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Jul 22, 2018 08:49:43   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
JW wrote:
Trump understands just what an economic powerhouse the USA is. He intends to use that power for the first time since World War II. Like any good entrepreneur, he has gauged the chances of success being worth the risks involved. Whether they are or not is yet to be seen. The risk that can hurt him most is the return of high unemployment numbers if counter-tariffs last too long. A secondary risk is the probable increase in the cost of staples but the USA still has the long term potential to be self sufficient in that area.

Consumer impatience is a real consideration but it would appear that Trump is of the impression that a heightened nationalism can make up for a considerable amount of inconvenience. He is correct in that assessment but he does entertain some serious risks in the process.

I am willing to bear the burdens associated with the risks he is accepting because I am convinced that the current direction of the world leads only to desperation and general collapse. The nonsense of multi-culturalism and the self-blinding of political correctness will destroy all semblances of governable nations in the West if allowed to continue.

There is no potential for a single global humanity and never will be. Cliques will always form among like-minded folk and that eng****rs tribalism and that ensures the death of any system reliant on a global mentality. One world in which all humans share a single consciousness is a fool's imagining.

What our President is attempting is the only hope I can see for a human future that includes any level of civilized intercourse on this planet. The alternative in the event of his failure is a complete collapse of the West and we will quite likely d**g the bulk of the rest of the world down with us into the miasma of deprivation and violence.

In short, I am convinced that Trump is the only current opportunity for the world we know to have any chance of surviving the insanity of the g*******ts and so-called Progressives. That makes almost any risk worth taking.
Trump understands just what an economic powerhouse... (show quote)


That's a great post but I'm actually a federal animal trapper with credintals to prove it, one thing I know is if a fox cat or dog spring a trap without getting caught they never go near another trap again, no matter what bait is in the trap it tastes to them like pie in the sky.

You might be right I don't want to rain on the parade, marching girls in wet uniforms are, anyway I'll say no more till something happens.


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Jul 22, 2018 09:19:45   #
Owl32 Loc: ARK
 
Penny, you are always on the money.
Pennylynn wrote:
In what universe does the President of a nation question a detainee? Perhaps they do on the planet you come from, but here on earth Presidents do not get into field work.

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Jul 22, 2018 14:04:14   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
proud republican wrote:
Thats great ...for you Tom...You are not the one who is being attack for your opinion....But for us on the right,having our own opinions means being yelled at, beaten up, attacked,thrown out of restaurants and worse ...being k**led...Our property being destroyed......So there you go,Tom...You can speak your opinion, unfortunately for us ..we cant!!!..Doesnt mean though im going to stop supporting our President!!!



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Oh ye of very short memories &/or selective forgetfulness, its still occurring that anyone supporting President Obama is figuratively crucified by those on the Right, on here. In fact, your post, here, is a passive-aggressive attack toward those in the Left. Your pretending to be the “victim” is very disingenuous given all of the verbal attacks by yourself and your associates over the most recent past.

Many of this “President’s” associates have been shown to be working with Russians in efforts to get “dirt” on the Clinton campaign. If, as many of you say, this is a “witch-hunt,” please explain all of the guilty pleas and indictments that have been handed-down, thus far, by Mueller’s investigation. Those don’t come about easily.

Every day, more information about illegal contact with Russian government agents by those within Trumpet’s inner circle is being learned. Without cenying the validity of the information, you folks personally attack the people doing their jobs. It’s like you don’t care about what’s going on within the president’s circle. It’s like you don’t care that his ascent to power came about with the illegal help from a foreign power that’s dedicated to our country’s downfall.

I could go on and on about the many, many lies Trumpet has been caught saying (3,001 as of the end of this past May, or 6.5 lies a day! Obama was found to have spoken 18 lies during his ENTIRE presidency!). Or his record of infidelities with various wives. Or, his record of failed business dealings. Or, his record of r****m, misogyny and nationalism. However, I’m sure many of you will simply poo-poo my comments or attack me and insult me, personally, for my views. Many of you have done so in the past and, I have no doubt, will continue to do so in the future.

