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Oct 15, 2018 12:07:03   #
JediKnight
 
permafrost wrote:
I am glad to see that you do not watch the right wing h**e media.. that is a move in a good direction..

County-based??? what the heck do counties have todo with national e******ns??

do you realize the the h**e aimed at the "g****r bathroom issue" is nothing more then a distortion of a letter listing recommended actions IF a g****r issue came about in a school?

we have no law, unless a local one, which requires the things your average right winger fight so hard about..

If you know of a law for any of this pleas post a link or source..

Open border were in effect when my grand parents came to this country.. around the turn of the 20th century..

This was changed in the 1920s and has remained heavy regulated to the present time..

the BP is the largest law enforcement group in the nation..

What do you know about ICE??? do you favor smaller government? would you like to reduce duplicity of agencies?

Then ICE would be worth a hard look for reduction, even removal..

let me know about your view on that idea.. are you a real conservative or only a person looking for a way to get you way and none other?
I am glad to see that you do not watch the right w... (show quote)


Permafrost for President 2020!!!

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Oct 15, 2018 12:07:52   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
JediKnight wrote:
Debeda: you wrote: "I heartily resent news sources that push a narrative instead of informing me, and make statements that "everyone" feels a certain way or "everyone" is upset."// What do you say when every time Trump is pushing something he says, "everyone is saying.... or everyone is talking about...." Once again, for every thing you are "unhappy" about - there is equal "unhappiness" being presented by Trump and this current group of republicans. Just because one claims to be "a stable genius, and the "only one" who can fix it" doesn't make it true. You say you resent news sources who "push a narrative" - do you feel that way about Fox and Breitbart and those right wing outlets that push THEIR narratives?
Debeda: you wrote: "I heartily resent news so... (show quote)


Great interview

Trump defends policies in contentious 60 Minutes interview
https://youtu.be/kjshyZlgyhY

Lesley Stahl on what it's like to interview Trump
https://youtu.be/Nwhu950t0y4

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Oct 15, 2018 12:22:35   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JediKnight wrote:
Permafrost for President 2020!!!




HA HA HA,,, Thanks Mom.....

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Oct 15, 2018 12:53:53   #
debeda
 
JediKnight wrote:
Debeda: you wrote: "I heartily resent news sources that push a narrative instead of informing me, and make statements that "everyone" feels a certain way or "everyone" is upset."// What do you say when every time Trump is pushing something he says, "everyone is saying.... or everyone is talking about...." Once again, for every thing you are "unhappy" about - there is equal "unhappiness" being presented by Trump and this current group of republicans. Just because one claims to be "a stable genius, and the "only one" who can fix it" doesn't make it true. You say you resent news sources who "push a narrative" - do you feel that way about Fox and Breitbart and those right wing outlets that push THEIR narratives?
Debeda: you wrote: "I heartily resent news so... (show quote)


Silly a$$ . The news is supposed to INFORM. They don't. They spout propaganda

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Oct 15, 2018 12:57:46   #
debeda
 
JediKnight wrote:
Debeda: you wrote: "I heartily resent news sources that push a narrative instead of informing me, and make statements that "everyone" feels a certain way or "everyone" is upset."// What do you say when every time Trump is pushing something he says, "everyone is saying.... or everyone is talking about...." Once again, for every thing you are "unhappy" about - there is equal "unhappiness" being presented by Trump and this current group of republicans. Just because one claims to be "a stable genius, and the "only one" who can fix it" doesn't make it true. You say you resent news sources who "push a narrative" - do you feel that way about Fox and Breitbart and those right wing outlets that push THEIR narratives?
Debeda: you wrote: "I heartily resent news so... (show quote)


And yes, I resent ANY purported news source that push a narrative. Makes it a pain in the butt to listen to differing views to try to get to the t***h of a matter.

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Oct 15, 2018 13:01:25   #
Owl32 Loc: ARK
 
In planed society only stagnation exist there is no plan for new ideas, capitalism where competition exist is where man progresses and new ideas and inventions occur, only in these conditions does plenty exist in Socialism everything is in a finite supply, never enough and the poor and weak and disabled never receive their fair share. So think about it, look at the result of 60 years of Democract rule in our large cities, the decay, the decadence, lost families. Look around the world where there is lack food and health care chronically, they are socialist nations. Donot come back Northern Europe they may have social programs the business is capitalist and growth exist, discovery exist.
JediKnight wrote:
I don't know what post you are responding too....I never said anything about Socialist garbage -which is also just your opinion. What is your problem with socialist -are their beliefs that much different from republicans, democrats or independents? What I wrote about is "your ability to use your mind to decide which candidate (platform) you choose to support and then v****g your choice.....I don't see anything "socialist" about that.

