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Mar 10, 2014 18:40:17   #
The Dutchman
 
"Is Obamacare placing limits on seniors that may place many on them in danger of dying early. Does death panels ring a bell?"

And yes I copied the article, cleaned all the advertising out of it , then pasted it in here, So if this upsets the crybabies in here that don’t like it, and or don’t know how to do it, and have created a rule against doing so, I provided the URL to the site below.
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Obamacare Limits How Much Seniors Can Spend Of Their Own Money on Healthcare Insurance
Posted By Dave Jolly on Mar 10, 2014 | 50 Comments seniors obamacare

We’ve been hearing about one negative aspect of Obamacare after another. Two years ago I reported on some 20 different taxes that were being imposed by Obamacare. From increases in taxes on dividends and medical devices, to increasing the medical deductions that you subtract from your itemized federal income tax from 7.5% to 10%.

According to a recent report from the Robert Powell Center for Medical Ethics at the Nation Right to Life Committee, Obamacare is also imposing a 40% excise tax:

“Obamacare imposes a 40% excise tax on employer-paid health insurance premiums above a governmentally imposed limit that does not keep up with medical inflation. Consequently, insurance companies will be forced to impose increasingly severe restraints on policy-holders’ access to medical diagnosis and treatment—limits that will make it harder to get often-expensive treatments essential to combatting life-threatening illnesses.”

The same report also stated that the Independent Payment Advisory Board has been instructed to set limits to the spending on healthcare to a growth rate below the medical inflation rate. These spending limits will then be used to set limits on what treatments that patients can receive from their providers. This is what they call the quality and efficiency standards that will be imposed by the Department of Health and Human Services.

Additionally, people using the exchanges to get their plans are not allowed to spend what the government considers excessive or unjustified amounts for their health plans. It doesn’t matter if the insurers offer the same plans within or outside the exchanges.

Lastly, the report revealed that Obamacare is placing limits on seniors that may place many on them in danger of dying early. The report stated:

“Most senior citizens know that the law will significantly cut government funding for Medicare, but they may not be aware of the law’s provision allowing Washington bureaucrats to prevent them from making up the Medicare shortfall with their own funds by limiting their right to spend their own money to obtain insurance less likely to limit treatments that could save their lives.”

In other words, if Medicare does not cover their chronic or severe illness or condition, Obamacare’s limitation could prevent them from spending their own money to purchase a quality health plan that will cover their needs. If they can’t get the coverage they need within the spending limits, then they have to face life without the necessary treatment and most likely either a miserable life or an earlier than necessary death.

I find it very dictatorial to limit citizens on how much they want to spend on their own healthcare above and beyond what the government insurance gives them. What business is it of theirs how much extra we spend on ourselves? I have no idea what their justification is for this limitation other than insuring that many seniors may die sooner without the needed coverage for treatment, thus getting them off the government dole sooner. The government doesn’t want older people living any longer than necessary so that they won’t be a drain on the system.

This is just further evidence of the socialistic government that Obama has been establishing; one where people are limited to how much they can spend of their own money on their own health. It’s only time before they start controlling other aspects of our private lives and private finances.

http://lastresistance.com/5004/obamacare-limits-much-seniors-can-spend-money-healthcare-insurance/

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Mar 10, 2014 19:10:08   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Nowhere Does Obamacare Limit the Benefits for Seniors


http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/01/13/will-obamacare-end-active-medical-intervention-at-age-70/

Complete nonsense, uttered by fools, in a despicable attempt to frighten the elderly!



The Dutchman wrote:
"Is Obamacare placing limits on seniors that may place many on them in danger of dying early. Does death panels ring a bell?"

And yes I copied the article, cleaned all the advertising out of it , then pasted it in here, So if this upsets the crybabies in here that don’t like it, and or don’t know how to do it, and have created a rule against doing so, I provided the URL to the site below.
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Obamacare Limits How Much Seniors Can Spend Of Their Own Money on Healthcare Insurance
Posted By Dave Jolly on Mar 10, 2014 | 50 Comments seniors obamacare

We’ve been hearing about one negative aspect of Obamacare after another. Two years ago I reported on some 20 different taxes that were being imposed by Obamacare. From increases in taxes on dividends and medical devices, to increasing the medical deductions that you subtract from your itemized federal income tax from 7.5% to 10%.

According to a recent report from the Robert Powell Center for Medical Ethics at the Nation Right to Life Committee, Obamacare is also imposing a 40% excise tax:

“Obamacare imposes a 40% excise tax on employer-paid health insurance premiums above a governmentally imposed limit that does not keep up with medical inflation. Consequently, insurance companies will be forced to impose increasingly severe restraints on policy-holders’ access to medical diagnosis and treatment—limits that will make it harder to get often-expensive treatments essential to combatting life-threatening illnesses.”

The same report also stated that the Independent Payment Advisory Board has been instructed to set limits to the spending on healthcare to a growth rate below the medical inflation rate. These spending limits will then be used to set limits on what treatments that patients can receive from their providers. This is what they call the quality and efficiency standards that will be imposed by the Department of Health and Human Services.

Additionally, people using the exchanges to get their plans are not allowed to spend what the government considers excessive or unjustified amounts for their health plans. It doesn’t matter if the insurers offer the same plans within or outside the exchanges.

Lastly, the report revealed that Obamacare is placing limits on seniors that may place many on them in danger of dying early. The report stated:

“Most senior citizens know that the law will significantly cut government funding for Medicare, but they may not be aware of the law’s provision allowing Washington bureaucrats to prevent them from making up the Medicare shortfall with their own funds by limiting their right to spend their own money to obtain insurance less likely to limit treatments that could save their lives.”

