Cost of I*****l I*********n vs Cost of the Wall (Page 5): We are the more progressive silicon valley types. I******s are doing minimum wage jobs.

moldyoldy

Jakebrake wrote:

For once you are right Mold. Dimocrats aren't intelligent enough, or have the work ethic to be a farmer. Most illegal Mexicans aren't in the fields lil fella.

We are the more progressive silicon valley types. I******s are doing minimum wage jobs.

Abel

Amen to that!

maryjane wrote:

The t***h is that we need to do all of these thing... (show quote)

Loki Loc: Georgia

moldyoldy wrote:

We are the more progressive silicon valley types. I******s are doing minimum wage jobs.

That used to be done by high school kids, or college kids on a summer break.

moldyoldy

Loki wrote:

That used to be done by high school kids, or college kids on a summer break.

US kids are spoiled now, you know they don't work for the most part.

Loki Loc: Georgia

moldyoldy wrote:

US kids are spoiled now, you know they don't work for the most part.

Whose fault is that? My folks gave me a little money during the school year, but once school ended for the year, so did the handouts. I was expected to get my ass out and find a job like all the other kids. I didn't even get a drivers' license until I had earned and saved enough money to pay for the extra insurance.

moldyoldy

Loki wrote:

Whose fault is that? My folks gave me a little money during the school year, but once school ended for the year, so did the handouts. I was expected to get my ass out and find a job like all the other kids. I didn't even get a drivers' license until I had earned and saved enough money to pay for the extra insurance.

I started working steady at 12, picked everything they had in South Carolina, and worked in the Funeral Home on weekends.
But, I think that might have been before your time. We chose to make life better for the kids, for better or worse.

Loki Loc: Georgia

moldyoldy wrote:

I started working steady at 12, picked everything they had in South Carolina, and worked in the Funeral Home on weekends.
But, I think that might have been before your time. We chose to make life better for the kids, for better or worse.

You don't make it better by letting them be useless couch potatoes. When I was a kid, we had summer jobs, mowing lawns, working at local farms and ranches, doing something. There weren't any burger flipping places.
Landscaping crews were filled out with high school kids who needed to make car payments. If you weren't in school you were expected to at least have some kind of part time job.

moldyoldy

Loki wrote:

You don't make it better by letting them be useless couch potatoes. When I was a kid, we had summer jobs, mowing lawns, working at local farms and ranches, doing something. There weren't any burger flipping places.
Landscaping crews were filled out with high school kids who needed to make car payments. If you weren't in school you were expected to at least have some kind of part time job.

I don't disagree with you, but maybe 1 in 10 parents expect anything more than taking out the trash today. A few years back college grads were working those burger joints because there was no work. Today I see young adults working burgers, not teens. Teens have all kinds of school activities that the parents think will make them rich.

Iamdjchrys Loc: Decatur, Texas

[quote=Liberty Tree]The wall would certainly help, however, no one should be fooled into believing it will stop all i*****l i*********n. Better than the wall would be to stop the reasons for coming here illegally. These include:

1, Stiff penalties for hiring i******s, including taking away business license.
2. Similar penalties for renting housing to i******s.
3. No government benefits or licenses to i******s
4. No education for i******s.
5. No citizenship for those born here unless one parent is a citizen.

I am sure others can add to the list, but you get he idea. To stop i*****l i*********n we have to stop any and all benefits that they obtain from coming here illegally. This would apply to those already here and they would deport themselves.[/quote

Like the $1 an hour they get from working in our fields? It's not just harvests, yanno

Loki Loc: Georgia

moldyoldy wrote:

I don't disagree with you, but maybe 1 in 10 parents expect anything more than taking out the trash today. A few years back college grads were working those burger joints because there was no work. Today I see young adults working burgers, not teens. Teens have all kinds of school activities that the parents think will make them rich.

You mean things other than gainful employment and balancing the budget of wh**ever money they earn from said employment?

Loki Loc: Georgia

[quote=Iamdjchrys][quote=Liberty Tree]The wall would certainly help, however, no one should be fooled into believing it will stop all i*****l i*********n. Better than the wall would be to stop the reasons for coming here illegally. These include:

1, Stiff penalties for hiring i******s, including taking away business license.
2. Similar penalties for renting housing to i******s.
3. No government benefits or licenses to i******s
4. No education for i******s.
5. No citizenship for those born here unless one parent is a citizen.

I am sure others can add to the list, but you get he idea. To stop i*****l i*********n we have to stop any and all benefits that they obtain from coming here illegally. This would apply to those already here and they would deport themselves.[/quote

Like the $1 an hour they get from working in our fields? It's not just harvests, yanno[/quote]

You forgot E Verify. Stolen and fraudulent ID's are very common. It is not always the employer's fault. You should say stiff penalties for knowingly hiring i******s. Once E Verify is in place it will be harder for them to get jobs with f**e ID.