The impact of s***ery! (Page 5): My goodness..... what does this have to do with s***ery? BTW, Rodrigo Borgia was an Italian looking nothing like the meme you posted. As for how Jesus...

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

My goodness..... what does this have to do with s***ery? BTW, Rodrigo Borgia was an Italian looking nothing like the meme you posted. As for how Jesus appeared.... he could have been a redhead as was King David, he could have had fair skin with blue eyes as Bethlehem was an early Canaanite settlement and a melting pot for people and cultures from all over, he was divine so he may have appeared in any form depending on who he was addressing.
The bible only says he was tall and handsome. There are no skeletal remains (or none have been discovered) so DNA examination is out of the question. Having said that, DNA studies are being done on the bones found in the James Ossuary, James was Jesus' half brother, sharing the same mother, so we may soon know how Jesus looked.... One thing we do know, he was atypical in all aspects, so I am thinking that the article you cut and pasted expresses how a typical Jew appeared in a small sampling of reconstructions. It does not account for "visitors" who deposed their DNA across the world. Think about it, if you wanted to portray the Germanic people as short, big nosed, seasoned skin.... could you not use the reconstructed samplings from the Neanderthal to prove your hypothesis? If the New Testament is accurate (and I have no doubts of this as a fact), it does not matter his physical appearance because he would not have the "traits" associated with any race, he was divine..... his DNA would be only part human and the rest would have been the DNA of G*d himself. As far as I know, He who created all things can appear anyway He wants. But, if it makes you feel superior you can think you are related to him, perhaps a direct decedent.

moldyoldy wrote:

Ancient Man and His First Civilizations

How did Jesus and the Hebrews become WHITE?

How did the Hebrews turn White? Of course they didn't really; just in the imaginations, and then the histories of White people. Who for probably practical reasons, decided that Hebrews, and also the B****s who originally lived in the Country's that they took over, should all become White for posterity's sake.
Seeing as how it only takes three generations to turn a Black person into a White person (and visa versa). No doubt there came a time when as Europe's formerly bi-racial populations, became more homogeneously White, White people decided that they could no longer acknowledge that all that they knew and had, was derived from the minds and labors of Black people - even down to their religious beliefs. The logic no doubt being that W****s could not progress to their full potential, if they were always looking up to B****s, as the personification of knowledge and wisdom. So a change had to be made, and at some point, by somebody, that change began.
Of course, we have no way of knowing when this process of Whitinizing B****s began, or who did it, or where it was first done. But we do have some materials by which we can track the process, somewhat.
But first, let us go back to see what Hebrews REALLY looked like. The earliest authentic pictures of real Hebrews that we have, date back to before Christ. They are Assyrian relief's showing Hebrews, and others that they conquered, in pictorial scenes detailing the battles fought, with associated text. These relief's decorated Assyrian palaces, and were no doubt used to gloat over their conquest of the Hebrews and others. Here we are using pictures of: Assyrian King Shalmaneser IIIs "Black Obelisk" (858 B.C.). Assyrian king Tiglath-pilesar IIIÃÂ¢ÃÂÃÂs relief's of his conquest of a city near the Sea of Galilee (730 B.C.). Assyrian King SennacheribÃÂ¢ÃÂÃÂs relief's of the conquest of the Judean City of Lachish (701 B.C.). The four pictures below, are from those Assyrian relief's. (These relief's are stored in the British Museum, London England).
http://realhistoryww.com/world_history/ancient/Misc/Jesus/Jesus.htm

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Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Thank you for catching my typo... I stand corrected.

moldyoldy wrote:

You might be 100 years off

pafret Loc: Northeast

moldyoldy wrote:

You might be 100 years off

No, he is just off.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

I am not a "he" and what proof do you have that I am "off"? I admitted my mistake and thanked Moldy for catching it..... and this begs the question, why must you be rude to me?
I know that you do not like me as I have disagreed with many of your antisemitic posts, but for me that is not a personal attack on you, but rather an attack on what is proven to be inaccurate information spread by websites that are undoubtedly antisemitic.

pafret wrote:

No, he is just off.

pafret Loc: Northeast

Pennylynn wrote:

I am not a "he" and what proof do you have that I am "off"? I admitted my mistake and thanked Moldy for catching it..... and this begs the question, why must you be rude to me?
I know that you do not like me as I have disagreed with many of your antisemitic posts, but for me that is not a personal attack on you, but rather an attack on what is proven to be inaccurate information spread by websites that are undoubtedly antisemitic.

Note that my comment is in reference to your statement that moldy is 100 years off. My response is that he (meaning Moldy) is just off. You need to take a chill pill because you seem to to take offense at everything I write. You will know in explicit detail if I want to insult you.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

You have it backward, my date was 100 years off, typo of a nine instead of an 8.
I am not offended by you.

pafret wrote:

Note that my comment is in reference to your statement that moldy is 100 years off. My response is that he (meaning Moldy) is just off. You need to take a chill pill because you seem to to take offense at everything I write. You will know in explicit detail if I want to insult you.

