Is President Obama a Socialist? (Page 2): Who says the tax system under Clinton was fair? Romney pays what the law allows. Investment money was all ready taxed when it was earned...

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Who says the tax system under Clinton was fair? Romney pays what the law allows. Investment money was all ready taxed when it was earned income, then the profits from that money is taxed at a lower rate. I know you know this so what is your point?

Anigav6969 wrote:

Income redistribution? You mean like trying to rai... (show quote)

petertimber

I am not a teacher and if you need someone to explain an analysis of President Obama then find someone who is willing to accomplish what you have not, cannot or will not take the time and effort to educate yourself and answer your own question. It's obvious for most people with the very simple answer to your question.

Anigav6969

Skyhook wrote:

You are wondering about Obama's ideas of income redistribution while claiming ignorance of one of his most revealing statements to a self-employed, successful, independent American citizen?

Good grief... for just a moment there I thought you were sincere... shame on me, right?

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I have to admit, I'm not familiar with the joe the plumber quote..what can I say.

I stand by what I said about the taxes on the wealthy..I don't believe it's Fair that someone like Romney ( he is just the example) pays 14%, while the rest of us pay over 30 % ...is that terrible to consider ??

As for the healthcare here in the U.S. being too good...that is only for some...there was so much wrong with the healthcare here..the fact that a child can get a rare form of cancer and the family would go bankrupt trying to help her is just morally wrong...examples like this were happening across this country...where are all the Christians???
I am no huge Obama supporter..I've said many times, all of these politicians are bought and paid for..and something had to be done about the health care system...

Anigav6969

JFlorio wrote:

Who says the tax system under Clinton was fair? Romney pays what the law allows. Investment money was all ready taxed when it was earned income, then the profits from that money is taxed at a lower rate. I know you know this so what is your point?

Yes, that is true the law does allow this..my original question was..is Obama a socialist?...I haven't heard any laws passed that would make him one

You may know more about this than me, but don't you feel the economy has been r****d to benefit the wealthy..? it seems going all the way back to Reagan things started to change...Clinton didn't help ...GWB certainly didn't ..I would like to see laws passed that made it more fair to the workers, middle class and the poor...I don't know what that makes me...it only seems right

petertimber

The assumption that spending more of the taxpayers money will make things better has survived all kinds of evidence that it has made things worse. The black family which survived s***ery,discrimination, poverty,wars and depressions began to come apart after the federal government moved in with its well financed programs to "HELP" among other things including Entitlements.

One of the consequences of such notions as Entitlements is that people who have contributed nothing to society feel that society owes them something just for being nice enough to grace us with their presence.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Skyhook wrote:

"Is Obama a socialist?" br br Does the ... (show quote)

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Winter Solstice Loc: Salt Lake City

Number one - Obamacare
Number two - Each and every bailout he has given banks and industry.

Anigav6969 wrote:

Sorry, I did read..but I still haven't seen a single specific law or policy that would define the president as a socialist...please provide in your own words

Anigav6969

Winter Solstice wrote:

Number one - Obamacare
Number two - Each and every bailout he has given banks and industry.

Why would a socialist give bailouts to banks? That just makes no sense

Obamacare is not a socialist program

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Are you dense? The money Romney is paying 15% on was already taxed once at his regular income rates at the time. The bankruptcy because of a health care event would be horrible and their should be ways to make sure that doesn't happen but bankruptcy does not mean a person necessarily loses every thing. Many times it is restructure of debt. I'll bet you don't pay 30% in taxes. Were you self employed or W2? You say general statements about rare cancers and bankruptcy , show me the statistics. Nothing was done to improve healthcare. Health Insurance was all they really screwed with.

Anigav6969 wrote:

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JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Wasn't the quote something like Obummer saying to Joe he does believe at some point you've made enough money' Who is he to tell anyone how much they should make or keep. No one has the right to tell another human being they have made too much money and someone else deserves their extra.

Skyhook wrote:

You are wondering about Obama's ideas of income redistribution while claiming ignorance of one of his most revealing statements to a self-employed, successful, independent American citizen?

Good grief... for just a moment there I thought you were sincere... shame on me, right?

:roll:

just chris

JFlorio wrote:

Who says the tax system under Clinton was fair? Romney pays what the law allows. Investment money was all ready taxed when it was earned income, then the profits from that money is taxed at a lower rate. I know you know this so what is your point?

It's obvious you have little or no knowlege of the history of taxation in America and how it relates to economic growth. I seem to remember the constant drum beat about "job creators" everything was about how they were scared to hire and over taxed. Now we are looking at record corprate profits, wall street hitting new highs every other day. The "job creators" may be unsure about our president but they sure are making alot of money while being too scared to hire. And one more thing Romneys father was happy to provide 10 years of tax returns he was proud of paying his share.

Anigav6969

JFlorio wrote:

Are you dense? The money Romney is paying 15% on w... (show quote)

A few things have been improved with Obama care...insurance companies can no longer cap a family on their coverage..also, not being able to turn away people with pre-existing conditions and keeping your child on your insurance till age 26... Most people appreciate these changes
As for Romney, as I said before..I get your point..all I'm saying is that the economy has been changed to benefit mostly the wealthy..since around 1980..

Anigav6969

just chris wrote:

It's obvious you have little or no knowlege of the... (show quote)

Thank you !

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

What does anything you have to say have to do with tax rates. Corporate profits are high because they have reduced their work force. Right or wrong that's what happened. Its a proven fact the more you tax something the less of that something you get. People who hire other people are damn well concerned about taxes. Did you ever run a business? Why do you people keep bringing up Romney. He gave the required number of tax returns. I h**e defending him because I'm not a huge fan of his. Why don't you ever b***h about Obama being the only president to never release his college transcripts. Or why doesn't it bother you that Obama never really held much of a job and is a multi millionaire? You talk a big game but I don't see any concrete facts from you about taxes and economic growth.

just chris wrote:

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JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

You would thank someone as clueless as you.

Anigav6969 wrote:

Thank you !