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Jul 15, 2018 11:03:54   #
moldyoldy
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Let me understand.... do b****s in the USA benefit from a thriving economy?


They did not benefit from s***ery and are the last to benefit from a good economy.

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Jul 15, 2018 11:28:50   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
That is interesting when you compare American b****s with their relatives in Africa.... it would seem that their capture by neighboring tribes and selling them in to the New World gave them great benefits; education, preferential treatment in job placements, preferential treatment in college admissions, preferential treatment in procuring loans.... and if that is not enough, due to living in the USA and specialized treatment of race related disease, they actually live longer.
Do you believe this to be incorrect? How many b****s in the USA would rather live in Africa? How many demand from other countries consistent apologies for their participation in s***ery....in particular the muslim countries?
moldyoldy wrote:
They did not benefit from s***ery and are the last to benefit from a good economy.

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Jul 15, 2018 11:47:28   #
moldyoldy
 
Pennylynn wrote:
That is interesting when you compare American b****s with their relatives in Africa.... it would seem that their capture by neighboring tribes and selling them in to the New World gave them great benefits; education, preferential treatment in job placements, preferential treatment in college admissions, preferential treatment in procuring loans.... and if that is not enough, due to living in the USA and specialized treatment of race related disease, they actually live longer.
Do you believe this to be incorrect? How many b****s in the USA would rather live in Africa? How many demand from other countries consistent apologies for their participation in s***ery....in particular the muslim countries?
That is interesting when you compare American b***... (show quote)


Your so called preferential treatment was an attempt to make up for consistent unfair treatment. Each time an attempt was made the GOP would find a way to water down the program such as making women a minority when the government was giving contracts to minority businesses. White men put the business in the wife's name, affirmative action circumvented. Didn't the US give r********ns to Jews and Japanese people?

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Jul 15, 2018 12:51:34   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
The US have never paid r********ns to Jews.... it was never expected. Japanese, yes and it was due to the internment of Asian Americans during WWII.

So, back to the question.... are b****s better off in the USA or would they have been better off in Africa or other places the muslims sold them? Africa is the poorest continent on earth by a long shot. With the exception of three, 28 of the poorest countries in the world are in Africa. This is a quote from https://www.children.org/global-poverty/global-poverty-facts/africa The incredible thing, Africa is rich! Diamonds, silver, gold, are among their riches.... then you have farmland, water, good soil, temperatures that are very similar to Australia. Yet it remains poor, 20 percent of Africa are children and those children have little to no education, health care is hit and miss and when they grow (if they survive) to adulthood, they will repeat the patterns of their forefathers. Is that better than what you have as a citizen of the USA?

Believe me when I say, s***ery was a most grievous mistake our nation ever made, bar none..... That mistake divided our nation and that division cost the lives of over 750,000 people in a sparsely populated country. Some of those who died were related to me. Do I hold that against every black person in the US? Heck no..... they were not alive when this happened, they are not guilty. Just as the other races that call America home.... they did not buy your relatives....s***ery was abolished more than 150 years ago. Yes.... it was horrible mistake and we, the current generation, are still paying for that mistake. If history could be corrected, and someone asked me..... b****s would have remained in their villages or would have wound
up wherever the muslims sold them, but they would not have been brought to the new nation, under any condition other than legal immigration. Think about it, 750,000 people.....the number of men dying in the Civil War is more than in all other American wars from the American Revolution through the Korean War combined. Over $8 trillion dollars in last 50 years, a nation still divided..... how could I not want to change history.


moldyoldy wrote:
Your so called preferential treatment was an attempt to make up for consistent unfair treatment. Each time an attempt was made the GOP would find a way to water down the program such as making women a minority when the government was giving contracts to minority businesses. White men put the business in the wife's name, affirmative action circumvented. Didn't the US give r********ns to Jews and Japanese people?