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Oct 15, 2018 13:10:27   #
debeda
 
Owl32 wrote:
In planed society only stagnation exist there is no plan for new ideas, capitalism where competition exist is where man progresses and new ideas and inventions occur, only in these conditions does plenty exist in Socialism everything is in a finite supply, never enough and the poor and weak and disabled never receive their fair share. So think about it, look at the result of 60 years of Democract rule in our large cities, the decay, the decadence, lost families. Look around the world where there is lack food and health care chronically, they are socialist nations. Donot come back Northern Europe they may have social programs the business is capitalist and growth exist, discovery exist.
In planed society only stagnation exist there is n... (show quote)


AGREED and AMEN!!!

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Oct 15, 2018 13:27:32   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
permafrost wrote:
Owl,

i have no shame, did you not know that yet?

Of a serous note, and speaking of shame, How can anyone find any good in the so called "accomplishments" of the orange piss ant??

most of his claimed accomplishments are only undoing things like EPA policy to help our nation, even the world.. giving stuff to other rich people.. is that you?

he has done next to nothing to help the average person in anyway..

look for yourself, stop being an echo chamber for right wing h**e radio and media..
Owl, br br i have no shame, did you not know tha... (show quote)


So what did Obama do for the average person? Oh, I forgot he made it hard for some to hold on to their hourly jobs because of his hourly mandate on insurance, and then they had to have two part time jobs just to survive. Those, were many of the so called good jobs that he provided to this country with his policies. Not to mention the many auto dealerships that his auto czar mandated to be forced to close, even if there were no dealerships of similar car manufacture's in the area, which were mostly owned by conservatives and the liberal dealerships were mainly left alone.


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Oct 15, 2018 13:34:45   #
debeda
 
Louie27 wrote:
So what did Obama do for the average person? Oh, I forgot he made it hard for some to hold on to their hourly jobs because of his hourly mandate on insurance, and then they had to have two part time jobs just to survive. Those, were many of the so called good jobs that he provided to this country with his policies. Not to mention the many auto dealerships that his auto czar mandated to be forced to close, even if there were no dealerships of similar car manufacture's in the area, which were mostly owned by conservatives and the liberal dealerships were mainly left alone.

So what did Obama do for the average person? Oh, I... (show quote)


I didn't know about the car dealership thing!!! And yes, Obama took a lot of underserved credit for jobs!!!!

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Oct 15, 2018 13:43:23   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
debeda wrote:
I didn't know about the car dealership thing!!! And yes, Obama took a lot of underserved credit for jobs!!!!


But the progressive's will always say everything he did was for all of the people. The job numbers were the greatest fraud of all time, on the American people besides Obama care.

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Oct 15, 2018 13:59:26   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Louie27 wrote:
So what did Obama do for the average person? Oh, I forgot he made it hard for some to hold on to their hourly jobs because of his hourly mandate on insurance, and then they had to have two part time jobs just to survive. Those, were many of the so called good jobs that he provided to this country with his policies. Not to mention the many auto dealerships that his auto czar mandated to be forced to close, even if there were no dealerships of similar car manufacture's in the area, which were mostly owned by conservatives and the liberal dealerships were mainly left alone.

So what did Obama do for the average person? Oh, I... (show quote)



what a two sided question.. First, most of what he wanted done was for the average person. he was hampered not only by the economic catastrophe but by the obstruction of McConnell and his fellow republicans..

It his my view that President Obama greatest weakness was his belief that a consensus could be formed with the republicans in order to make the nation greater.

he was so mistaken.. even when he proposed a program that had been championed by republicans, they refused flat out when it had his name on it..

But to the point... Do you remember when Obama cut the payroll tax by about 50%?? Bet you do not.. done without much fanfare it was hardly noticed.. But when the limited time expired in about 2 years
I was yelled to the rafters that he had raised taxes.. all the while it was a tax cut for any who drew a paycheck.. Everything was clear, but changed by the right when they got a chance.. just more lying..

the ACA, even though you h**e it, the fact is that the policy was for America, the average were in dire need of a national health program and even many of the republicans made input to the bill.

then refused to v**e for it when needed..

As I favor our world, all of the things President Obama did to protect the environment and better the living conditions for so many of us is a great plus..

these and the work to slow C*****e C****e are great accomplishments and help for all Americans..

Now you cheer for the orange thing.. you yell about his "accomplishment". Never a mention of what you like most..

But as I look at the few thing he has done, they are all for the rich and the huge Corporations. which did not need a thing..

It is clear that the orange cretin is doing nothing that will help the average citizen in America..

You hooray for the tax cuts?? The typical worker got what, $20 to $40 more in the paycheck. temporarily..