In other words, if Medicare does not cover their chronic or severe illness or condition, Obamacare’s limitation could prevent them from spending their own money to purchase a quality health plan that will cover their needs. If they can’t get the coverage they need within the spending limits, then they have to face life without the necessary treatment and most likely either a miserable life or an earlier than necessary death.

I find it very dictatorial to limit citizens on how much they want to spend on their own healthcare above and beyond what the government insurance gives them. What business is it of theirs how much extra we spend on ourselves? I have no idea what their justification is for this limitation other than insuring that many seniors may die sooner without the needed coverage for treatment, thus getting them off the government dole sooner. The government doesn’t want older people living any longer than necessary so that they won’t be a drain on the system.

This is just further evidence of the socialistic government that Obama has been establishing; one where people are limited to how much they can spend of their own money on their own health. It’s only time before they start controlling other aspects of our private lives and private finances.

http://lastresistance.com/5004/obamacare-limits-much-seniors-can-spend-money-healthcare-insurance/
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Mar 10, 2014 19:36:46   #
The Dutchman
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Nowhere Does Obamacare Limit the Benefits for Seniors


Screw forbes ragazine, I have seen first hand cut's on medicare benefits to seniors in this area.

http://if.inboxfirst.com/ga/webviews/2-580778-4-10832-21256-ed9e4195b2





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Mar 10, 2014 22:19:44   #
Hungry Freaks
 
The Dutchman wrote:
Screw forbes ragazine, I have seen first hand cut's on medicare benefits to seniors in this area.

http://if.inboxfirst.com/ga/webviews/2-580778-4-10832-21256-ed9e4195b2


MOre bulls**t. I've been looking into Medicare, since i did turn 65, and have talked to an agent, within the last month, about a "medigap" policy that fills in for what Medicare pays for and what it doesn't. There are no such restrictions on what policy you can get and how much you can pay for it. None whatsoever.

Another lame thread. When you gonna break 400?

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Mar 10, 2014 22:22:11   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
Nowhere Does Obamacare Limit the Benefits for Seniors


http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/01/13/will-obamacare-end-active-medical-intervention-at-age-70/

Complete nonsense, uttered by fools, in a despicable attempt to frighten the elderly!

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Mar 10, 2014 23:53:43   #
The Dutchman
 
Hungry Freaks wrote:


Just another mindless rant from a coward that discredits todays Military by claiming to have served!

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Mar 11, 2014 00:56:54   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
Proven wrong again!


The Dutchman wrote:
Just another mindless rant from a coward that discredits todays Military by claiming to have served!

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Mar 11, 2014 10:54:17   #
Retired669
 
Hungry Freaks wrote:
MOre bulls**t. I've been looking into Medicare, since i did turn 65, and have talked to an agent, within the last month, about a "medigap" policy that fills in for what Medicare pays for and what it doesn't. There are no such restrictions on what policy you can get and how much you can pay for it. None whatsoever.

Another lame thread. When you gonna break 400?




I wonder if duncemans full time job is a circus carnie when he can find work? :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Baa aaa aaa aaa.... :lol:

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Mar 11, 2014 13:04:23   #
Had enough
 
By denouncing the claims here those on the left are just as much to blame for The early deaths that may occur as odumbo will be. How can you on the left look the other way? You will be elderly one day too. What about your Moms and Dads? Are you really ok with them dying earlier than necessary?

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Mar 11, 2014 13:04:23   #
Had enough
 
By denouncing the claims here those on the left are just as much to blame for The early deaths that may occur as odumbo will be. How can you on the left look the other way? You will be elderly one day too. What about your Moms and Dads? Are you really ok with them dying earlier than necessary?

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Mar 11, 2014 13:08:06   #
Hungry Freaks
 
I trust my insurance salesman more than I trust you dutch boy.

And I really could give a flying f**k what whether you believe I served. Besides, I didn't "serve" in the voluntary sense. I was drafted.

You seem to be having an echo chamber effect in your posts. I called you a coward-and we all know why-and now it turns up in response to my post, which you don't even print. Think creatively. Stop copying others.

And you have nerve talking about discrediting the military. You do it with every post in that sicko avatar of yours. As I said, why don't you grow a pair and go spit in the face of a young person currently serving.

To think my tax dollars are supporting you makes me sick. Talk about non-producers. All you produce, and have probably produced in your entire life, is mouth.



The Dutchman wrote:
Just another mindless rant from a coward that discredits todays Military by claiming to have served!

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Mar 11, 2014 13:10:57   #
Hungry Freaks
 
Yeah, screw one of the premier financial magazines on the market and believe a ultra-right fringe blog with a stated bias instead.

You reveal more about yourself with every post.

The Dutchman wrote:
Screw forbes ragazine, I have seen first hand cut's on medicare benefits to seniors in this area.

http://if.inboxfirst.com/ga/webviews/2-580778-4-10832-21256-ed9e4195b2

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Mar 11, 2014 13:16:32   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
This is not meant to argumentative; however, your referenced article is two years old. The IRS and HHS have written so many new regulations since passage of the bill there may be new regulations effecting various allowance of services.

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Mar 11, 2014 13:23:17   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
AuntiE wrote:
This is not meant to argumentative; however, your referenced article is two years old. The IRS and HHS have written so many new regulations since passage of the bill there may be new regulations effecting various allowance of services.


Sorry, AuntiE. I don't know to whom you are speaking, with regards to the article/link.

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Mar 11, 2014 13:27:41   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
slatten49 wrote:
Sorry, AuntiE. I don't know to whom you are speaking, with regards to the article/link.


For some reason, it did not show up as a "Quote Reply" for a reference link Raylon posted. The article referenced was from 2012.

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