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Jul 15, 2018 13:41:27   #
Alber
 
In America, there were not only African s***es. There were also Europeans and Asians. If it is about the s***ery of the Africans and somebody wants to demand responsibility over it, it should not be demanded only from those who bought the "merchandise" or those who t***sported it. The most guilty are those who sold their own people and those are the ones who are mainly to be demanded. It is necessary to know that s***ery was a way of life in Africa when the s***e trade began. The African kinglets sold those who they had as s***es and often also those who were their subjects. The s***e dealers did not bother to go to capture any s***e, they had factories on the coast where black s***es were brought from the interior of Africa by Africans b****s who were s***ers. They were brought in a row tied by the neck with each other and when there was one who could not walk and prevented the movement of the row they did not bother to untie it, they just cut off his head and left the headless corpse in the place. It would be good if they read the book by the Cuban ethnologist Fernando Ortiz: "Los Negros Esclavos". In that book there is an anecdote about two s***es who obtained their freedom in Cuba in the eighties of the nineteenth century, when there s***ery was abolished. These two Africans wanted to return to Africa and they succeeded, but when they arrived there the environment in which they lived became unbearable and after two years of calamities they returned to Cuba and declared that it was better to be a s***e in Cuba than free in Africa. There is a book entitled: "The Land of the Fetish" written by an itinerant British ambassador who did his service on the coast of s***es in Africa in the l950s of the nineteenth century, which recounts life in those places, where still s***ery was a norm of lifetime.
The first to own black s***es in this country was a Negro.
Self-esteem is very important for anyone, who lacks it can be a victim or a victimizer in the society in which he or she lives. You can see how Mrs. Maxime Waters, in the KKK best style, incites aggression against other people due to their political affiliation. It is also an example of this, how in California, a 30-year-old African-American woman, hits a 91-year-old Mexican man with a piece of concrete and was helped by other African-Americans men who beat him when he is unconscious on the ground and she shouts: "Go back from Mexico from where you came.”
I believe that respect is gained through the behavior of people, it is not deserved because of race or color. There are very respectable African-Americans for their behavior and there is no need to mention them, we all know them. These have overcome the victim complex. Unfortunately there are many who still lack self-esteem and are victims or victimizers.

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Jul 15, 2018 14:14:17   #
moldyoldy
 
Pennylynn wrote:
The US have never paid r********ns to Jews.... it was never expected. Japanese, yes and it was due to the internment of Asian Americans during WWII.

So, back to the question.... are b****s better off in the USA or would they have been better off in Africa or other places the muslims sold them? Africa is the poorest continent on earth by a long shot. With the exception of three, 28 of the poorest countries in the world are in Africa. This is a quote from https://www.children.org/global-poverty/global-poverty-facts/africa The incredible thing, Africa is rich! Diamonds, silver, gold, are among their riches.... then you have farmland, water, good soil, temperatures that are very similar to Australia. Yet it remains poor, 20 percent of Africa are children and those children have little to no education, health care is hit and miss and when they grow (if they survive) to adulthood, they will repeat the patterns of their forefathers. Is that better than what you have as a citizen of the USA?

Believe me when I say, s***ery was a most grievous mistake our nation ever made, bar none..... That mistake divided our nation and that division cost the lives of over 750,000 people in a sparsely populated country. Some of those who died were related to me. Do I hold that against every black person in the US? Heck no..... they were not alive when this happened, they are not guilty. Just as the other races that call America home.... they did not buy your relatives....s***ery was abolished more than 150 years ago. Yes.... it was horrible mistake and we, the current generation, are still paying for that mistake. If history could be corrected, and someone asked me..... b****s would have remained in their villages or would have wound
up wherever the muslims sold them, but they would not have been brought to the new nation, under any condition other than legal immigration. Think about it, 750,000 people.....the number of men dying in the Civil War is more than in all other American wars from the American Revolution through the Korean War combined. Over $8 trillion dollars in last 50 years, a nation still divided..... how could I not want to change history.
The US have never paid r********ns to Jews.... it ... (show quote)


Africa has many modern cities, and also rural and tribal areas. It seems that no one considers the Amazon or appalacia as backwards, but there are tribes with no contact with the outside world there, mountain people living in shacks with no running water or electricity in America. I have seen the same dichotomy in the Philippines.

