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Dec 8, 2018 23:00:01   #
Sicilianthing
 
PeterS wrote:
I ask because while all the presidents and their spouses were reciting the Apostles Creed Donald and Melania were acting like they were atheists and had no earthly clue what it was. I'm a bit surprised given Trump's love of the church and the sweet Lord Jesus Christ (he said so himself with his own two lips) plus you would think that someone might brief him on how the event was likely to start. I mean hell, you could even see the mouths moving of that fine young Muslim couple Barack and Michelle Obama so you would have thought that Melania and Donald would have given it the ole Christian try. No, they just stared stonely straight ahead while everyone else around them gave it their best while Donald and his wonderful spouse behaved like they were Jewish like Jared and his lovely wife Ivanka. So sad...

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Dec 9, 2018 12:11:16   #
Nickolai
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Only two things come from Oklahoma. Steers and q***rs! You got some horns on your head??

I dated a girl from Muskogee. She was a unique package!





I only lived 9 years of my child hood there y parents moved to California because they could not make a decent living there and if you didn't go to church every Sunday you were of the Devil. There was more freedom in California an plenty of decent paying jobs

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Dec 9, 2018 13:41:40   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Nickolai wrote:
I only lived 9 years of my child hood there y parents moved to California because they could not make a decent living there and if you didn't go to church every Sunday you were of the Devil. There was more freedom in California an plenty of decent paying jobs


You said, "There was more freedom in California." How did all that "freedom" work out for our most perverted state of which you are evidently a glowing example? On the other hand....."O God, who art the author of peace and lover of concord, in knowledge of whom standeth our eternal life, whose service is perfect freedom......." you choose your freedom and we'll choose ours, and never will the twain meet -not even in eternity.

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Dec 9, 2018 13:51:07   #
Rose42
 
padremike wrote:
That's a distinction you've made in your own prejudiced and biased mind in which you have probably condemn we who are Orthodox also. Yet both Churches pray the Nicene Creed in their liturgy every Sunday and you do not. For example, before we can say together, "Our Father" first we have to say, "Credo" - "I" Believe! An affirmation of Who and what we believe together in one Body, the Church.. That Creed was crafted by the early Christian hierarchy because of different and growing heresies and it stated, unequivocably, that these things you must believe to be a Christian. Do you believe, as stated in the Creed, in "one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church?"
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The "Our Father" was a guide on how to pray. That's pretty clear. If one wants to use it as a prayer nothing needs to be said before it.

The Catholic church split from the catholic (Christian) church quite early. There is one Christian church but its got nothing to do with Catholicism.

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Dec 9, 2018 13:57:39   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Rose42 wrote:
The "Our Father" was a guide on how to pray. That's pretty clear. If one wants to use it as a prayer nothing needs to be said before it.

The Catholic church split from the catholic (Christian) church quite early. There is one Christian church but its got nothing to do with Catholicism.


Who is the true body?

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Dec 9, 2018 15:05:02   #
Rose42
 
byronglimish wrote:
Who is the true body?


Of Christians? In a nutshell - those who put their faith and trust in Christ alone for salvation. They obey His word.

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Dec 9, 2018 16:53:42   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Rose42 wrote:
Of Christians? In a nutshell - those who put their faith and trust in Christ alone for salvation. They obey His word.


Thanks, do you have a preference or should I ask, can you name a specific preacher, who you feel is bible based only?

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Dec 9, 2018 17:00:59   #
Rose42
 
byronglimish wrote:
Thanks, do you have a preference or should I ask, can you name a specific preacher, who you feel is bible based only?


Charles Spurgeon, R.C. Sproul, John MacArthur, Ravi Zacharias, Paul Washer and Tim Challies are all ones I like. I can't pick just one.

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Dec 9, 2018 17:24:40   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Rose42 wrote:
Charles Spurgeon, R.C. Sproul, John MacArthur, Ravi Zacharias, Paul Washer and Tim Challies are all ones I like. I can't pick just one.


Do you have an opinion of people like Benny Hinn, Peter Popoff, Earnest Angely, and faith healers of their nature?

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Dec 9, 2018 18:21:36   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Rose42 wrote:
The "Our Father" was a guide on how to pray. That's pretty clear. If one wants to use it as a prayer nothing needs to be said before it.

The Catholic church split from the catholic (Christian) church quite early. There is one Christian church but its got nothing to do with Catholicism.


Odd that you claim that Rome split away from what you call the Church when history accurately records that Luther became schismatic from Rome. Therefore you put yourself out there as being especially suspicious when you claim that Catholics, I suspect you'd include us Orthodox too, are not part of "your" interpretation of the Christian faith and evidently what you call the Church. I was led to believed the Lord, not you, was the Shepherd of His one flock (John 10:16). When people ask "what church do you go to?" this question really means what denomination are you affiliated with? The words "church" and "denomination" are used inter-changeably, as if they both meant the same thing. They don't! A denomination is an administrative fragment which contradicts Biblical t***h. There may be many denominations but the Bible makes it plain that there is only one Church and you do not possess the knowledge, authority, and love of Christ to say who is not incorporated into that One Church. You do, however, spend an inordinate amount of time damning those who, in your personal "opinion" are not welcome and cannot belong.

