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Oct 20, 2018 07:07:15   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
son of witless wrote:
We just got back from a winery and I am drinking moonshine and you almost sound like a normal human being. Obamacare yea that's the ticket.


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/republican-doublespeak-health-care-starts-140011204.html

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Oct 20, 2018 08:29:17   #
Seth
 
old marine wrote:
I have never heard of anyone being able to drink 180 proof pure grain alcohol. But anything is possiable in today's world.


You've never heard of Everclear?

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Oct 20, 2018 08:34:08   #
son of witless
 
old marine wrote:
Alchohol from grain is drinkable but rubbing alcohol is not and will k**l you if you drink it.


I know that. I was referring to the taste. I actually feel pretty good this morning after so either I did not have that much or it was a god batch.

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Oct 20, 2018 08:37:22   #
son of witless
 


Republican doublespeak. Coming from a Democrat that is mildly amusing. Oh wait you isn't a Democrat, just a Rino. To me if you walk and quack like a duck, you is a duck.

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Oct 21, 2018 19:04:18   #
Geo
 
McConnell eyes cuts to Medicare, Social Security to address deficit
10/16/18 12:41 PM
By Steve Benen
Nearly a year ago, as the debate over Republican tax breaks for the wealthy was near its end, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) insisted that the tax cuts didn’t need to be paid for – because they’d pay for themselves.

“I not only don’t think it will increase the deficit, I think it will be beyond revenue neutral,” McConnell said in December 2017. “In other words, I think it will produce more than enough to fill that gap.”

Whether the GOP leader actually believed his own rhetoric is an open question, but either way, we now know the Kentucky senator’s claim was spectacularly wrong. The Republican tax breaks have, as Democrats and those familiar with arithmetic predicted, sent the nation’s budget deficit soaring.

Take a wild guess what McConnell told Bloomberg News he wants to do about it.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Tuesday blamed rising federal deficits and debt on a bipartisan unwillingness to contain spending on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, and said he sees little chance of a major deficit reduction deal while Republicans control Congress and the White House.

“It’s disappointing but it’s not a Republican problem,” McConnell said in an interview with Bloomberg News when asked about the rising deficits and debt. “It’s a bipartisan problem: Unwillingness to address the real drivers of the debt by doing anything to adjust those programs to the demographics of America in the future.”

He added that he believes “Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid” funding constitutes “the real driver of the debt.”

Before we get into the broader implications of McConnell’s argument, it’s important to understand that we already know it’s the Republicans’ tax breaks for the rich that have made the deficit vastly larger. When McConnell calls the increased federal borrowing “very disturbing,” as he did this morning, it’s like watching an arsonist wring his hands over the ashes he created.

The Senate GOP leader helped create this mess; he hasn’t earned the right to complain about it.


But these relevant details are really only part of the larger issue. During the debate over the Republican tax package, Democrats made a fairly obvious prediction: GOP policymakers would blow a giant hole in the budget and then use the shortfall as an excuse to target social-insurance programs like Medicare and Social Security (often referred to as “entitlements”).

That is, of course, exactly what’s happening.

Larry Kudlow, the director of the Trump White House’s National Economic Council, recently said he wants to take aim at “entitlements” as early as “next year.” A few months earlier, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said he wants to see policymakers bring the budget closer to balance by cutting “entitlements.” Rep. Steve Stivers (R-Ohio), who currently chairs the National Republican Congressional Committee, made the same argument in August.

And now Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is making the identical pitch.

The e******n season has ushered in a head-spinning debate over which party truly supports pillars of modern American life such as Medicare and Social Security. Donald Trump has repeatedly said, reality be damned, v**ers should look to Republicans as the champions of these programs.

“We’re saving Social Security; the Democrats will destroy Social Security,” the president inexplicably insisted last month. “We’re saving Medicare; the Democrats want to destroy Medicare.”

But looking past Trump’s bizarre nonsense, leading Republican officials – from the White House, the Senate, and the U.S. House – keep admitting that they’re eager to cut programs like Medicare and Social Security. Maybe the public should believe them.

