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Jan 29, 2019 17:40:27   #
woodguru
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Incoming record cold in the north and northeast; a big "winter vortex." But here's the point. For one, it's just a matter of time until someone says it's caused by g****l w*****g, assumed to be of man made cause. Second, it's record cold, ok!?? And so, if the l*****ts who promote man caused c*****e c****e for other "weather events" like storms, fires and what not, then I guess I and those who can actually think and reason outside of being told what to think, can say this cold must prove there is no warming!
Incoming record cold in the north and northeast; a... (show quote)


No point in saying, it is what it is.

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Jan 29, 2019 17:42:29   #
woodguru
 
EL wrote:
Who cares if there is g****l w*****g. It'll take about a million years to go up a degree or two. By then some country will have decided to blow the world to bits or an asteroid will hit or something. G****l w*****g (if it even exists) is far from earths only problem.


Actually a few degrees in ten years. A few degrees wreaks havoc with what can survive where, especially water

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Jan 29, 2019 18:51:38   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
Actually a few degrees in ten years. A few degrees wreaks havoc with what can survive where, especially water


Not that fast. As the Earth moved out of ice ages over the past million years, the global temperature rose a total of 4 to 7 degrees Celsius over about 5,000 years. In the past century alone, the temperature has climbed 0.7 degrees Celsius.

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Jan 30, 2019 00:10:30   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Not that fast. As the Earth moved out of ice ages over the past million years, the global temperature rose a total of 4 to 7 degrees Celsius over about 5,000 years. In the past century alone, the temperature has climbed 0.7 degrees Celsius.


Aren't these people fun to debate with? They never admit to anything but it is always still there.

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Jan 30, 2019 05:36:06   #
tophat
 
Remember when Jimmie Peanut was president? Then it was that the sun was just about out of gas,so we had better raise taxes pretty quick so that we can combat this before it gets really bad! This s**m has been going on longer than I have been alive, and that is almost 80 years! I read an article in the Readers Digest, I think it was early 60s ,that article stated that in the 20s the i***ts in the msm were talking about every 30 years or so they change from warming to cooling. INSANE!!n the globe was warming so fast that we had better raise taxes to keep NY from sinking because of the glacier melt.
nwtk2007 wrote:
Incoming record cold in the north and northeast; a big "winter vortex." But here's the point. For one, it's just a matter of time until someone says it's caused by g****l w*****g, assumed to be of man made cause. Second, it's record cold, ok!?? And so, if the l*****ts who promote man caused c*****e c****e for other "weather events" like storms, fires and what not, then I guess I and those who can actually think and reason outside of being told what to think, can say this cold must prove there is no warming!
Incoming record cold in the north and northeast; a... (show quote)

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Jan 30, 2019 06:04:42   #
tophat
 
BULL!
PeterS wrote:
No, this cold doesn't prove there is no warming. Again you are mixing whether with climate. The polar vortex is caused by a shift in the jet stream and the changing jet stream is caused by g****l w*****g. So the correct reasoning is that this record cold is proof of g****l w*****g. Whether it is caused by man is a different debate.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/02022018/cold-weather-polar-vortex-jet-stream-explained-global-warming-arctic-ice-c*****e-c****e

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Jan 30, 2019 07:37:51   #
Idaho
 
lpnmajor wrote:
How many times do we have to explain that it's C*****E C****E not g****l w*****g? C*****e c****e models PREDICTED record breaking cold in winter, as well as record breaking heat in summer, and it did it 20 years ago.

Try doing some legitimate research.


C*****e C****e ãs frothed about byactivists is simply another excuse to tax and redistribute the wealth.

I have written many times here so not doing the Long proof again.

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Jan 30, 2019 07:42:42   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
tophat wrote:
Remember when Jimmie Peanut was president? Then it was that the sun was just about out of gas,so we had better raise taxes pretty quick so that we can combat this before it gets really bad! This s**m has been going on longer than I have been alive, and that is almost 80 years! I read an article in the Readers Digest, I think it was early 60s ,that article stated that in the 20s the i***ts in the msm were talking about every 30 years or so they change from warming to cooling. INSANE!!n the globe was warming so fast that we had better raise taxes to keep NY from sinking because of the glacier melt.
Remember when Jimmie Peanut was president? Then it... (show quote)


And New York can just move up a floor!