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Dec 9, 2018 18:52:42   #
Rose42
 
padremike wrote:
Odd that you claim that Rome split away from what you call the Church when history accurately records that Luther became schismatic from Rome.


Luther and others exposed a lot of Catholic false doctrine. There were those who criticized it before him, he just brought it into prominence. In response to the Reformation the Catholics added 6 more books to the Bible in an effort to justify that false doctrine.

The Catholic church believes a perfect God didn't give us everything we needed in His word even though He tells us His word is perfect. For example, Mary's mythical ascension wasn't "proclaimed" until 1854. Reading Catholic fabricated dogma on Mary is an eye opener into how Satan operates. The Mormons too have taken one verse and use that in their claim Jesus went to America.

Here's a chronological list of some of the lies of the Catholic church -
https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-147250-1.html

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There may be many denominations but the Bible makes it plain that there is only one Church and you do not possess the knowledge, authority, and love of Christ to say who is not incorporated into that One Church. You do, however, spend an inordinate amount of time damning those who, in your personal "opinion" are not welcome and cannot belong.


Yes the Bible is very plain in many things that you choose to ignore. It's abundantly clear that the one church is not Catholic. You have no more authority than anyone else. You certainly have no authority when you follow false doctrine. Even Peter never put himself above anyone else. The entire Catholic clergy system isn't even Biblical.

You don't know anyone's heart. Its quite arrogant and p***eful of you to say someone doesn't possess the love of Christ.

I damn no one but I am critical of false doctrine. I also have never once said no one was welcome. That speaks to a lack of integrity on your part that you have so often tried to twist people's words. I want everyone to be Christian no matter what they've done.

As to the Catholic "unity", Muslims and Mormons have unity too and they also follow false doctrine.

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Dec 9, 2018 19:11:57   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Rose42 wrote:
Yes the Bible is very plain in many things that you choose to ignore. It's abundantly clear that the one church is not Catholic. You have no more authority than anyone else. You certainly have no authority when you follow false doctrine. Even Peter never put himself above anyone else. The entire Catholic clergy system isn't even Biblical.

You don't know anyone's heart. Its quite arrogant and p***eful of you to say someone doesn't possess the love of Christ.

I damn no one but I am critical of false doctrine. I also have never once said no one was welcome. That speaks to a lack of integrity on your part that you have so often tried to twist people's words. I want everyone to be Christian no matter what they've done.

As to the Catholic "unity", Muslims and Mormons have unity too and they also follow false doctrine.
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The one thing I was absolutely confident in was that you had neither the grace nor the wisdom to simply shut up for a change. If you were really wise you'd realize that every time you open your mouth your h**eful heart is on display and it takes little discernment to read. You disgrace the very meaning and purpose of being Christian.

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Dec 9, 2018 19:28:26   #
Rose42
 
padremike wrote:
The one thing I was absolutely confident in was that you had neither the grace nor the wisdom to simply shut up for a change. If you were really wise you'd realize that every time you open your mouth your h**eful heart is on display and it takes little discernment to read. You disgrace the very meaning and purpose of being Christian.


You're a hypocrite Padre. Pure and simple. You try and be witty because you can never defend your false doctrine and consistently take cheap shots at others when they have never done so to you. It's a well established pattern of yours which shows neither grace nor wisdom you speak of and certainly no love. Your p***e doesn't let you see the large log in your eye.

H**eful heart? You are the one who thinks some don't have the love of Christ. You are the one who has so very often called others stupid and non-thinkers among other things. Is that your display of love? You've done it so many times. It's interesting you presume to lecture others about h**eful hearts when they attack doctrine not people. There's a big difference.

You can pretend anything to others but there is one who knows your true heart.

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Dec 9, 2018 19:41:19   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Rose42 wrote:
You try and be witty because you can never defend your false doctrine and consistently take cheap shots at others when they have never done so to you. It's a well established pattern of yours. You don't recognize the large log in your eye.

H**eful heart? You are the one who thinks some don't have the love of Christ. It's sure not a love of Christ that would compel someone to say that.


You confuse wit with disdain. You further confuse cheap shots with T***h. You are confused with doctrine because your own is false and contentious within your thousands of different denominations. You folks cannot even agree on the matter, purpose, form and indelibly of something as basic as baptism.

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Dec 9, 2018 19:53:55   #
Rose42
 
padremike wrote:
You confuse wit with disdain. You further confuse cheap shots with T***h. You are confused with doctrine because your own is false and contentious within your thousands of different denominations. You folks cannot even agree on the matter, purpose, form and indelibly of something as basic as baptism.


No I don't confuse them. You have no t***h to offer padre - you have a long history of taking cheap shots at people because you can't refute what they say. I have no disdain or h**e for you only sorrow that you can't/won't see the t***h and instead promote lies.

The number of denominations are irrelevant. I'm not confused at all. Unity in belief such as what it takes to be saved doesn't equate to uniformity of expression. There are some differences that are heretical but man's nature is wicked. Unity in false doctrine - something Mormons and Muslims share with Catholics - is not a strength.

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