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Jul 15, 2018 14:19:47   #
moldyoldy
 
Alber wrote:
In America, there were not only African s***es. There were also Europeans and Asians. If it is about the s***ery of the Africans and somebody wants to demand responsibility over it, it should not be demanded only from those who bought the "merchandise" or those who t***sported it. The most guilty are those who sold their own people and those are the ones who are mainly to be demanded. It is necessary to know that s***ery was a way of life in Africa when the s***e trade began. The African kinglets sold those who they had as s***es and often also those who were their subjects. The s***e dealers did not bother to go to capture any s***e, they had factories on the coast where black s***es were brought from the interior of Africa by Africans b****s who were s***ers. They were brought in a row tied by the neck with each other and when there was one who could not walk and prevented the movement of the row they did not bother to untie it, they just cut off his head and left the headless corpse in the place. It would be good if they read the book by the Cuban ethnologist Fernando Ortiz: "Los Negros Esclavos". In that book there is an anecdote about two s***es who obtained their freedom in Cuba in the eighties of the nineteenth century, when there s***ery was abolished. These two Africans wanted to return to Africa and they succeeded, but when they arrived there the environment in which they lived became unbearable and after two years of calamities they returned to Cuba and declared that it was better to be a s***e in Cuba than free in Africa. There is a book entitled: "The Land of the Fetish" written by an itinerant British ambassador who did his service on the coast of s***es in Africa in the l950s of the nineteenth century, which recounts life in those places, where still s***ery was a norm of lifetime.
The first to own black s***es in this country was a Negro.
Self-esteem is very important for anyone, who lacks it can be a victim or a victimizer in the society in which he or she lives. You can see how Mrs. Maxime Waters, in the KKK best style, incites aggression against other people due to their political affiliation. It is also an example of this, how in California, a 30-year-old African-American woman, hits a 91-year-old Mexican man with a piece of concrete and was helped by other African-Americans men who beat him when he is unconscious on the ground and she shouts: "Go back from Mexico from where you came.”
I believe that respect is gained through the behavior of people, it is not deserved because of race or color. There are very respectable African-Americans for their behavior and there is no need to mention them, we all know them. These have overcome the victim complex. Unfortunately there are many who still lack self-esteem and are victims or victimizers.
In America, there were not only African s***es. Th... (show quote)



You say that a Black was the first to own a s***e, no the t***h is the court never had to legislate the issue until a Black bought a s***e. If you want to single out one sick incident, then why not talk about hundreds of years of lynchings, k*****gs, destruction of property by w****s?

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Jul 15, 2018 14:50:01   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You say that a Black was the first to own a s***e, no the t***h is the court never had to legislate the issue until a Black bought a s***e. If you want to single out one sick incident, then why not talk about hundreds of years of lynchings, k*****gs, destruction of property by w****s?


Why not talk about the thousands of years of s***ery before America was colonized? For the same reason, it was in the past. It wasn't done by us and we need feel no guilt wh**ever because we didn't do it. If you can't let go of that it is your problem and if you are looking for something from me for actions taken a hundred years ago, by someone else, against someone similar to you, all I can say is you are some kind of con artist and a stupid one at that.

Lots of luck, you don't even get sympathy from me.

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Jul 15, 2018 15:09:04   #
moldyoldy
 
pafret wrote:
Why not talk about the thousands of years of s***ery before America was colonized? For the same reason, it was in the past. It wasn't done by us and we need feel no guilt wh**ever because we didn't do it. If you can't let go of that it is your problem and if you are looking for something from me for actions taken a hundred years ago, by someone else, against someone similar to you, all I can say is you are some kind of con artist and a stupid one at that.

Lots of luck, you don't even get sympathy from me.
Why not talk about the thousands of years of s***e... (show quote)


The government was giving out land grants and loans to steal all the land in the west, but never delivered on the promised 40 acres and a mule for the s***es.

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Jul 15, 2018 16:08:43   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Okay, so let us explore this... you blame the government for not giving those now long deceased ex-s***es the land and the animal. But, really it was Sherman that promised this land, all of it belonging to confederate states (as if his march left any soil or homes unburned on his march). On January 12th (1865)in Savannah, Georgia, Sherman and Secretary of War Edwin Stanton meet with a group of 20 African American ministers and ask them what the former s***es need in order to take care of themselves. The ministers answer, “The way we can best take care of ourselves is to have land, and turn it and till it by our own labor–and we can soon maintain ourselves and have something to spare. We want to be placed on land until we are able to buy it and make it our own." Do read that quote one more time... it comes directly from the Archieves in Washington, DC.