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

ldsuttonjr wrote:

Peewee: You might want to due a little research on MLK! He loved using his peewee on women during all his travels. That makes for a strange angel?

Thanks, I knew that. I think that sin is very common among men, doesn't make him evil, just makes him horny and maybe lonely. I'm pretty sure all sins grieve God. But some sins are less serious and some are more serious. Overall, MLK was a good man who did good things.

moldyoldy

Pennylynn wrote:

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Bronze skin, hair like lambs wool.

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Revelation 1:14-16 says: "The hairs of his head were white, like white wool, like snow. His eyes were like a flame of fire, his feet were like burnished bronze, refined in a furnace, and his voice was like the roar of many waters." What a frightening vision. But, let us take a close look at what is said....

The verse says his hair was white like wool, not that it was textured like wool, or that it appeared as wool. If I said my hair is as red as a strawberry it does not mean that I have fruit growing from my skull, it simply a way to paint a color pallet. In the same chapter, it also says that his hair is white as snow..... this does not imply that his hair is made of snowflakes. Going on, verse 16 also says that his face was shining like the sun, again this does not imply that his face was 5,778 K only that it was gleaming similar to a pregnant (those who have no plans to murder their unborn child) woman, their happiness shows in their skin and face. Clothing does not become white as light.... otherwise there would be many folks that appear naked. His skin tone was like polished brass... More accurate, in Greek the word is χαλκολίβανον or “chalkolibanon” which can mean bronze, refined brass, golden ore, or even white/shining copper. So, he was an "orange man" (just as a few on OPP describe President Trump's complexion). It does not say ebony nor does it say he was lacking light, which are the only descriptions that equate to the color black. Moving on, it says in verse 14 that his eyes were like a flame of fire, and at the end of verse 15 that his voice is like a roar of many waters. Does this mean Jesus had orange eyes? Did Jesus’ voice actually sound like water, or is this a simile for power and authority of speech? In 16 it says that he was holding stars and that a sword was coming out of his mouth. Was Jesus actually holding literal stars and was a literal sword coming out of his mouth, or is this metaphorical imagery for the attributes and functions of Jesus?

So much for this... what is your next misunderstanding of the bible? Or do you want to have a truce which will allow you dignity and retain your belief that Jesus is your long lost grand (many times) uncle?

moldyoldy wrote:

Bronze skin, hair like lambs wool.

moldyoldy

Pennylynn wrote:

Revelation 1:14-16 says: "The hairs of his head were white, like white wool, like snow. His eyes were like a flame of fire, his feet were like burnished bronze, refined in a furnace, and his voice was like the roar of many waters." What a frightening vision. But, let us take a close look at what is said....

The verse says his hair was white like wool, not that it was textured like wool, or that it appeared as wool. If I said my hair is as red as a strawberry it does not mean that I have fruit growing from my skull, it simply a way to paint a color pallet. In the same chapter, it also says that his hair is white as snow..... this does not imply that his hair is made of snowflakes. Going on, verse 16 also says that his face was shining like the sun, again this does not imply that his face was 5,778 K only that it was gleaming similar to a pregnant (those who have no plans to murder their unborn child) woman, their happiness shows in their skin and face. Clothing does not become white as light.... otherwise there would be many folks that appear naked. His skin tone was like polished brass... More accurate, in Greek the word is χαλκολίβανον or “chalkolibanon” which can mean bronze, refined brass, golden ore, or even white/shining copper. So, he was an "orange man" (just as a few on OPP describe President Trump's complexion). It does not say ebony nor does it say he was lacking light, which are the only descriptions that equate to the color black. Moving on, it says in verse 14 that his eyes were like a flame of fire, and at the end of verse 15 that his voice is like a roar of many waters. Does this mean Jesus had orange eyes? Did Jesus’ voice actually sound like water, or is this a simile for power and authority of speech? In 16 it says that he was holding stars and that a sword was coming out of his mouth. Was Jesus actually holding literal stars and was a literal sword coming out of his mouth, or is this metaphorical imagery for the attributes and functions of Jesus?

So much for this... what is your next misunderstanding of the bible? Or do you want to have a truce which will allow you dignity and retain your belief that Jesus is your long lost grand (many times) uncle?

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After a little peyote, visions appear.