That so many of you chose allegiance to a man over allegiance to your country, I find disturbing. That you would chose to believe a man whose been proven, time and again, to intentionally lie to us and will praise leaders of totalitarian governments that only want our destruction is baffling. That you will defend someone who openly attacks our free press and who openly attacks individual citizens who criticize him, who aids Chinese businesses that have been shown to steal corporate and government secrets via their electronic components, a man who claims a victory where only defeat is seen by everyone else, that you would defend a man who stated, as one of his goals as President, was to make money for himself and his companies, is beyond me. To me, that makes you all complicit, in varying degrees, in his dedication to end our country and our government as we know it.

We fought an 8-year long revolution (1775-1783) to end our being vassals and peasants under the thumb of a king and his whims. Why do you want to treat Trumpet like he is our king? Why allow him to make himself richer at OUR expense? Why let him get away with doing illegal activities that would cause us, ordinary citizens, to spend years behind bars? Why would you allow him to tell our secrets to our enemies, like he did the Russians shortly after his inauguration?

He’s preformed many acts that are considered treasonous by our legal community. Yet many of you continue to thumb your collective noses at our “rule of law” and shame our investigative agencies just so you can be seen as riding the “Trump-Train to Glory!” My fear for you is that the “glory” you think you see is, in reality, a “hell on earth.” And, that the train is really named the “Chump-Train to Glory.”

There! Now, you have MY opinion!

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Jul 22, 2018 16:59:13   #
Richard Rowland
 
pafret wrote:
Only those left wingers who persist in spouting ridiculous B.S., patently false information and who do it consistently are vilified. These cretins are not here for discussion, their only purpose is to divert discussions into a pointless name calling affair. One of these posters made a practice of responding to each posted comment with the same scurrilous cartoon, no discussion, just the cartoon.

His purpose was to shut off all discussion. What comments would you expect this behavior to draw? Scan through the various posts and look at what is entered by obvious conservatives and right wingers and also those who lean left. You will find more discourse from the right and more contumely, insults and digressions from the left on almost every topic.

I could go on about the lack of intellectual honesty and myriad other faults of the left wing posters but it has all been said, repeatedly and far more eloquently than I can express . Nothing changes; it seems advancing age causes liberals brains to ossify.
Only those left wingers who persist in spouting ri... (show quote)


Well said, pafret.

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Jul 22, 2018 17:40:13   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
Trumpet has been caught saying (3,001 as of the end of this past May, or 6.5 lies a day! Obama was found to have spoken 18 lies during his ENTIRE presidency!). 

alabuck! No matter how many times you tell that whopper you're not going to make it come true. 17 lies in 8 years. I can't throw a font up here big enough to display BS in the proper proportion.

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Jul 22, 2018 18:46:01   #
Richard Rowland
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
What a great Post! I like it!


I too think this is a great post, Ranger. However, something just doesn't add up. Still, I agree that one world with a collective thought process is only in the imagination. I don't think, though, the g*******ts planners care if there isn't a collective singing of "we-are-the-world". The idea is control, not altruism. The proper way to view the concept of one world is as a prison yard.

The convict's ethnicity determines the group they will naturally gravitate to. These individual groups stake out a portion of the prison yard as their territory and don't mingle with the other groups. The guards, g*******t elites, in this case, control the yard and don't care how the yard operates as long as it doesn't threaten their control. Pretty simple.

What doesn't add up, though, is I'm still uncertain of Trump's role, for if he truly is attempting to pull the country back from the brink of globalism, and MAGA, how has he managed to live so long? Perhaps the planners feel that their g*******t agents in the Trump administration can temper most of what he's attempting, and from my perspective, I don't see that he's accomplished much other than cause a lot of noise to be made.

There's only a small portion of the border wall that's been built, just enough, it seems, to have it appear that something is being done. There's talk of renegotiating or pulling out of Nafta, not much being said, of late, about that. ( I've mentioned this before) The administration buckled under the separation of children issue instead of holding their ground and forcefully continue to explain they are following the law that other administrations had put in place. The one area that appears to be a plus is the reported jobs numbers.

