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Dec 7, 2018 19:03:10   #
kemmer
 
JFlorio wrote:
So while I’m watching the news and typing on my phone I had a MSP. Good catch troll. Maybe you’ll get an increase in troll wages. Yes, you’re still ignorant.

The arrest of the Huawei CFO is NOT going to help Trump’s trade war with China, as American soybeans collect with no buyers.

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Dec 7, 2018 19:11:21   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
We do have buyers genius. Biggest problem was a bumper crop. Brings prices down. That CFO needed arrested. We need to quit being owned by China. They need our dollars worse than we need their cheap crap. Take sides with America for a change.
kemmer wrote:
The arrest of the Huawei CFO is NOT going to help Trump’s trade war with China, as American soybeans collect with no buyers.

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Dec 7, 2018 19:23:52   #
woodguru
 
JFlorio wrote:
We do have buyers genius. Biggest problem was a bumper crop. Brings prices down. That CFO needed arrested. We need to quit being owned by China. They need our dollars worse than we need their cheap crap. Take sides with America for a change.


You called me ignorant?

China turned it's back on US soy, turns out soy is grown in other countries...imagine that.

Trump needs to start floating ideas, and exploring cause and effect before tweeting his way into policies he doesn't have a clue about.

Discussing policies and cause and effect has nothing to do with taking sides, an idiot is an idiot no matter which side they are on.

The idiot tweeted that he was going to have a truce with China...boom...the market rallies...he tweets he's the tariff man...boom...the market crashes with the biggest one day drop in history. And Trump can't figure out that he needs to keep a lock on that tweeter thing?

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Dec 7, 2018 19:56:35   #
nwtk2007
 
woodguru wrote:
You called me ignorant?

China turned it's back on US soy, turns out soy is grown in other countries...imagine that.

Trump needs to start floating ideas, and exploring cause and effect before tweeting his way into policies he doesn't have a clue about.

Discussing policies and cause and effect has nothing to do with taking sides, an idiot is an idiot no matter which side they are on.

The idiot tweeted that he was going to have a truce with China...boom...the market rallies...he tweets he's the tariff man...boom...the market crashes with the biggest one day drop in history. And Trump can't figure out that he needs to keep a lock on that tweeter thing?
You called me ignorant? br br China turned it's b... (show quote)


Just for the soy, the Chinese will be back. We just have to hold out. They are counting on the anti-Trumps and the leftists forcing us to give in and getting us to let them win this thing! Remember that!

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Dec 7, 2018 20:04:16   #
woodguru
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Just for the soy, the Chinese will be back. We just have to hold out. They are counting on the anti-Trumps and the leftists forcing us to give in and getting us to let them win this thing! Remember that!


Leftists don't care, this isn't about winning anything, it's about intelligent trade policies and tariffs...something that is never going to happen under Trump.

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Dec 7, 2018 20:18:07   #
nwtk2007
 
woodguru wrote:
Leftists don't care, this isn't about winning anything, it's about intelligent trade policies and tariffs...something that is never going to happen under Trump.


I disagree totally. It's about winning and getting trade on even ground without the Chinese taking advantage of us and STEALING from us. 75% or more of their technology was stolen from us be them reverse engineering our "stuff."

They know the anti-Trumps want him to lose and they know they will complain and try to force him to back off and give in to their continued BS. They know it and YOU know it as well. It's the only logical conclusion. But Trump holds the power and he will not give in. That is what the leftist/anti-Trumps need to take into account. This is for the USA and they need to get on board and help. Trump will NOT let them reverse this course. AT ALL. By the time you anti-Trumps finally get to him and put on enough pressure to get him out, he will have won and so will the USA!

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Dec 7, 2018 20:47:25   #
woodguru
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I disagree totally. It's about winning and getting trade on even ground without the Chinese taking advantage of us and STEALING from us. 75% or more of their technology was stolen from us be them reverse engineering our "stuff."

They know the anti-Trumps want him to lose and they know they will complain and try to force him to back off and give in to their continued BS. They know it and YOU know it as well. It's the only logical conclusion. But Trump holds the power and he will not give in. That is what the leftist/anti-Trumps need to take into account. This is for the USA and they need to get on board and help. Trump will NOT let them reverse this course. AT ALL. By the time you anti-Trumps finally get to him and put on enough pressure to get him out, he will have won and so will the USA!
I disagree totally. It's about winning and gettin... (show quote)


Tariffs have to be done industry by industry, even up ones that have us at a disadvantage, leave the ones alone that are okay, which many are.

Obama came into office trying to fix the solar industry that the Bush administration gave to China.

Trump has a major error in his understanding of trade imbalances, they are not a zero sum equation, it is okay for one country to be exporting twice as much to another country as they export to them. What is not okay is subsidizing industries to create an unfair playing field.