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Oct 22, 2018 08:24:15   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Geo wrote:
McConnell eyes cuts to Medicare, Social Security to address deficit
10/16/18 12:41 PM
By Steve Benen
Nearly a year ago, as the debate over Republican tax breaks for the wealthy was near its end, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) insisted that the tax cuts didn’t need to be paid for – because they’d pay for themselves.

“I not only don’t think it will increase the deficit, I think it will be beyond revenue neutral,” McConnell said in December 2017. “In other words, I think it will produce more than enough to fill that gap.”

Whether the GOP leader actually believed his own rhetoric is an open question, but either way, we now know the Kentucky senator’s claim was spectacularly wrong. The Republican tax breaks have, as Democrats and those familiar with arithmetic predicted, sent the nation’s budget deficit soaring.

Take a wild guess what McConnell told Bloomberg News he wants to do about it.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Tuesday blamed rising federal deficits and debt on a bipartisan unwillingness to contain spending on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, and said he sees little chance of a major deficit reduction deal while Republicans control Congress and the White House.

“It’s disappointing but it’s not a Republican problem,” McConnell said in an interview with Bloomberg News when asked about the rising deficits and debt. “It’s a bipartisan problem: Unwillingness to address the real drivers of the debt by doing anything to adjust those programs to the demographics of America in the future.”

He added that he believes “Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid” funding constitutes “the real driver of the debt.”

Before we get into the broader implications of McConnell’s argument, it’s important to understand that we already know it’s the Republicans’ tax breaks for the rich that have made the deficit vastly larger. When McConnell calls the increased federal borrowing “very disturbing,” as he did this morning, it’s like watching an arsonist wring his hands over the ashes he created.

The Senate GOP leader helped create this mess; he hasn’t earned the right to complain about it.


But these relevant details are really only part of the larger issue. During the debate over the Republican tax package, Democrats made a fairly obvious prediction: GOP policymakers would blow a giant hole in the budget and then use the shortfall as an excuse to target social-insurance programs like Medicare and Social Security (often referred to as “entitlements”).

That is, of course, exactly what’s happening.

Larry Kudlow, the director of the Trump White House’s National Economic Council, recently said he wants to take aim at “entitlements” as early as “next year.” A few months earlier, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said he wants to see policymakers bring the budget closer to balance by cutting “entitlements.” Rep. Steve Stivers (R-Ohio), who currently chairs the National Republican Congressional Committee, made the same argument in August.

And now Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is making the identical pitch.

The e******n season has ushered in a head-spinning debate over which party truly supports pillars of modern American life such as Medicare and Social Security. Donald Trump has repeatedly said, reality be damned, v**ers should look to Republicans as the champions of these programs.

“We’re saving Social Security; the Democrats will destroy Social Security,” the president inexplicably insisted last month. “We’re saving Medicare; the Democrats want to destroy Medicare.”

But looking past Trump’s bizarre nonsense, leading Republican officials – from the White House, the Senate, and the U.S. House – keep admitting that they’re eager to cut programs like Medicare and Social Security. Maybe the public should believe them.
McConnell eyes cuts to Medicare, Social Security t... (show quote)


I'm not a fan of Mitch but I'd like to see a link to what you've written !

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Oct 22, 2018 10:18:29   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
4430 wrote:
I'm not a fan of Mitch but I'd like to see a link to what you've written !


That would be like committing suicide for the Republicans. It's the damn Socialist Democrats that h**e Americans and destroy it take over what we have built.

Over a lot of loyal American Patriots dead bodies maybe.

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Oct 22, 2018 11:26:22   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
4430 wrote:
I'm not a fan of Mitch but I'd like to see a link to what you've written !


https://www.newsweek.com/deficit-budget-tax-plan-social-security-medicaid-medicare-entitlement-1172941

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Oct 22, 2018 19:50:20   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
permafrost wrote:
https://www.newsweek.com/deficit-budget-tax-plan-social-security-medicaid-medicare-entitlement-1172941


Thanks perm !

For a long time the Demo's have call SS an entitlement now Mitch the rat is saying it too !

SS was forced on us and we have been made to pay into it which I've done since I believe it was in 1965 and even though I waited till I was 70 to take mine I still have to pay into it as I'm still farming so were do these i***ts get the idea that it is an entitlement is beyond me !

