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Jul 15, 2018 19:12:22   #
moldyoldy
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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You have all F**E NEWS CROOK!


You are a joke.

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Jul 15, 2018 19:35:05   #
Radiance3
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You are a joke.


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Shame on you free loader!

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Jul 15, 2018 19:52:09   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
moldyoldy wrote:
NOW if we could just get some accurate numbers.


Not from the heritage foundation or Hannity.

That total estimate is higher than figures estimated by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, about 11.4 million by January 2012. Pew Research Center estimated there were 11.3 million unauthorized immigrants in 2014.

http://www.politifact.com/t***h-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/01/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-illegal-immigration-costs-113-bi/


Most of the cost of wetbacks are borne by state and local government. Most Federal estimates do not include these numbers. Wetbacks, according to ga.gov cost GA taxpayers a little over 2 billion a year.

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Jul 15, 2018 21:12:19   #
moldyoldy
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Shame on you free loader!


You old hag, I worked steady for 55 years.

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Jul 15, 2018 21:27:29   #
maryjane
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
The wall would certainly help, however, no one should be fooled into believing it will stop all i*****l i*********n. Better than the wall would be to stop the reasons for coming here illegally. These include:

1, Stiff penalties for hiring i******s, including taking away business license.
2. Similar penalties for renting housing to i******s.
3. No government benefits or licenses to i******s
4. No education for i******s.
5. No citizenship for those born here unless one parent is a citizen.

I am sure others can add to the list, but you get he idea. To stop i*****l i*********n we have to stop any and all benefits that they obtain from coming here illegally. This would apply to those already here and they would deport themselves.
The wall would certainly help, however, no one sho... (show quote)


The t***h is that we need to do all of these things including the wall and sufficient patrols guarding it. Years ago, a message went out to the world that America had become weak, foolish and easily manipulated, that anyone could just cross its southern border and be taken in, given almost all rights/benefits/privileges of citizens, be given FREE such things as education, welfare and medical care, and never made to leave AND if you had a child with you, that was really a guarantee of entrance AND if you birthed a child on USA soil, you were set for life. Nothing will change for us until we change that message. Changing the message is neither complicated nor difficult. It only requires the crazy liberals relinqishing control of the country to conservatives with loyalty and commonsense AND changing congress into citizens actually loyal to and representing ONLY the best interests of the USA and American citizens.

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Jul 15, 2018 21:42:05   #
Radiance3
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You old hag, I worked steady for 55 years.


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Ninety percent of democrats and liberals are free loaders. You sound one of them. That include all 23 million i*****l a***ns and Muslim radicals.

I am a multi-millionaire and pay so much tax to feed the free loaders. Shame on you. I was a professional Accountant, and worked two jobs until I retired at 66. I've invested both in stocks and real estate. I made the best use of my business sk**ls, worked hard for 46 years until I retired. Now I share most of my assets to those who need most both in the US and around the world. Because I cannot bring them with me.

You've challenged me to disclose who I am.
I am not an old hag as you've stated. I am 69 years old, very healthy and active in community development, helping those less fortunate.

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Jul 15, 2018 21:42:30   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
maryjane wrote:
The t***h is that we need to do all of these things including the wall and sufficient patrols guarding it. Years ago, a message went out to the world that America had become weak, foolish and easily manipulated, that anyone could just cross its southern border and be taken in, given almost all rights/benefits/privileges of citizens, be given FREE such things as education, welfare and medical care, and never made to leave AND if you had a child with you, that was really a guarantee of entrance AND if you birthed a child on USA soil, you were set for life. Nothing will change for us until we change that message. Changing the message is neither complicated nor difficult. It only requires the crazy liberals relinqishing control of the country to conservatives with loyalty and commonsense AND changing congress into citizens actually loyal to and representing ONLY the best interests of the USA and American citizens.
The t***h is that we need to do all of these thing... (show quote)

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maryjane I agree with everything you have said here and it is all just common sense of which liberals have none.

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Jul 15, 2018 21:52:49   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
tbutkovich wrote:
The cost of dealing with i*****l i*********n is $113 Billion by the states and federal government. Cost for the border wall is budgeted to be $33 Billion. If the American taxpayer was controlling the budget, the choice would be simple. A no brainer! The left and the democrats don’t want the wall because they would rather waste taxpayer monies and have the chaos that goes with it. Yes, another Democrat supported debacle whose cost is laid at the feet of the American taxpayer!




Any fool who scoffs at a border wall, isn't smart enough to realize the savings to the American tax payers would be astronomical.
Or they're for open borders for any piece of vermin to come in..and in that case, said people should be exported immediately.

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Jul 15, 2018 21:57:44   #
tbutkovich
 
moldyoldy wrote:
NOW if we could just get some accurate numbers.


Not from the heritage foundation or Hannity.

