taking over, robbing the country of its potential. The straw that broke the (economic) camel's back in Argentina was free healthcare for all. As happens so often in socialist societies, Argentina was taken over by f*****m under Juan Peron. The country has been an economic cesspool ever since.

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