It's yet to be seen how the tariffs will play out if ever enacted. So far, all I've heard is what's gonna be affected, not that anything has as yet. Mostly just talk. The unfortunate aspect: China's threat of retaliation has America's farmers fearful and they may abandon the president over the tariff issue. What the farmers need to realize is that China needs every agriculture product they can get their hands on.

Still, I'm on the president's side, and I realize things take time, plus Mueller's BS isn't helping matters.

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Jul 22, 2018 19:38:41   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
Richard Rowland:
Another good post. I pray every day that "they" aren't able to snuff out the President.

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Jul 22, 2018 20:00:58   #
emarine
 
JW wrote:
Trump understands just what an economic powerhouse the USA is. He intends to use that power for the first time since World War II. Like any good entrepreneur, he has gauged the chances of success being worth the risks involved. Whether they are or not is yet to be seen. The risk that can hurt him most is the return of high unemployment numbers if counter-tariffs last too long. A secondary risk is the probable increase in the cost of staples but the USA still has the long term potential to be self sufficient in that area.

Consumer impatience is a real consideration but it would appear that Trump is of the impression that a heightened nationalism can make up for a considerable amount of inconvenience. He is correct in that assessment but he does entertain some serious risks in the process.

I am willing to bear the burdens associated with the risks he is accepting because I am convinced that the current direction of the world leads only to desperation and general collapse. The nonsense of multi-culturalism and the self-blinding of political correctness will destroy all semblances of governable nations in the West if allowed to continue.

There is no potential for a single global humanity and never will be. Cliques will always form among like-minded folk and that eng****rs tribalism and that ensures the death of any system reliant on a global mentality. One world in which all humans share a single consciousness is a fool's imagining.

What our President is attempting is the only hope I can see for a human future that includes any level of civilized intercourse on this planet. The alternative in the event of his failure is a complete collapse of the West and we will quite likely d**g the bulk of the rest of the world down with us into the miasma of deprivation and violence.

In short, I am convinced that Trump is the only current opportunity for the world we know to have any chance of surviving the insanity of the g*******ts and so-called Progressives. That makes almost any risk worth taking.
Trump understands just what an economic powerhouse... (show quote)




Good post... the main problem I see is you appear much sharper than Trump... Trumps more about short term gains & popularity not a solid future...

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Jul 22, 2018 20:18:51   #
emarine
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
I too think this is a great post, Ranger. However, something just doesn't add up. Still, I agree that one world with a collective thought process is only in the imagination. I don't think, though, the g*******ts planners care if there isn't a collective singing of "we-are-the-world". The idea is control, not altruism. The proper way to view the concept of one world is as a prison yard.

The convict's ethnicity determines the group they will naturally gravitate to. These individual groups stake out a portion of the prison yard as their territory and don't mingle with the other groups. The guards, g*******t elites, in this case, control the yard and don't care how the yard operates as long as it doesn't threaten their control. Pretty simple.

What doesn't add up, though, is I'm still uncertain of Trump's role, for if he truly is attempting to pull the country back from the brink of globalism, and MAGA, how has he managed to live so long? Perhaps the planners feel that their g*******t agents in the Trump administration can temper most of what he's attempting, and from my perspective, I don't see that he's accomplished much other than cause a lot of noise to be made.

There's only a small portion of the border wall that's been built, just enough, it seems, to have it appear that something is being done. There's talk of renegotiating or pulling out of Nafta, not much being said, of late, about that. ( I've mentioned this before) The administration buckled under the separation of children issue instead of holding their ground and forcefully continue to explain they are following the law that other administrations had put in place. The one area that appears to be a plus is the reported jobs numbers.

It's yet to be seen how the tariffs will play out if ever enacted. So far, all I've heard is what's gonna be affected, not that anything has as yet. Mostly just talk. The unfortunate aspect: China's threat of retaliation has America's farmers fearful and they may abandon the president over the tariff issue. What the farmers need to realize is that China needs every agriculture product they can get their hands on.