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Oct 23, 2018 08:53:26   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
4430 wrote:
Thanks perm !

For a long time the Demo's have call SS an entitlement now Mitch the rat is saying it too !

SS was forced on us and we have been made to pay into it which I've done since I believe it was in 1965 and even though I waited till I was 70 to take mine I still have to pay into it as I'm still farming so were do these i***ts get the idea that it is an entitlement is beyond me !


For a long time the Democrats have always twisted things around.

SSI, Supplement Security Income is not an entitlement, it is a free welfare program just like Medicaide.

An entitlement is a program you pay into to get a return later in life. Social Security, Medicare, military retirement, other retirement plans one pays into is an ENTITLEMENT.

CUT WELEFARE not entitlements we have or still are paying for.

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Oct 23, 2018 08:54:59   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
old marine wrote:
For a long time the Democrats have always twisted things around.

SSI, Supplement Security Income is not an entitlement, it is a free welfare program just like Medicaide.

An entitlement is a program you pay into to get a return later in life. Social Security, Medicare, military retirement, other retirement plans one pays into is an ENTITLEMENT.

CUT WELEFARE not entitlements we have or still are paying for.



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Oct 23, 2018 09:27:02   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
old marine wrote:
For a long time the Democrats have always twisted things around.

SSI, Supplement Security Income is not an entitlement, it is a free welfare program just like Medicaide.

An entitlement is a program you pay into to get a return later in life. Social Security, Medicare, military retirement, other retirement plans one pays into is an ENTITLEMENT.

CUT WELEFARE not entitlements we have or still are paying for.


I believe that SSI, Supplement Security Income was at first meant for the lazy folks that would rather live it up and not save and plan for the golden yrs thus they forced us who were thinking about our retirement yrs and planned accordingly .

I am now collecting the money I was forces to pay into all these years and to me these monthly checks is not an entitlement it's my money and I have a right to it !

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Oct 23, 2018 19:34:49   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
4430 wrote:
I believe that SSI, Supplement Security Income was at first meant for the lazy folks that would rather live it up and not save and plan for the golden yrs thus they forced us who were thinking about our retirement yrs and planned accordingly .

I am now collecting the money I was forces to pay into all these years and to me these monthly checks is not an entitlement it's my money and I have a right to it !


The Socialist Democrats mis-label things.

Entitlements is something you are entitled to. Same as military Retirement, Railroad Retirement, Social Security are all retirements one has paid into for their old age. They are entitled to collect it.

SSI or Suppliment Security Income, is strictly a welfare program started in 1965 by Democtat President Johnson to get the poor man's v**e.

It is borrowed from the Social Security Trust fund and never paid back. Only worthless IOU to balance the books. The general fund has borrowed over 14 Trillion Dollars so far.

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Oct 23, 2018 20:48:10   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
old marine wrote:
The Socialist Democrats mis-label things.

Entitlements is something you are entitled to. Same as military Retirement, Railroad Retirement, Social Security are all retirements one has paid into for their old age. They are entitled to collect it.

SSI or Suppliment Security Income, is strictly a welfare program started in 1965 by Democtat President Johnson to get the poor man's v**e.

It is borrowed from the Social Security Trust fund and never paid back. Only worthless IOU to balance the books. The general fund has borrowed over 14 Trillion Dollars so far.
The Socialist Democrats mis-label things. br br ... (show quote)




Image result for funding for SSI
There are strict income requirements to qualify for SSI benefits. Even though the Social Security Administration administers the payments, the funds for SSI come from US Treasury General Funds. This general revenue comes from the income taxes we pay.
How Are SSI Benefits Funded? - Disability Benefits Center
https://www.disabilitybenefitscenter.org/faq/how-is-ssi-funded


You are right that it is a form of welfare, funding is from the gerneral fund.. However, i think that in the great recessioin, congress had to borrow from the SS fund to cover the SSI costs..

Or they were debated doing so..

But it was crated via our good freind Richard Nixon..


President Nixon signed the Social Security Amendments of 1972 on October 30, 1972 which created the SSI Program. The SSI program officially began operations in January 1974 by federalizing states' programs, designating the Social Security Administration (SSA) to administer the SSI program.
Supplemental Security Income - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supplemental_Security_Income

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