Please be specific in telling us what laws or policies that the president passed that would make him a socialist
In todays vernacular socialism has many different meanings. The Webster Dictionary definition actually sounds in typical liberal fashion like a fair idea. "theory advocating public ownership of means of production, with work and product shared." The ACA is the best example of a socialist ideal. Like every other socialist idea it can't work as advertised. Not everyone is going to share and not everyone contributes equally. Obamas entire income ine******y crap is a socialist idea he is trying to initiate. Take from the haves give to the have not's so everyone is equal. We are not a socialist country or economy yet. We are still a capitalist society. Capitalism can be cruel and flawed, but it is by far the most beneficial type of economy ever invented. Beware, The elites who spout Socialism will never give up their wealth and perks to be just like the serfs.
Anigav6969 wrote:
Please be specific in telling us what laws or policies that the president passed that would make him a socialist
By the way .Happy Easter! The Lord has risen He has risen indeed!
JFlorio wrote:
In todays vernacular socialism has many different meanings. The Webster Dictionary definition actually sounds in typical liberal fashion like a fair idea. "theory advocating public ownership of means of production, with work and product shared." The ACA is the best example of a socialist ideal. Like every other socialist idea it can't work as advertised. Not everyone is going to share and not everyone contributes equally. Obamas entire income ine******y crap is a socialist idea he is trying to initiate. Take from the haves give to the have not's so everyone is equal. We are not a socialist country or economy yet. We are still a capitalist society. Capitalism can be cruel and flawed, but it is by far the most beneficial type of economy ever invented. Beware, The elites who spout Socialism will never give up their wealth and perks to be just like the serfs.
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Noooooo!!!what gives you that idea obumer a liar come on heis Ike a god believe and I have the Brooklyn bridge I can sell you at a great price !!!!!!
JFlorio wrote:
By the way .Happy Easter! The Lord has risen He has risen indeed!
Yea, that doesn't do it for me..but please believe wh**ever you want
JFlorio wrote:
In todays vernacular socialism has many different meanings. The Webster Dictionary definition actually sounds in typical liberal fashion like a fair idea. "theory advocating public ownership of means of production, with work and product shared." The ACA is the best example of a socialist ideal. Like every other socialist idea it can't work as advertised. Not everyone is going to share and not everyone contributes equally. Obamas entire income ine******y crap is a socialist idea he is trying to initiate. Take from the haves give to the have not's so everyone is equal. We are not a socialist country or economy yet. We are still a capitalist society. Capitalism can be cruel and flawed, but it is by far the most beneficial type of economy ever invented. Beware, The elites who spout Socialism will never give up their wealth and perks to be just like the serfs.
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I respect your opinion, but I don't agree that the ACA makes the president a socialist..if that's the case than..newt Gingrich, mitt Romney, the heritage foundation, even Nixon were socialists..all were for an individual mandate. Other than that, I can't think of another example that would even arguably make the president a socialist
What a shocker . Your not a believer. Don't worry He still believes in you whether you like it or not. I believe this saying and I'm para-phrasing is from Abraham Lincoln who said I can understand how someone looking down from heaven may not believe in God but I don't know how someone looking up towards heaven cannot.
Anigav6969 wrote:
Yea, that doesn't do it for me..but please believe wh**ever you want
Sorry, I did read..but I still haven't seen a single specific law or policy that would define the president as a socialist...please provide in your own words
JFlorio wrote:
What a shocker . Your not a believer. Don't worry He still believes in you whether you like it or not. I believe this saying and I'm para-phrasing is from Abraham Lincoln who said I can understand how someone looking down from heaven may not believe in God but I don't know how someone looking up towards heaven cannot.
You can believe wh**ever you want...how do you know I'm not religious? There are thousands of religions in the world..your right and everyone else is wrong?..I respect the right of an individual to believe wh**ever they decide..obviously, you do not
If it makes you feel any better you can say he isn't a socialist and you technically are right. However; call it what you want but he definitely believes in more government controls of the economy, healthcare, and individuals. If you can't admit that your just another Obamma worshiper without a clue. If you can admit it tell as specifically why his way is better for America.
Anigav6969 wrote:
Sorry, I did read..but I still haven't seen a single specific law or policy that would define the president as a socialist...please provide in your own words
"Is Obama a socialist?"
Does the sun rise in the east?
What part of income redistribution don't you understand?
What part of universal health care forced upon the civilian population don't you understand?
How can Obama's remark to Joe-the-Plumber fail to indicate Obama is socialist in his beliefs?
Then, there's the fact that Obama and his trained moron, Holder, are cherry-picking who gets the law applied to them and who doesn't. Although that process is more likened to f*****m than socialism, who with a modicum of understanding would fail to see the connection? :?:
JFlorio wrote:
If it makes you feel any better you can say he isn't a socialist and you technically are right. However; call it what you want but he definitely believes in more government controls of the economy, healthcare, and individuals. If you can't admit that your just another Obamma worshiper without a clue. If you can admit it tell as specifically why his way is better for America.
I'm definitely far from an Obama worshipper..I felt he was the lesser of two evils..I don't like any of them...I think we are far from socialism..only a few have any say in policy in this country...it's more of an oligarchy..I know there was a study done recently that shows much evidence towards that.
That being said to just say Obama 'believes' in more government controls over individuals doesn't really say much..I just don't see it.
The ACA is definitely 'regulated' by the government..I will grant you that...but there are benefits from that
Skyhook wrote:
"Is Obama a socialist?"
Does the sun rise in the east?
What part of income redistribution don't you understand?
What part of universal health care forced upon the civilian population don't you understand?
How can Obama's remark to Joe-the-Plumber fail to indicate Obama is socialist in his beliefs?
Then, there's the fact that Obama and his trained moron, Holder, are cherry-picking who gets the law applied to them and who doesn't. Although that process is more likened to f*****m than socialism, who with a modicum of understanding would fail to see the connection? :?:
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Income redistribution? You mean like trying to raise the federal taxes on the wealthy back to where it was under Clinton? Why does Romney pay 14% and most of us pay over 30%..is that fair to you? If that is what you mean by income redistribution, I'm all for it.
In regards to the ACA...something had to be done..it's not a socialist program...if it were single payer or Medicare for all, I would agree with you..it's more of a BJ to the insurance companies...I hope it works..not sure if it will...but I think it's the right thing morally to hope that a family doesn't go broke if someone gets sick...that's just my opinion.
As for joe the plumber, I'm sorry..I'm not actually familiar what Obama said...didn't joe the plumber just take a union job? I'm not sure, thought I read that
Anigav6969 wrote:
Income redistribution? You mean like trying to raise the federal taxes on the wealthy back to where it was under Clinton? Why does Romney pay 14% and most of us pay over 30%..is that fair to you? If that is what you mean by income redistribution, I'm all for it. Of course you are. How else could the t***h about your mini-god, Obama be so confusing?
In regards to the ACA...something had to be done.. it's not a socialist program...if it were single payer or Medicare for all, I would agree with you..it's more of a BJ to the insurance companies...I hope it works..not sure if it will...but I think it's the right thing morally to hope that a family doesn't go broke if someone gets sick...that's just my opinion.OF COURSE 'something HAD to be done.. the health care in the USA was simply too good, to be ignored by someone like Obama. What part of *fundamental t***sformation* can't you grasp?
As for joe the plumber, I'm sorry..I'm not actually familiar what Obama said...didn't joe the plumber just take a union job? I'm not sure, thought I read that
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Good grief... for just a moment there I thought you were sincere... shame on me, right?
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