Still, I'm on the president's side, and I realize things take time, plus Mueller's BS isn't helping matters.
I too think this is a great post, Ranger. However... (show quote)




Rich buddy... check this out... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS

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Jul 22, 2018 22:36:49   #
Richard Rowland
 
emarine wrote:
Rich buddy... check this out... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICS


Is there something specific that you intended for me to glean from this, e? It's a bit esoteric, but I think I grasp the basics.

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Jul 23, 2018 00:11:59   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
I too think this is a great post, Ranger. However, something just doesn't add up. Still, I agree that one world with a collective thought process is only in the imagination. I don't think, though, the g*******ts planners care if there isn't a collective singing of "we-are-the-world". The idea is control, not altruism. The proper way to view the concept of one world is as a prison yard.

The convict's ethnicity determines the group they will naturally gravitate to. These individual groups stake out a portion of the prison yard as their territory and don't mingle with the other groups. The guards, g*******t elites, in this case, control the yard and don't care how the yard operates as long as it doesn't threaten their control. Pretty simple.

What doesn't add up, though, is I'm still uncertain of Trump's role, for if he truly is attempting to pull the country back from the brink of globalism, and MAGA, how has he managed to live so long? Perhaps the planners feel that their g*******t agents in the Trump administration can temper most of what he's attempting, and from my perspective, I don't see that he's accomplished much other than cause a lot of noise to be made.

There's only a small portion of the border wall that's been built, just enough, it seems, to have it appear that something is being done. There's talk of renegotiating or pulling out of Nafta, not much being said, of late, about that. ( I've mentioned this before) The administration buckled under the separation of children issue instead of holding their ground and forcefully continue to explain they are following the law that other administrations had put in place. The one area that appears to be a plus is the reported jobs numbers.

It's yet to be seen how the tariffs will play out if ever enacted. So far, all I've heard is what's gonna be affected, not that anything has as yet. Mostly just talk. The unfortunate aspect: China's threat of retaliation has America's farmers fearful and they may abandon the president over the tariff issue. What the farmers need to realize is that China needs every agriculture product they can get their hands on.

Still, I'm on the president's side, and I realize things take time, plus Mueller's BS isn't helping matters.
I too think this is a great post, Ranger. However... (show quote)


I read this post and am reminded of the movie, "Escape from New York" or even "Escape from LA". Is that what we've reduced ourselves to?

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Jul 23, 2018 00:55:49   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
alabuck wrote:
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Oh ye of very short memories &/or selective forgetfulness, its still occurring that anyone supporting President Obama is figuratively crucified by those on the Right, on here. In fact, your post, here, is a passive-aggressive attack toward those in the Left. Your pretending to be the “victim” is very disingenuous given all of the verbal attacks by yourself and your associates over the most recent past.

Many of this “President’s” associates have been shown to be working with Russians in efforts to get “dirt” on the Clinton campaign. If, as many of you say, this is a “witch-hunt,” please explain all of the guilty pleas and indictments that have been handed-down, thus far, by Mueller’s investigation. Those don’t come about easily.

Every day, more information about illegal contact with Russian government agents by those within Trumpet’s inner circle is being learned. Without cenying the validity of the information, you folks personally attack the people doing their jobs. It’s like you don’t care about what’s going on within the president’s circle. It’s like you don’t care that his ascent to power came about with the illegal help from a foreign power that’s dedicated to our country’s downfall.

I could go on and on about the many, many lies Trumpet has been caught saying (3,001 as of the end of this past May, or 6.5 lies a day! Obama was found to have spoken 18 lies during his ENTIRE presidency!). Or his record of infidelities with various wives. Or, his record of failed business dealings. Or, his record of r****m, misogyny and nationalism. However, I’m sure many of you will simply poo-poo my comments or attack me and insult me, personally, for my views. Many of you have done so in the past and, I have no doubt, will continue to do so in the future.

That so many of you chose allegiance to a man over allegiance to your country, I find disturbing. That you would chose to believe a man whose been proven, time and again, to intentionally lie to us and will praise leaders of totalitarian governments that only want our destruction is baffling. That you will defend someone who openly attacks our free press and who openly attacks individual citizens who criticize him, who aids Chinese businesses that have been shown to steal corporate and government secrets via their electronic components, a man who claims a victory where only defeat is seen by everyone else, that you would defend a man who stated, as one of his goals as President, was to make money for himself and his companies, is beyond me. To me, that makes you all complicit, in varying degrees, in his dedication to end our country and our government as we know it.

