bobgssc

This might well be the most stupid response you have ever posted. Has absolutely nothing to do with the article presented. But, thanks for sharing!

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Well, I should have gone back for all the links provided, but didn't...before I posted. I did find out which one, by searching. Maybe your latest will help others who wouldn't take the time to figure it out. :thumbup:

Worried for our children Loc: Massachusetts

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bmac32 Loc: West Florida

You might want to check the dates of the articles as it's been changed 31 times.

Forbes 1/13/2012
LA 3/10, 2014

MOre buls**t might come back to haunt you!

The Dutchman

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Even the liberals are confused by all the changes. Half baked but that is nothing unusual.

The Dutchman

It would appear as though liberals are confused about everything Eh!

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Liberals jump at every first chance, never mind the facts they can change those later.

Hungry Freaks

Talked to my agent about a month ago. Nothing had changed up to that point.

I'm not a big fan of the ACA-too complicated.

But the ultra right fringe keeps up with the death panel nonsense, the lies about going to prison if you don't buy insurance-all proven lies-it makes me wonder why you don't focus on the real problems with the legislation.

Instead, more bulls**t. I know, Obama's from Kenya. yada, yada, yada.

The Dutchman

The Dutchman wrote:
It would appear as though liberals are confused about everything Eh!



Liberalism is a simple concept:
If you have it, they want it,
If you make it, they want to control it,
And if they don’t get their way,
They cry like a baby, and pay homage to the obozo!

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

He is? er was, really from Kenya? Can you prove where he's from?

Prison, now that's a first, fined yeah but prison, really?

Hungry Freaks

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No, Faux actually said it over and over. When, in reply to a constituents worries about going to prison if she did't buy health insurance, Senator Tom Colbourn (sp?), a conservative Republican from Oklahoma told her and the group that she was with, on film, that it was "something made up by Fox."

Bill O'Reilly had Colbourn (sp?) on and castigated him for blaming Fox. "No one on Fox has every said that," O'Reilly said. the senator replied that his constituents got the information from somewhere and, since Faux is most popular with his constituents and since Faux had been hammering at the point, he assumed that where she got it. .

Some wag dug up 11 incidents when Fox, on film, claimed that prison or jail was where those who didn't buy health insurance would go. Glen Beck discussed with O'Reilly about the jail/prison "option." This all before O'Reilly publicaly made fun of Colbourn for making Faux "a whipping boy."

Yet O'Reilly still wouldn't admit that Faux lied. "That's all that other stuff," was O'Reilly replied when confronted with the tapes of Faux staff talking about jail/prison for those who didn't buy health insurance. What other stuff? The t***h?

The O'Reilly tried to hide behind the "well, these are just opinion people, not news staff" although it was repeated by news staff and media op-ed folks are exempt from telling the t***h when they state, as fact, that someone will go to jail/prison if the do something.

No, you will not go to jail/prison if you don't buy health insurance. Faux just liked about it.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

No it did not get started on FOX but the leftwing web site will have to believe that, and you bought it, shame on you!

Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) received a handwritten note Thursday from Joint Committee on Taxation Chief of Staff Tom Barthold confirming the penalty for failing to pay the up to $1,900 fee for not buying health insurance.

Violators could be charged with a misdemeanor and could face up to a year in jail or a $25,000 penalty.

If Fox News personalities are to blame for suggesting jail time for Obamacare evaders, so is Keith Olbermann. He said on December 16:

We must not buy federally-mandated insurance. [...]

I hereby pledge that I will not buy this perversion of health-care reform. Pass this at your peril, senators. And sign it at yours, Mr. President. I will not buy this insurance. Brand me a law-breaker if you choose. Fine me if you will. Jail me if you must.

So what actually happens to you if you don't buy insurance? The government says you have to pay a fee of $695 or 2.5% of adjusted gross income. And if you don't pay the fee? According to the Congressional Research Service, the only way the government can collect the funds is by withholding future tax rebates.

So what actually happens to you if you don't buy insurance? The government says you have to pay a fee of $695 or 2.5% of adjusted gross income. And if you don't pay the fee? According to the Congressional Research Service, the only way the government can collect the funds is by withholding future tax rebates:

Taxpayers who are required to pay a penalty but fail to do so will receive a notice from Internal Revenue Service (IRS) that they owe the penalty. If they still do not pay the penalty, the IRS can attempt to collect the funds by reducing the amount of their tax refund in the future. However, individuals who fail to pay the penalty will not be subject to any criminal prosecution or penalty for such failure. The Secretary can not file notice of lien or levy on any property for a taxpayer who does not pay the penalty.