Everyone will be paying far more than that in a few years when someone has to pay for all the gift to the rich.. and the soring national debt..



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Oct 15, 2018 16:49:56   #
JediKnight
 
debeda wrote:
Silly a$$ . The news is supposed to INFORM. They don't. They spout propaganda


You must be talking about FOX with the talking heads like Hannity, Carlson and the other incompetent i***ts......right?

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Oct 15, 2018 16:52:11   #
JediKnight
 
permafrost wrote:
what a two sided question.. First, most of what he wanted done was for the average person. he was hampered not only by the economic catastrophe but by the obstruction of McConnell and his fellow republicans..

It his my view that President Obama greatest weakness was his belief that a consensus could be formed with the republicans in order to make the nation greater.

he was so mistaken.. even when he proposed a program that had been championed by republicans, they refused flat out when it had his name on it..

But to the point... Do you remember when Obama cut the payroll tax by about 50%?? Bet you do not.. done without much fanfare it was hardly noticed.. But when the limited time expired in about 2 years
I was yelled to the rafters that he had raised taxes.. all the while it was a tax cut for any who drew a paycheck.. Everything was clear, but changed by the right when they got a chance.. just more lying..

the ACA, even though you h**e it, the fact is that the policy was for America, the average were in dire need of a national health program and even many of the republicans made input to the bill.

then refused to v**e for it when needed..

As I favor our world, all of the things President Obama did to protect the environment and better the living conditions for so many of us is a great plus..

these and the work to slow C*****e C****e are great accomplishments and help for all Americans..

Now you cheer for the orange thing.. you yell about his "accomplishment". Never a mention of what you like most..

But as I look at the few thing he has done, they are all for the rich and the huge Corporations. which did not need a thing..

It is clear that the orange cretin is doing nothing that will help the average citizen in America..

You hooray for the tax cuts?? The typical worker got what, $20 to $40 more in the paycheck. temporarily..

Everyone will be paying far more than that in a few years when someone has to pay for all the gift to the rich.. and the soring national debt..
what a two sided question.. First, most of what he... (show quote)


I have said it before and now will say it again: Permafrost for President 2020!

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Oct 15, 2018 16:56:01   #
Owl32 Loc: ARK
 
that is what Capitalism thrives on. They create their destiny. Their inventions, new ideas are what make our future. This is not the end of the world but instead a another chance to do better. The Dumb F..ks that spent 3 retirements getting and education that either there no need for or they do not pay a living wage, they can not pay their debt need the people they h**e to bale them out, I personally think its their rows to hoe but like their forefathers did.
permafrost wrote:
what a two sided question.. First, most of what he wanted done was for the averge person. he was hampered not only by the economic catastrophe but by the obstruction of McConnell and his fellow republicans..

It his my view that President Obama greatest weakness was his belief that a consensus could be formed with the republicans in order to make the nation greater.

he was so mistaken.. even when he proposed a program that had been championed by republicans, they refused flat out when it had his name on it..

But to the point... Do you remember when Obama cut the payroll tax by about 50%?? Bet you do not.. done without much fanfare it was hardly noticed.. But when the limited time expired in about 2 years
I was yelled to the rafters that he had raised taxes.. all the while it was a tax cut for any who drew a paycheck.. Everything was clear, but changed by the right when they got a chance.. just more lying..

the ACA, even though you h**e it, the fact is that the policy was for America, the average were in dire need of a national health program and even many of the republicans made input to the bill.

then refused to v**e for it when needed..

As I favor our world, all of the things President Obama did to protect the environment and better the living conditions for so many of us is a great plus..

these and the work to slow C*****e C****e are great accomplishments and help for all Americans..

Now you cheer for the orange thing.. you yell about his "accomplishment". Never a mention of what you like most..

But as I look at the few thing he has done, they are all for the rich and the huge Corporations. which did not need a thing..

It is clear that the orange cretin is doing nothing that will help the average citizen in America..

You hooray for the tax cuts?? The typical worker got what, $20 to $40 more in the paycheck. temporarily..

Everyone will be paying far more than that in a few years when someone has to pay for all the gift to the rich.. and the soring national debt..
what a two sided question.. First, most of what he... (show quote)

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Oct 15, 2018 17:12:21   #
JediKnight
 
Louie27 wrote:
But the progressive's will always say everything he did was for all of the people. The job numbers were the greatest fraud of all time, on the American people besides Obama care.


If "Obama Care" is such a great fraud....please explain why your republican senators wanted to scrap it for the nation, but keep it for themselves and their families.......I will wait............just like the whole nation is still waiting for that "great new healthcare plan Trump claimed he had ready to go in 30 days"...........still waiting..........still waiting........hello....anyone out there? Bueller......Bueller......Frye......anyone?

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