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Jul 9, 2018 23:45:02   #
EmilyD
 
ron vrooman wrote:
I see where you miss IT.

You see exceptions to the rule on infanticide. There is no exception in freedom and liberty. It's just a little infanticide however we cannot attach our guilt to the female American Citizen. So we ignore it this time. Are you new? what about those other 90% cures besides cunnaligus. (sp) I can see it but can't spell it.


"It's just a little infanticide" says it all. I really hope that viewpoints like yours are used to overturn Roe v Wade. And your point about "cunnilingus" is noted. Thanks for the help with overriding RvW.

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Jul 10, 2018 00:09:31   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
I agree I have 4 daughters[one adopted at 14] 7 grandkids. 1 ggdaughter. Emotionally I agree . Been there done that. Has nothing to do with unalienable rights.?! unless someone appoints a date.??

EmilyD wrote:
Unless someone appoints a date. I want to speak for the babies, ron vrooman. If you aren't a father I understand, but if you have a baby in your arms and look her or him in their blue eyes (isn't it amazing that all babies are born with blue elyes that change as they develop) and don't feel the love at that moment. You will not understand. And when your doctor shows you an ultrasound of your baby's beating heart and moving arms and legs, you will not understand. You will never understand until you see it for yourself. It IS a miracle.
Unless someone appoints a date. I want to speak fo... (show quote)

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Jul 10, 2018 00:17:12   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
of course. However, there is no law after 1860 or 61. Only color of law and legal fiction is repugnant.

EmilyD wrote:
"It's just a little infanticide" says it all. I really hope that viewpoints like yours are used to overturn Roe v Wade. And your point about "cunnilingus" is noted. Thanks for the help with overriding RvW.

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Jul 10, 2018 01:20:02   #
EmilyD
 
ron vrooman wrote:
I agree I have 4 daughters[one adopted at 14] 7 grandkids. 1 ggdaughter. Emotionally I agree . Been there done that. Has nothing to do with inalienable rights.?! unless someone appoints a date.??


Are you glad that those women didn't opt to rip your grandkids, ggdaughters and daughter out of their wombs? Is that what you mean by inalienable rights?

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Jul 10, 2018 01:49:46   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
I think the word is unalienable. Yes all of those women chose to carry their kids to term. Do all women with children have all of the kids from all of their pregnancies? what does that have to do with the discussion? Everyone has emotions and personal preference that is why we have the rule of law and it is written.

EmilyD wrote:
Are you glad that those women didn't opt to rip your grandkids, ggdaughters and daughter out of their wombs? Is that what you mean by inalienable rights?

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Jul 10, 2018 02:05:26   #
EmilyD
 
ron vrooman wrote:
I think the word is unalienable. Yes all of those women chose to carry their kids to term. Do all women with children have all of the kids from all of their pregnancies? what does that have to do with the discussion? Everyone has emotions and personal preference that is why we have the rule of law and it is written.


You want to dismiss the emotion part. That is what is wrong. It is the ultimate part of this conversation. If you are not a woman, you might just not get it. If you are a woman, I pity you for not getting it.

Children being able to live life before being born and trusting the person that caused life to be able to be born is the discussion.

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Jul 10, 2018 06:27:40   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
bmac32 wrote:
No a******n should ever be used as birth control, ever!


Amen and amen I totally agree with you.

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Jul 10, 2018 06:39:11   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
JoyV wrote:
Yes. A woman has the right to decide whether or not to have a child. Once that decision is made, it is her responsibility to see to the child's needs, or see that the child is given to someone else who will do so. She should not have the right to change her mind by eliminating the child from her body once the child exists. The choice was already made before she got pregnant. She CHOSE to engage in pregnancy causing activity without preventing herself getting pregnant (unless she was raped). That choice was hers to make and she made it. One made she could still change her mind on raising a child, but should not have the right to decide on whether or not that child has the right to live. She chose to start a baby inside her body, by not preventing it. That was her choice. To end its life is no different than ending its life after birth. Would you feel the same about a private individual who decides to eliminate a baby after 11 months from the start of her pregnancy? No one should force her to raise a child she does not want. She could choose not to raise a child by giving it up for adopting. But should her right to live her life without being saddled by a child mean she should be legally allowed to commit infanticide? Now maybe some feel infanticide should be legal. Aborting an unborn baby is also infanticide which is legal because of the age of the infant, counting from the start of pregnancy.
Yes. A woman has the right to decide whether or no... (show quote)


JoyV, I am obviously a man and I have never in almost eighty years heard of a eleven months pregnant woman.

Maybe my dear wife had our son two months early in her nineth month.

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Jul 10, 2018 06:46:31   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Then the woman should be convicted of murder, right?

Only God has the right to abort a life.

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Jul 10, 2018 07:16:26   #
Bug58
 
EL wrote:
A woman has no control over her life is she gets pregnant when she doesn't want to.


That's a LOW opinion of women saying she has NO control over her life if she gets pregnant when she doesn't want to, who the hell has control over her life???

I'm curious do you also think a woman has no control over her life if she gets pregnant WHEN SHE actually WANTS too???

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Jul 10, 2018 07:20:28   #
Bug58
 
EmilyD wrote:
"It's just a little infanticide" says it all. I really hope that viewpoints like yours are used to overturn Roe v Wade. And your point about "cunnilingus" is noted. Thanks for the help with overriding RvW.


If the SC were to take up Roe Vs Wade ALL that would happen is it would throw the decision BACK to the States to decide, and right now a******n is legal in all 50 states, some w/ exceptions (as per reasons), so unless the STATES actually change the law then the lawmakers in those states would need to change the law.

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Jul 10, 2018 07:37:19   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Kevyn wrote:
This statement makes more sense than any of your posts. Men should have no influence over a woman’s reproductive choices it is hers and hers alone.



Answer this, Kevyn. I predict, you won't.

Did the woman decide to engage in sexual intercourse or not? If she voluntarily engaged in the sex act, that's her choice. Pregancny is a logical possible consequence of the sex act, which you may not know. If you put a cartridge in a revolver and spin the barrel, if you point it at someone, pull the trigger & k**l him, you're responsible for it.

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Jul 10, 2018 08:30:09   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
old marine wrote:
Only God has the right to abort a life.


God is an a******nist!!!!

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Jul 10, 2018 09:28:36   #
Carol Kelly
 
TrueAmerican wrote:
If she does not wish to practice protection against pregnancy, and becomes pregnant, and decides to abort, and does so as soon as possible after learning she is pregnant, then I have no problem with it, as long as she and her playmate pay for it themselves, and not require taxpayers to do so through an organization such as planned parenthood (the irony in the name always sickens me). I did not participate in the act of creating the pregnancy, and for the life of me do not why myself or any other taxpayer shold help pay for said a******n. It's like the old sayin goes "you gotta pay to play" Nuff said !!!!!!
If she does not wish to practice protection agains... (show quote)


I couldn’t agree more. Murder is murder period.

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Jul 10, 2018 09:42:53   #
Lonewolf
 
Without the a******n issue, the republicans will have no platform left .
I v**ed republican for years because of this issue ,without it I can see no reason why anyone would v**e republican again!

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