In that same year, Lincoln was assassinated and Andrew Johnson followed up by offers of amnesty to most Confederates--meaning those that capitulated and was not executed already, restoring their property to them or their surviving immediate family. This caused a problem, Sherman had no authority to promise land, money, or homesteads to ex-s***es. To top this off, the land was taken by those 20 "ministers" who were Yankees aka carpetbaggers. They moved onto land that the owners had been murdered either by Sherman's men or those newly freed s***es. Even those men, women, and children who had never owned a s***e. The amount of land in question was 400,000 acres spanning the coastal area from North Carolina to Florida. Those carpetbaggers then allowed the ex-s***es to sharecrop, and those ex-s***es by default became s***es again. Not to "evil white" landowners, but now to black carpetbaggers who incidentally got rich from the s***e labor.

Democrats, mostly Yankees, screwed you.... not the southerners. So put the blame where it is due.... your Yankee General that murdered and burned his way across the south. Second, blame the Yankee carpetbaggers.

moldyoldy wrote:
The government was giving out land grants and loans to steal all the land in the west, but never delivered on the promised 40 acres and a mule for the s***es.

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Jul 15, 2018 16:31:20   #
moldyoldy
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Okay, so let us explore this... you blame the government for not giving those now long deceased ex-s***es the land and the animal. But, really it was Sherman that promised this land, all of it belonging to confederate states (as if his march left any soil or homes unburned on his march). On January 12th (1865)in Savannah, Georgia, Sherman and Secretary of War Edwin Stanton meet with a group of 20 African American ministers and ask them what the former s***es need in order to take care of themselves. The ministers answer, “The way we can best take care of ourselves is to have land, and turn it and till it by our own labor–and we can soon maintain ourselves and have something to spare. We want to be placed on land until we are able to buy it and make it our own." Do read that quote one more time... it comes directly from the Archieves in Washington, DC.

In that same year, Lincoln was assassinated and Andrew Johnson followed up by offers of amnesty to most Confederates--meaning those that capitulated and was not executed already, restoring their property to them or their surviving immediate family. This caused a problem, Sherman had no authority to promise land, money, or homesteads to ex-s***es. To top this off, the land was taken by those 20 "ministers" who were Yankees aka carpetbaggers. They moved onto land that the owners had been murdered either by Sherman's men or those newly freed s***es. Even those men, women, and children who had never owned a s***e. The amount of land in question was 400,000 acres spanning the coastal area from North Carolina to Florida. Those carpetbaggers then allowed the ex-s***es to sharecrop, and those ex-s***es by default became s***es again. Not to "evil white" landowners, but now to black carpetbaggers who incidentally got rich from the s***e labor.

Democrats, mostly Yankees, screwed you.... not the southerners. So put the blame where it is due.... your Yankee General that murdered and burned his way across the south. Second, blame the Yankee carpetbaggers.
Okay, so let us explore this... you blame the gove... (show quote)



What Became of the Land That Was Promised?
The response to the Order was immediate. When the transcript of the meeting was reprinted in the black publication Christian Recorder, an editorial note intoned that “From this it will be seen that the colored people down South are not so dumb as many suppose them to be,” reflecting North-South, s***e-free black class tensions that continued well into the modern civil rights movement. The effect throughout the South was electric: As Eric Foner explains, “the freedmen hastened to take advantage of the Order.” Baptist minister Ulysses L. Houston, one of the group that had met with Sherman, led 1,000 b****s to Skidaway Island, Ga., where they established a self-governing community with Houston as the “black governor.” And by June, “40,000 freedmen had been settled on 400,000 acres of ‘Sherman Land.’ ” By the way, Sherman later ordered that the army could lend the new settlers mules; hence the phrase, “40 acres and a mule.”
And what happened to this astonishingly visionary program, which would have fundamentally altered the course of American race relations? Andrew Johnson, Lincoln’s successor and a sympathizer with the South, overturned the Order in the fall of 1865, and, as Barton Myers sadly concludes, “returned the land along the South Carolina, Georgia and Florida coasts to the planters who had originally owned it” — to the very people who had declared war on the United States of America.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-americans-many-rivers-to-cross/history/the-t***h-behind-40-acres-and-a-mule/

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Jul 15, 2018 17:02:06   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
All of us here flapping our gums so to speak ( As we really are using our fingers)

Failure to take in to account how s***ery played such a large part in creating the worlds wealth.
How they have turned their back on those whose earlier generations whos toils enriched the forefathers of the wealthy so well.