We fought an 8-year long revolution (1775-1783) to end our being vassals and peasants under the thumb of a king and his whims. Why do you want to treat Trumpet like he is our king? Why allow him to make himself richer at OUR expense? Why let him get away with doing illegal activities that would cause us, ordinary citizens, to spend years behind bars? Why would you allow him to tell our secrets to our enemies, like he did the Russians shortly after his inauguration?

He’s preformed many acts that are considered treasonous by our legal community. Yet many of you continue to thumb your collective noses at our “rule of law” and shame our investigative agencies just so you can be seen as riding the “Trump-Train to Glory!” My fear for you is that the “glory” you think you see is, in reality, a “hell on earth.” And, that the train is really named the “Chump-Train to Glory.”

There! Now, you have MY opinion!
——————- br br Oh ye of very short memories &/... (show quote)



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Jul 23, 2018 01:06:31   #
JW
 
emarine wrote:
Good post... the main problem I see is you appear much sharper than Trump... Trumps more about short term gains & popularity not a solid future...


If you have paid attention, you will realize Trump is playing the long game. He is maneuvering to get manufacturing back into the US and that isn't an overnight prospect. He is maneuvering to get the US onto a level playing field with the rest of the world in trade and financial equity. Those are also not short term goals. He has asked the country to be patient and patience is exactly what the long game requires. He is working to reduce the dangers of devastating warfare; again, not a short term consideration.

I am not sharper than Trump (he's a billionaire and I am on Social Security) but I am sharp enough to understand the game he plays.

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Jul 23, 2018 01:11:38   #
JW
 
Richard Rowland wrote:
I too think this is a great post, Ranger. However, something just doesn't add up. Still, I agree that one world with a collective thought process is only in the imagination. I don't think, though, the g*******ts planners care if there isn't a collective singing of "we-are-the-world". The idea is control, not altruism. The proper way to view the concept of one world is as a prison yard.

The convict's ethnicity determines the group they will naturally gravitate to. These individual groups stake out a portion of the prison yard as their territory and don't mingle with the other groups. The guards, g*******t elites, in this case, control the yard and don't care how the yard operates as long as it doesn't threaten their control. Pretty simple.

What doesn't add up, though, is I'm still uncertain of Trump's role, for if he truly is attempting to pull the country back from the brink of globalism, and MAGA, how has he managed to live so long? Perhaps the planners feel that their g*******t agents in the Trump administration can temper most of what he's attempting, and from my perspective, I don't see that he's accomplished much other than cause a lot of noise to be made.

There's only a small portion of the border wall that's been built, just enough, it seems, to have it appear that something is being done. There's talk of renegotiating or pulling out of Nafta, not much being said, of late, about that. ( I've mentioned this before) The administration buckled under the separation of children issue instead of holding their ground and forcefully continue to explain they are following the law that other administrations had put in place. The one area that appears to be a plus is the reported jobs numbers.

It's yet to be seen how the tariffs will play out if ever enacted. So far, all I've heard is what's gonna be affected, not that anything has as yet. Mostly just talk. The unfortunate aspect: China's threat of retaliation has America's farmers fearful and they may abandon the president over the tariff issue. What the farmers need to realize is that China needs every agriculture product they can get their hands on.

Still, I'm on the president's side, and I realize things take time, plus Mueller's BS isn't helping matters.
I too think this is a great post, Ranger. However... (show quote)


I agree that the prison analogy works but I keep remembering the French Revolution. Dr. Guillotine's cure for excessive feelings of self worth went a long way to changing the minds of the self-appointed guards. There is no reason to expect the g*******t/Progressives can't be taught the same lessons if they get too carried away with themselves.

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Jul 23, 2018 01:16:50   #
JW
 
alabuck wrote:
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There! Now, you have MY opinion!


Like I said, there is no need to take it seriously.

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