That total estimate is higher than figures estimated by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, about 11.4 million by January 2012. Pew Research Center estimated there were 11.3 million unauthorized immigrants in 2014.

http://www.politifact.com/t***h-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/01/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-illegal-immigration-costs-113-bi/


The National Economics Editorial States the budgeted costs for i*****l I*********n in California is $30.3 Billion or 17.7 % of the States annual budget. This is just the state of California’s budget. Add to that the budget allocated for the other states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona. Add to that the federal budget and the numbers are astronomical. The throw in a multiplier of five more years of this, and we approach a trillion dollar problem. No Worry, taxpayers just need to dig a little deeper. The democrats don’t mind giving money to outsiders while they ignore those people living in their Congressional districts. Maxine Waters supports i*****l i*******ts but the number of homeless people in her district has climbed to record numbers. Drive down the streets of her district and you will see tents lining the streets, block after block. Companies have cancelled had planned to have conventions in the city are beginning to avoid the city as the homeless problem has grown to epidemic proportions. Democrats and the left pretend they are for the American people but they have chosen to ignore the people they are supposed to represent. Deranged Democrats, deranged supporters of the Democratic Party need to open their eyes and see the bitter t***h. So Sad! If they want to march down the street they need to strip off their “pro a******n signs” and replace them with “oust the losing politicians who ignore genuine commitments to the e*****rate.”

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Jul 15, 2018 21:58:52   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
moldyoldy wrote:
NOW if we could just get some accurate numbers.


Not from the heritage foundation or Hannity.

That total estimate is higher than figures estimated by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, about 11.4 million by January 2012. Pew Research Center estimated there were 11.3 million unauthorized immigrants in 2014.

http://www.politifact.com/t***h-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/01/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-illegal-immigration-costs-113-bi/


There are upwards of 30 million wetbacks in the U.S. The guess work is always stated too low for appearance sake.

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Jul 15, 2018 22:03:07   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You are a joke.


Why are you so upset moldy?..are you a wetback who worked here and never paid income tax.?

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Jul 15, 2018 22:19:17   #
Oldsailor65 Loc: Iowa
 
byronglimish wrote:
Why are you so upset moldy?..are you a wetback who worked here and never paid income tax.?

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I stole this from someone a few days ago



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Jul 15, 2018 22:24:33   #
tbutkovich
 
moldyoldy wrote:
NOW if we could just get some accurate numbers.


Not from the heritage foundation or Hannity.

That total estimate is higher than figures estimated by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, about 11.4 million by January 2012. Pew Research Center estimated there were 11.3 million unauthorized immigrants in 2014.

http://www.politifact.com/t***h-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/01/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-illegal-immigration-costs-113-bi/
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Put “your head around the fact” that the wall will allow the limited ICE agents protecting the border to better perform their duties related to intercepting i*****l i*******ts who find more difficult and cumbersome ways to cross the border rather than spending time at internment camps changing the baby diapers of immigrant children.

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Jul 15, 2018 22:31:23   #
moldyoldy
 
tbutkovich wrote:
The National Economics Editorial States the budgeted costs for i*****l I*********n in California is $30.3 Billion or 17.7 % of the States annual budget. This is just the state of California’s budget. Add to that the budget allocated for the other states of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona. Add to that the federal budget and the numbers are astronomical. The throw in a multiplier of five more years of this, and we approach a trillion dollar problem. No Worry, taxpayers just need to dig a little deeper. The democrats don’t mind giving money to outsiders while they ignore those people living in their Congressional districts. Maxine Waters supports i*****l i*******ts but the number of homeless people in her district has climbed to record numbers. Drive down the streets of her district and you will see tents lining the streets, block after block. Companies have cancelled had planned to have conventions in the city are beginning to avoid the city as the homeless problem has grown to epidemic proportions. Democrats and the left pretend they are for the American people but they have chosen to ignore the people they are supposed to represent. Deranged Democrats, deranged supporters of the Democratic Party need to open their eyes and see the bitter t***h. So Sad! If they want to march down the street they need to strip off their “pro a******n signs” and replace them with “oust the losing politicians who ignore genuine commitments to the e*****rate.”
The National Economics Editorial States the budget... (show quote)


Bias: Extreme Right, Propaganda
Notes: National Economics Editorial (NEE) is a news site that purports to support Economic Nationalism. While NEE does cover some economic issues it is, as the name implies, mainly an editorial site. The opinions expressed in the stories cover current affairs with a pronounced right wing bias. NEE is, on the whole, long on rhetoric and short on factual content and credible sourcing. Due to the overt bias and lack of factual information, NEE is rated Questionable. (D. Kelley 3/29/2017)

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Jul 15, 2018 22:35:38   #
tbutkovich
 
D. Kelley is no more an expert on the matter than was Peter Stroczk or James Comey on the Russian Collusion fiasco. Must be a left wing supporter like Cohen who believed Stroczk deserved the “Purple Heart.”

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