As long as you make sure too much money isn't withheld from your paycheck, you won't have to pay a dime if you go without health insurance. And then, if you get sick, insurance companies are prohibited from denying you insurance coverage. In other words, the individual mandate is completely unworkable. Get ready for the insurance spiral of death -- if Republicans don't repeal Obamacare in time.

The Dutchman

We keep hearing the far left wing nut nitwits crying about FOX News. It must be because it's #1 in the nation and the obozo can't control it.....

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

The Robert Powell Center for Medical Ethics at the National Right to Life released a report on Thursday that warns that the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) will not allow consumers to spend what they choose on their own health care, including access to life-saving treatments.

As the March 31, 2014 deadline approaches for open enrollment in the insurance exchanges established by Obamacare, the report, “The Affordable Care Act and Health Care Access in the United States” analyzed four key policy areas of Obamacare and concluded that Obamacare would drastically limit access to life-saving medical treatment under the law.

The four areas the center examined includes the “excess benefit” tax coming into effect in 2018, the current exclusion of adequate health Insurance plans from the exchanges, present limits on senior citizens’ ability to use their own money for health insurance, and federal limits on the care doctors give their patients to be implemented as soon as 2016.

Those four policy areas that were examined are:

“Obamacare imposes a 40% excise tax on employer-paid health insurance premiums above a governmental imposed limit that does not keep up with medical inflation. Consequently, insurance companies will be forced to impose increasingly severe restraints on policy-holders’ access to medical diagnosis and treatment—limits that will make it harder to get often-expensive treatments essential to combating life-threatening illnesses.”

“Under Obamacare, consumers using the exchanges may only choose plans offered by insurers who do not allow their customers to spend what government bureaucrats deem an “excessive or unjustified” amount for their health insurance – regardless of whether the insurers offer such plans inside or outside of the exchanges established by the law.”

“Most senior citizens know that the law will significantly cut government funding for Medicare. However, they may not be aware of the law’s provision allowing Washington bureaucrats to prevent them from making up the Medicare shortfall with their own funds by limiting their right to spend their own money to obtain insurance less likely to limit treatments that could save their lives.”

“The “Independent Payment Advisory Board” is directed to recommend measures to limit spending on health care to a growth rate below medical inflation – not just for Medicare, but also for all private, nongovernmental health care spending. The federal Department of Health & Human Services (HHS) is then authorized to implement these measures by placing limits on the treatments providers may give their patients by requiring them to abide by so-called “quality and efficiency standards” imposed by HHS.”

Carol Tobias, president of National Right to Life said, “For pro-life Americans concerned about the impact on innocent human life… both born and unborn; the policies of Obamacare couldn’t be worse.”

“Americans are just as concerned with the law’s impact on our ability to access life-saving medical treatment for ourselves, our family members, and our loved ones as with Obamacare’s funding of a******ns. Obamacare is bad medicine for America.”

In the report, it part it said, “Essentially, doctors, hospitals, and other health care providers can be told by Washington just what diagnostic tests and medical care are considered to meet “quality and efficiency” standards. These standards will be enforced not just for health care paid for by federally funded programs like Medicare, but also for health care paid for by private citizens and by the health insurance they or their employers purchase.”

In 2009, former Governor of Alaska and former 2008 Republican candidate for Vice-President, Sarah Palin spoke about the death panels in her notes on her Facebook.

In her post, Palin said, “The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s “death panel” so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their “level of productivity in society,” whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil.”

“Health care by definition involves life and death decisions. Human rights and human dignity must be at the center of any health care discussion.”

In addition, in July 2013, the Paulding County Republican Examiner reported that former Democratic p**********l candidate and Democratic Party National Chairman, Howard Dean essentially admitted that Republicans and Sarah Palin were right concerning Obamacare death panels.

The concern by the Robert Powell Center for Medical Ethics points to those that are sick or have pre-existing conditions may end up dying due to Obamcare.

“Obamacare authorizes Washington bureaucrats to create one uniform, national standard of care that is designed to limit what private citizens are allowed to spend to save their own lives,” Burke Balch, J.D., director of the Robert Powell Center for Medical Ethics said. “We are convinced most Americans do not believe that the government should limit the right of Americans to use their own money for health care necessary to save their lives.”

“Yet, that is exactly what Obamacare does.”