Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Better after November.

son of witless

Demogedden.

Seth

But again, part of what I was referring to earlier is also geography related. Let's say Obama HAD created inroads/retraining/etc to refield coal workers.

Most of these mining towns, as I said, are not big attractions for new home buyers, and local industries are most often staffed from same family members from one generation to the next.

What is the likelihood that these new fields unrelated to the coal business, will be started up in these same towns? Was Obama planning on starting "go fund me" pages to buy these folks' houses from them and get them relocated? Doubtful.

Having already seen how things work under Democrats, it would likely be implemented as "Hey, West Virginia guy, don't fret! We have a great new opportunity for you, retraining and an entry level position at a place in west central Minnesota. Apply now at xzxzxzx.gov!"

JoyV

Built with American steel. Maintenance alone won't keep a bridge up for a century if the steel is weak. You need good materials, good engineering, and regular maintenance.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

JoyV

If cost were not a factor, what carbon source would work better than coal to make high quality steel? It must be in quantities large enough to run steel mills across the nation.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Even a broken clock is right twice a day!

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

Majority of regulations are taxes in disquise. Which is why every instance of "Over Regulation" has the lefts finger prints.
It was Obama that said we would pay more for electric. Just as soon as Obama turned the keys over to Hillary, solar, wind would no longer be subvented with government payouts once our oil fields were on lock down. In the absence of viable technology to drive clean energy or funded by grants, the energy companies would have no choice but to double, triple usage costs onto the consumer.
Are you aware nearly a thousand damns were destroyed under Obama? These i***ts were really going to cripple Americans pocket books to fulfill their own agenda.

zillaorange

Not predicting the end of the world ! Suggesting there's more going on than we're being told about. Geologically.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Industrie has been working on the process for a long time..

this is a good article on the effort, but a bit long to post.. follow the link for a better explanation..

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cleaner-cheaper-way-to-make-steel-uses-electricity/

Cleaner, Cheaper Way to Make Steel Uses Electricity
Making steel in a similar way to aluminum is cheaper and reduces greenhouse gas emissions

The fires that smelt iron also heat up the planet, but researchers are working on ways to produce higher-quality metals with fewer greenhouse gas emissions, potentially giving U.S. steelmakers an edge in a competitive global market.

A report released yesterday in the journal Nature highlights a step in this direction that uses electricity instead of heat to extract iron.

With thousands of years of development and two centuries of industrialization, making iron and steel is a mature process around the world. In 2011, manufacturers produced around 100 billion metric tons of iron globally.

From mining ores to smelting to tempering alloys, the process is energy intensive, and engineers have chased improvements about as long as steel has topped axes, formed armor and driven machinery.

"What that means is that the majority of low-h*****g fruit have been picked and the processes we have to make [metals] are nearing the limits of what is physically possible," explained Lawrence Kavanagh, president of the Steel Market Development Institute.

Though iron is the most common element in the Earth's crust, it is usually in the form of an ore. Conventional processing methods use a high-temperature blast furnace to heat the iron ore and other compounds to remove oxygen and yield a desired alloy, a method that creates a lot of carbon dioxide, according to a report last year from U.S. EPA on greenhouse gas emissions from the iron and steel sector.

Discovery of an inexpensive anode
"For Integrated steelmaking, the primary sources of GHG emissions are blast furnace stoves (43 percent), miscellaneous combustion sources burning natural gas and process gases (30 percent), other process units (15 percent) and indirect emissions from electricity usage (12 percent)," the report said, estimating that the U.S. steel industry produced 117 million tons of carbon dioxide in 2010.

JoyV

There is no carbon in electricity. This article is about the energy used to make steel, not the materials other than iron. You cannot turn iron into steel without carbon!!!! And eliminating "contaminants" does NOT make a better quality steel. The reason trace amounts of other materials is added has nothing to do with energy usage. These are added on purpose to create different types of steel for different usage. Even in the iron age when steel was hammered by hand this was known. Smiths kept their formulas secret. The formula for the original Damascus steel was only ferreted out after we had modern machines for analysis. It was the secret contaminants used which made Damascus steel unique.

My question to you was that if cost was not a factor, what carbon source would work as well as coal?

CARBON! Not ENERGY!

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

Materials used back then were the finest available. Now companies use the cheapest material like scrap iron instead of. Better grade iron ore profith is the bottom line now not quality
.

China steel is cheaped but not as good as American steel. Price allows the government to make more profit on imported steel shat wsy.

You get what you pay fot.

JoyV

Too true!

Nickolai

Not true Republican policies always produce a spurt followed by a crash. The facts of the matter is that over the last 85 years by every measure the nation has been better off when Democrats are in the drivers seat. Economic growth, jobs, stock market . You could look it up Republicans produce diddly doo

Nickolai

https://youtu.be/fkdvHo6tYM4
The guy is a lying scum bag Here in 1984 in a phone call to Jonathan Greenberg of Forbes he pretends to by a P.R. guy named John Baron extolling how great and rich Trump was in an effort to get on Forbes list of 400 billionaires He has always lied about how much he is worth