Trump could, and should have looked at tariffs on US corporations manufacturing in china, make them come back

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Dec 7, 2018 20:52:56   #
emarine
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I disagree totally. It's about winning and getting trade on even ground without the Chinese taking advantage of us and STEALING from us. 75% or more of their technology was stolen from us be them reverse engineering our "stuff."

They know the anti-Trumps want him to lose and they know they will complain and try to force him to back off and give in to their continued BS. They know it and YOU know it as well. It's the only logical conclusion. But Trump holds the power and he will not give in. That is what the leftist/anti-Trumps need to take into account. This is for the USA and they need to get on board and help. Trump will NOT let them reverse this course. AT ALL. By the time you anti-Trumps finally get to him and put on enough pressure to get him out, he will have won and so will the USA!
I disagree totally. It's about winning and gettin... (show quote)





This argument can go round after round with no real conclusion... Now ask yourself this question... why does Trump continue to manufacture in China when asking others to move back here?... question 2... why is China & Russia shorting sell our T bonds for gold?...the correct answer will tell the true story of our American President...

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Dec 7, 2018 20:57:22   #
woodguru
 
emarine wrote:
This argument can go round after round with no real conclusion... Now ask yourself this question... why does Trump continue to manufacture in China when asking others to move back here?... question 2... why is China & Russia shorting sell our T bonds for gold?...the correct answer will tell the true story of our American President...


Obama actually got China to back off of destabilizing the dollar calling in gold, I'm not sure what was behind the scenes as a threat, but some agreement was arrived at.

Trump would have no clue about the fact that both China and Russia would love to destabilize the US and have the world basing currency on theirs. There was a lot going on during Obama's administration.

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Dec 7, 2018 22:33:58   #
emarine
 
woodguru wrote:
Obama actually got China to back off of destabilizing the dollar calling in gold, I'm not sure what was behind the scenes as a threat, but some agreement was arrived at.

Trump would have no clue about the fact that both China and Russia would love to destabilize the US and have the world basing currency on theirs. There was a lot going on during Obama's administration.




very true... a lot going on to say the least... why did oil drop by 2/3 just after Russia & China made a big energy deal shorting Putin's economy & shoot back up when Trump was elected?

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Dec 7, 2018 23:21:22   #
trucksterbud
 
Kevyn wrote:
The Pumpkinfuhrers Chinese evidently isn’t very good as China’s take of the Pumpkinfuhrers great tariff deal is vastly different than his fake reality. The Dow is in the crapper by 800 points in its worse day in years as a result and the S&P also suffered huge losses. Add to this the GM plant closures and soybean crops rotting in the fields to round out the effects of Trumps ignorance about the world economy. It is too bad he didn’t stick to swindling gullible real estate investors.


You apparently know nothing about the stock market Kevvy.

People who invest in the stockmarket - REALISTICALLY - expect ups and downs... 800 points is a burp.... little kids like you think the sky is falling...

You apparently didn't see all the articles and stories on the internet about China now coming around and wanting to deal, did you Kevvy..??

You apparently missed the story coming back out of the G-20 summit in Argentina did ya Kevvy…??? About the Chinese now willing to buy $$$Billions$$$ of American goods....

GM plant closures are due to the demographics of the American buying public shifting to 4-door pickups and SUV's. Didn't see that one did ya Kevvy…??

Soybean crops rotting in the fields..?? Well, we did sell several million tons to Europe (thanks to Trump) but China did balk about the soybeans. Strangely, Kevvy, the Chinese are now back at the bargaining table. Didn't see that one did ya Kevvy…???

All I can ask about now, is , which part of grandma's basement do you live in....????

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Dec 8, 2018 00:47:35   #
kemmer
 
trucksterbud wrote:
You apparently know nothing about the stock market Kevvy.

People who invest in the stockmarket - REALISTICALLY - expect ups and downs... 800 points is a burp.... little kids like you think the sky is falling...

You apparently didn't see all the articles and stories on the internet about China now coming around and wanting to deal, did you Kevvy..??

You apparently missed the story coming back out of the G-20 summit in Argentina did ya Kevvy…??? About the Chinese now willing to buy $$$Billions$$$ of American goods....

GM plant closures are due to the demographics of the American buying public shifting to 4-door pickups and SUV's. Didn't see that one did ya Kevvy…??

Soybean crops rotting in the fields..?? Well, we did sell several million tons to Europe (thanks to Trump) but China did balk about the soybeans. Strangely, Kevvy, the Chinese are now back at the bargaining table. Didn't see that one did ya Kevvy…???
With the arrest of China's Huawei CFO, we're back to square one. After today's Mueller filings, Trump's got a lot more to worry about than trade with China.

All I can ask about now, is , which part of grandma's basement do you live in....????
You apparently know nothing about the stock market... (show quote)

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