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Jan 30, 2019 08:24:13   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
Maybe this is the real threat, and not Gore's/left democrats theory of carbon.
If that continues to accelerate, North will soon be South.

https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/121123/nibiru-expert-shift-magnetic-poles/?utm_source=Israel365&utm_campaign=f48bc78c5a-BIN_morning_1_19&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_bb2894f273-f48bc78c5a-45855817&mc_cid=f48bc78c5a&mc_eid=e10f382fc3


nwtk2007 wrote:
Incoming record cold in the north and northeast; a big "winter vortex." But here's the point. For one, it's just a matter of time until someone says it's caused by g****l w*****g, assumed to be of man made cause. Second, it's record cold, ok!?? And so, if the l*****ts who promote man caused c*****e c****e for other "weather events" like storms, fires and what not, then I guess I and those who can actually think and reason outside of being told what to think, can say this cold must prove there is no warming!
Incoming record cold in the north and northeast; a... (show quote)

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Jan 30, 2019 08:59:27   #
TrueAmerican
 
PeterS wrote:
No, this cold doesn't prove there is no warming. Again you are mixing whether with climate. The polar vortex is caused by a shift in the jet stream and the changing jet stream is caused by g****l w*****g. So the correct reasoning is that this record cold is proof of g****l w*****g. Whether it is caused by man is a different debate.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/02022018/cold-weather-polar-vortex-jet-stream-explained-global-warming-arctic-ice-c*****e-c****e


Riiggghhhhhtttttttt from a guy who can't even spell weather --- too too funny ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

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Jan 30, 2019 09:00:22   #
TrueAmerican
 
archie bunker wrote:
Record cold? Nah, I don't think so. I'll bet folding money that it was colder during the last ice age, that ended because of g****l w*****g.
And, if I'm not mistaken, that was a day, or two before the invention of the internal combustion engine.



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Jan 30, 2019 10:09:34   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
CodyCoonhound wrote:


The magnetic north has been moving south for a while now.

http://ngdc.noaa.gov/geomag/GeomagneticPoles.shtml

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Jan 30, 2019 10:22:13   #
plainlogic
 
Helilord wrote:
The today show this morning said we should look at c*****e c****e globally.
I guess that's only true for extreme cold, not for extreme warmth



Break that down a little more. explain!

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Jan 30, 2019 11:12:18   #
JoyV
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Incoming record cold in the north and northeast; a big "winter vortex." But here's the point. For one, it's just a matter of time until someone says it's caused by g****l w*****g, assumed to be of man made cause. Second, it's record cold, ok!?? And so, if the l*****ts who promote man caused c*****e c****e for other "weather events" like storms, fires and what not, then I guess I and those who can actually think and reason outside of being told what to think, can say this cold must prove there is no warming!
Incoming record cold in the north and northeast; a... (show quote)


Multiple news stories from the usual msm sources are already claiming it is caused by g****l w*****g. They say it is a breakup of the polar vortex due to warming. So lets look at this claim.

A polar vortex is the dense rotating mass of cold air which sits over the poles. Each year it breaks up at the end of winter when warm spring winds push into it from middle latitudes. The hotter the temps at the middle latitudes, the more dynamic is this break-up, and the more dynamic, the worse the late spring storms (last gasp of winter). When there is a late spring blizzard, a violent break-up of the polar vortex may be the cause.

So is this what is happening? The media claim it is. If it were there are some easy to confirm evidence.

1) There would need to have been a record or near record hot winter in the middle latitudes. Was there? And no; the record heats of 2009 do not count. It would have to be in the winter preceding the spring break-up.

2) It happens AFTER buds are opened, blossoms and new growth is well started. Was this the case this year?

Looking back over the winter and even entire year of 2018, instead of record heats we see far more colder than average temperatures. This past cold weather system was only the most recent in a series of cold winter storms. And even last summer had far cooler than average temperatures.

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Jan 30, 2019 11:15:16   #
CodyCoonhound Loc: Redbone Country
 
Yes the article says exactly that.
However, in 2015 it was 9 mi/year. Now accelerated to 34 mi/year due to shifting molten ferrous below earths surface. The concerning part is they do not know why or how it will change speed- or if will effect anything but navigation.

I know my land survey, done 20 years ago, was prepared on magnetic north and true north. I needed to find a couple iron pins and looked for them based on my magnetic markings and they were off by 30 feet or so since the last time I checked. About 9 years ago.

The question for scientists is if molten ferrous moves, will it have any effect on rotation of earth around its axis. Seems to me, that might change the w*****r p*****ns. Not CO2 emissions.


nwtk2007 wrote:
The magnetic north has been moving south for a while now.

http://ngdc.noaa.gov/geomag/GeomagneticPoles.shtml

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