This is the one of greatest injustice that has ever been.
A long with the treatment of the Native Indians in this country comes close.

The price others paid for our forefathers gain is the biggest sin we all carry.

All that is being ask of us is to treat them with the respect they deserve.

So many w****s have let them self be divided on facial issue & have sold their souls for the almighty dollar.

As individuals we are an important part of what ever takes place in life.

We as individuals, if we wish to have all the rights we think we should have.
We need be for the rights of individuals as individuals every where.

All people need to be recognized as being valuable to the whole.
Redressing past sins is in order.

It is our sin that we inherited from our fathers.
It has fallen on us to correct.
The very least we should do is to ask forgiveness for the sins of our fathers.
Then show them the respect they deserve for putting up with the pains they have suffered.
All of us here flapping our gums so to speak ( As ... (show quote)


floyd: S***ery in America was .01% of s***ery worldwide!!!!!!! Find something else to blame!

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Jul 15, 2018 20:26:37   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
All of us here flapping our gums so to speak ( As we really are using our fingers)

Failure to take in to account how s***ery played such a large part in creating the worlds wealth.
How they have turned their back on those whose earlier generations whos toils enriched the forefathers of the wealthy so well.

This is the one of greatest injustice that has ever been.
A long with the treatment of the Native Indians in this country comes close.

The price others paid for our forefathers gain is the biggest sin we all carry.

All that is being ask of us is to treat them with the respect they deserve.

So many w****s have let them self be divided on facial issue & have sold their souls for the almighty dollar.

As individuals we are an important part of what ever takes place in life.

We as individuals, if we wish to have all the rights we think we should have.
We need be for the rights of individuals as individuals every where.

All people need to be recognized as being valuable to the whole.
Redressing past sins is in order.

It is our sin that we inherited from our fathers.
It has fallen on us to correct.
The very least we should do is to ask forgiveness for the sins of our fathers.
Then show them the respect they deserve for putting up with the pains they have suffered.
All of us here flapping our gums so to speak ( As ... (show quote)



Yes, it was a bad time for the human condition
S***ery is alive and well on planet earth even today but in different forms.

Why don't you do yourself a big favor and consume some t***h in lieu of the BS you are fed on a daily basis.. Seek t***h!

Try reading the books of Dr. Thomas Sowell. Try to open your mind and critically think for yourself after reading ALL his work.

https://youtu.be/VWrfjUzYvPo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g_a7dQXilCo&t=139s

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Jul 15, 2018 20:36:59   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Your so called preferential treatment was an attempt to make up for consistent unfair treatment. Each time an attempt was made the GOP would find a way to water down the program such as making women a minority when the government was giving contracts to minority businesses. White men put the business in the wife's name, affirmative action circumvented. Didn't the US give r********ns to Jews and Japanese people?


So should Jews ask Germany for reporations,since it was Hitler who murdered 6 million jews in the Concentration camps......And NO US didnt give r********ns to Jews....Know your history before writing this BS!!!!

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Jul 15, 2018 21:22:49   #
moldyoldy
 
proud republican wrote:
So should Jews ask Germany for reporations,since it was Hitler who murdered 6 million jews in the Concentration camps......And NO US didnt give r********ns to Jews....Know your history before writing this BS!!!!


.Know your history before writing this BS!!!![/quote]



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R********ns_Agreement_between_Israel_and_West_Germany

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trafficandcommuting/us-begins-paying-out-french-r********ns-to-holocaust-survivors-and-their-heirs/2016/09/15/87b1de56-7abb-11e6-bd86-b7bbd53d2b5d_story.html

https://rollingout.com/2015/10/07/obama-administration-earmarks-12-million-r********ns-holocaust-survivors/


Israel gets 4 billion in r********ns from the US every year.

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