The New Testament includes no descriptions of Jesus' appearance before his death and the Gospel narratives are generally indifferent to people's racial appearance or features.[10][9][7]:48–51
The Synoptic Gospels include the account of the T***sfiguration of Jesus, during which he was glorified with "His face shining as the sun."[11][12] but this appearance is considered to refer to Jesus in unearthly form.
The Book of Revelation includes John's vision of the Son of Man: "...and His feet were like unto burnt brass, His head and His hairs were white like wool, as white as snow;" [other t***slations: "burnished bronze"], as if they burned in a furnace..." in a vision (1:13–16), but this vision is usually considered to refer to Jesus in heavenly form, not necessarily his appearance during his earthly life.[13][14]

Small and ugly.

As quoted by Eisler,[21]:393–394, 414–415 both Hierosolymitanus and John of Damascus claim that "the Jew Josephus" described Christ as having had connate eyebrows with goodly eyes and being long-faced, crooked and well-grown. In a letter of certain bishops to the Emperor Theophilus, Christ's height is described as three cubits (four feet six), which was also the opinion of Ephrem Syrus (320–379 AD), "God took human form and appeared in the form of three human ells (cubits); he came down to us small of stature." Theodore of Mopsuhestia likewise claimed that the appearance of Christ was smaller than that of the children of Jacob (Israel). In the apocryphal Lentulus letter (see below) Christ is described as having had a reddish complexion, matching Muslim traditions in this respect. Christ's prediction that he would be taunted "Physician, heal yourself"[26] may suggest that Christ was indeed physically deformed ('crooked' or hunch-backed) as claimed in the early Christian texts listed above. In fact, Justin Martyr, Tertullian, and Ambrose actually considered lack of physical attractiveness in Jesus as fulfilling the Messianic prophecy "Suffering Servant" narrative of Isaiah 53.[27]

The description of Jesus' hair is very like Daniel's description of the Ancient of Days: "I watched till thrones were put in place, and the Ancient of Days was seated; His garment was white as snow, and the hair of His head was like pure wool. His throne was a fiery flame, its wheels a burning fire" (Daniel 7:9). White hair is usually associated with an elderly person who has gained wisdom through experience (Leviticus 19:32; Proverbs 16:31). God, being eternal, would be best described as being very old and very wise. Jesus, being a part of the Godhead and eternal, would share the same characteristic. Thus the symbols portraying God, the Father, in the Old Testament are now being applied to God, the Son, in the New Testament.

ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa

moldyoldy wrote:

You might be 100 years off

moldy: You are over 300 years off!!!!

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

You prove that you can copy and paste.... nothing more.

moldyoldy wrote:

After a little peyote, visions appear.

The New Testament includes no descriptions of Jesus' appearance before his death and the Gospel narratives are generally indifferent to people's racial appearance or features.[10][9][7]:48–51
The Synoptic Gospels include the account of the T***sfiguration of Jesus, during which he was glorified with "His face shining as the sun."[11][12] but this appearance is considered to refer to Jesus in unearthly form.
The Book of Revelation includes John's vision of the Son of Man: "...and His feet were like unto burnt brass, His head and His hairs were white like wool, as white as snow;" [other t***slations: "burnished bronze"], as if they burned in a furnace..." in a vision (1:13–16), but this vision is usually considered to refer to Jesus in heavenly form, not necessarily his appearance during his earthly life.[13][14]

Small and ugly.

As quoted by Eisler,[21]:393–394, 414–415 both Hierosolymitanus and John of Damascus claim that "the Jew Josephus" described Christ as having had connate eyebrows with goodly eyes and being long-faced, crooked and well-grown. In a letter of certain bishops to the Emperor Theophilus, Christ's height is described as three cubits (four feet six), which was also the opinion of Ephrem Syrus (320–379 AD), "God took human form and appeared in the form of three human ells (cubits); he came down to us small of stature." Theodore of Mopsuhestia likewise claimed that the appearance of Christ was smaller than that of the children of Jacob (Israel). In the apocryphal Lentulus letter (see below) Christ is described as having had a reddish complexion, matching Muslim traditions in this respect. Christ's prediction that he would be taunted "Physician, heal yourself"[26] may suggest that Christ was indeed physically deformed ('crooked' or hunch-backed) as claimed in the early Christian texts listed above. In fact, Justin Martyr, Tertullian, and Ambrose actually considered lack of physical attractiveness in Jesus as fulfilling the Messianic prophecy "Suffering Servant" narrative of Isaiah 53.[27]

The description of Jesus' hair is very like Daniel's description of the Ancient of Days: "I watched till thrones were put in place, and the Ancient of Days was seated; His garment was white as snow, and the hair of His head was like pure wool. His throne was a fiery flame, its wheels a burning fire" (Daniel 7:9). White hair is usually associated with an elderly person who has gained wisdom through experience (Leviticus 19:32; Proverbs 16:31). God, being eternal, would be best described as being very old and very wise. Jesus, being a part of the Godhead and eternal, would share the same characteristic. Thus the symbols portraying God, the Father, in the Old Testament are now being applied to God, the Son, in the New Testament.

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