They called me a socialist (Page 2): I am not talking about loans. I am referring to cities building the arenas with very little chance of getting repaid. All are not loans.

Bcon

old marine wrote:

Loans to build sports stadiums that are repaid
Are not coroporate welfare, they are paid back with intrest.

If you check 90% of these losns were approved by Socialist Dim-O-Crats.

I am not talking about loans. I am referring to cities building the arenas with very little chance of getting repaid. All are not loans.

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

Bcon wrote:

I am not talking about loans. I am referring to cities building the arenas with very little chance of getting repaid. All are not loans.

I am not aware of any city building a sports stadium.

Which city has millions of dollars to build a sports stadium?

Bcon

old marine wrote:

I am not aware of any city building a sports stadium.

Which city has millions of dollars to build a sports stadium?

They were built in the past. Philadelphia for one. They also build a stadium if a team would indicate they would move there. How many teams have changed cities in your time?

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

Bcon wrote:

They were built in the past. Philadelphia for one. They also build a stadium if a team would indicate they would move there. How many teams have changed cities in your time?

Let's see.

The Boston Braves moved to Milwaukee then Atlanta Georga.

The New York giants moved to San Franciso

St. Louis cardinals moved to Phoenix, Arizona

New teams were established in San Diego, Los Angeles Angles, Seattle, Dallas-Ft. Worth, Houston

Football teams several New York teams moved Los Angles Rames moved to St. Louis when the Cardinals moved west. A houston team mived to Tennessee.

The New York Jets, New York Giants moved to the suburbs, Baltimore Colts moved to Indianapolis. The old Chicago Cardinals moved to St. Louis.

Then there were new teams in San Diego, 2 teams in the ssn Francisco area. Los Angles, Houston, New Orleans, Atlanta, Georgia , South Carolina, Jacksonville, Miami, Tampa and i may have mussed a few.

Bcon

old marine wrote:

Let's see. br br The Boston Braves moved to Milwa... (show quote)

Very nice history of mob. Thanks.

EmilyD

PeterS wrote:

The Conservative agenda is to sell fear of the Democrat agenda!

Yes. The Democrat agenda should be feared at all costs. Especially if it veers to Democrat/Socialist...like Bernie and AOC...be afraid...be VERY afraid...

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

EmilyD wrote:

Yes. The Democrat agenda should be feared at all costs. Especially if it veers to Democrat/Socialist...like Bernie and AOC...be afraid...be VERY afraid...

I can agree with that.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

old marine wrote:

Wrong answer. No one had jobs or money. Creating jobs is not Socialist. The building of the Hoover dam provided good paying jobs and low cost clean electricity for America.

Plus creating other jobs for the unemployed helped put America back to work again.

The Hoover dam, along with the other boondoggles that FDR financed, have had devastating ecological consequences for their regions. True to form, rdical environmentalists blame the dam on the free market and capitalism. They were constructed under crony capitalism.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

Airforceone wrote:

SS, Medicare, and Medicaid , Defence Department, Oil and farm Sibdifies, Tax subsidies to entice corporations to open manufacturing my city, Using Tax incentives to entice major sports team to my city by building them a stadium, corporate welfare

The only agency among those listed, performing constitutionally permissible work is Defense.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

PeterS wrote:

The Conservative agenda is to sell fear of the Democrat agenda!

Yet he was elected to four terms, dying in his fourth which also brought about the 22 amendment to term limits of 2 terms only after him...

Once they have served two, done!!!
We need term limits from the SCOTUS down to city mayors...

PJT

FDR DID NOT END TGE DEPRESSION unless it was By getting us into war.
He DID boost the morale of a suffering people in those horrible years--1932-1939.
FDR goaded Japan into attacking us, and well before Pearl Harbor he had American vessels aiding the British Navy by spotting and even firing on German U-Boats.
And he was incredibly cozy with Stalin. Study Teheran, Potsdam and Yalta.
He also kept China from its full role at the conferences to placate Stalin.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

crazylibertarian wrote:

Adolf Hitler modeled his economic programs after F... (show quote)

I remember when some people refused to accept a Roosevelt dime in their change opting for a liberty dime or two nickels.

Morgan

Airforceone wrote:

SS, Medicare, and Medicaid , Defence Department, Oil and farm Sibdifies, Tax subsidies to entice corporations to open manufacturing my city, Using Tax incentives to entice major sports team to my city by building them a stadium, corporate welfare

You forgot the military.

currahee506

All socialist have the same substantial desire as did FDR, namely, to use OPM.

Morgan

PJT wrote:

FDR DID NOT END TGE DEPRESSION unless it was By getting us into war.
He DID boost the morale of a suffering people in those horrible years--1932-1939.
FDR goaded Japan into attacking us, and well before Pearl Harbor he had American vessels aiding the British Navy by spotting and even firing on German U-Boats.
And he was incredibly cozy with Stalin. Study Teheran, Potsdam and Yalta.
He also kept China from its full role at the conferences to placate Stalin.

He certainly did end the depression and created a stable middle class, he avoided the war possibly for too long as millions of lives probably could have been saved. he never goaded Japan, Japan the turn coats had been negotiating a peace treaty with us at the time.
Stalin accusation I won't even dignify.
it is only far-right radicals who would say things as you just have, very unamerican towards a president who brought us so far ahead.