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Why can't America have high-speed trains?
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Sep 2, 2017 11:49:29   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
Depends where , pretty sure it would move quickly here...we have the materials and labor, the RR carries a big stick here.

I have seen the machine used to lay the tracks that offshoot to the docking area...... ......looks like it would put down a couple few miles a day, as long as it was fed the timbers and track......go both ways......very cool piece of equipment, very few Mescans needed
Depends where , pretty sure it would move quickly ... (show quote)


That machine sounds interesting, I wonder what they cost and how many in use in something as you describe..
I thought this interesting as is the subject~~ Take a read ~~

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail

While commercial high-speed trains have lower maximum speeds than jet aircraft, they offer shorter total trip times than air travel for short distances. They typically connect city centre rail stations to each other, while air t***sport connects airports that are typically farther from city centres.

High-speed rail (HSR) is best suited for journeys of 1 to 4½ hours (about 150–900 km or 93–559 mi), for which the train can beat air and car trip time.[citation needed] For trips under about 700 km (430 mi), the process of checking in and going through airport security, as well as traveling to and from the airport, makes the total air journey time equal to or slower than HSR.[citation needed] European authorities treat HSR as competitive with passenger air for HSR trips under 4½ hours.[51]

HSR eliminated most air t***sport from between Paris-Lyon, Paris-Brussels, Cologne-Frankfurt, Madrid-Barcelona, Nanjing-W***n, Chongqing-Chengdu,[52] Tokyo-Nagoya, Tokyo-Sendai and Tokyo-Niigata. China Southern Airlines, China's largest airline, expects the construction of China's high-speed railway network to impact (through increased competition and falling revenues) 25% of its route network in the coming years.[53]

Market shares Edit
European data indicate that air traffic is more sensitive than road traffic (car and bus) to competition from HSR, at least on journeys of 400 km (249 mi) and more. TGV Sud-Est reduced the travel time Paris–Lyon from almost four to about two hours. Market share rose from 40 to 72%. Air and road market shares shrunk from 31 to 7% and from 29 to 21%, respectively. On the Madrid–Sevilla link, the AVE connection increased share from 16 to 52%; air traffic shrunk from 40 to 13%; road traffic from 44 to 36%, hence the rail market amounted to 80% of combined rail and air traffic.[54] This figure increased to 89% in 2009, according to Spanish rail operator RENFE.[55] ~~~Snip~~~

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Sep 2, 2017 21:03:45   #
teabag09
 
Point taken if you live in a city with good public t***sportation. Where I live a bike isn't even convenient. Everything is too far. We used to do with horse and mule and everyone b***hed about the droppings. Things will change with time and advancements but until then we will have to do with what we have. Mike
Morgan wrote:
You have solid points here tb, but we need to look at what other more progressive places are doing and they are not in this country because they have us so fixed on us using cars and their fuel. This is why where I am they have the lights timed so we have to stop at every single light. They have them where you just get to 60mph and get a yellow light, this is not by accident. You go to another city out of America and they use more than buses and trains, they use trams, they are beautiful for the short stops around the city. There is a flow to the cities, it looks like it verges on insanity, but it works! Similar to the blood flow in our bodies. There very few lights instead they have round-a-bouts. When things are more convenient and less expensive, I believe Americans would make the change.
You have solid points here tb, but we need to look... (show quote)

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Sep 3, 2017 10:36:43   #
Morgan
 
teabag09 wrote:
Point taken if you live in a city with good public t***sportation. Where I live a bike isn't even convenient. Everything is too far. We used to do with horse and mule and everyone b***hed about the droppings. Things will change with time and advancements but until then we will have to do with what we have. Mike




What ever we have or "could" have.

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Jun 9, 2019 18:14:14   #
Morgan
 
Morgan wrote:
What ever we have or "could" have.


some news on this

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Jun 9, 2019 18:16:05   #
emarine
 
Morgan wrote:
some news on this




This explains a lot, enjoy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qaf6baEu0_w

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Jun 9, 2019 18:32:18   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
emarine wrote:
This explains a lot, enjoy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qaf6baEu0_w


I believe the auto and highways are uniquely American. Independent and more freedom. Though I wouldn’t mind seeing privately owned fast rail. Especially from Tampa to Orlando.

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Jun 9, 2019 23:09:35   #
Morgan
 
JFlorio wrote:
I believe the auto and highways are uniquely American. Independent and more freedom. Though I wouldn’t mind seeing privately owned fast rail. Especially from Tampa to Orlando.


I would love it, and would probably travel more, we are so behind in this catagory for t***sportation, like the link shows the oil copanies have been controling us and holding us back for their own selfish profit. they sqeezed out and entire industry here in the US.

Hey and thanks for your comments on my other thread

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Jun 9, 2019 23:22:21   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Morgan wrote:
I would love it, and would probably travel more, we are so behind in this catagory for t***sportation, like the link shows the oil copanies have been controling us and holding us back for their own selfish profit. they sqeezed out and entire industry here in the US.

Hey and thanks for your comments on my other thread


I’m sure the oil companies didn’t want the competition but I think that reason is overblown. If there’s money in it the oil companies would have been the first to invest in it. I think America being such a vast country, square mileage wise and the individual spirit of the American people as a whole is one big reason rail didn’t catch on. We like our freedom but I’d love to take a luxury train cross country. Have a good evening.

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Jun 11, 2019 17:28:34   #
Morgan
 
JFlorio wrote:
I’m sure the oil companies didn’t want the competition but I think that reason is overblown. If there’s money in it the oil companies would have been the first to invest in it. I think America being such a vast country, square mileage wise and the individual spirit of the American people as a whole is one big reason rail didn’t catch on. We like our freedom but I’d love to take a luxury train cross country. Have a good evening.


I think like in so many other things, the big guy gets to snuff out the smaller competitors. one tie we took a plain to Texas, between layovers and exchanges it took us 13 hours to arrive at 1AM, left at 7am, we could have driven there by then. I'd love to sit back and travel by train, especially if they had a dining car

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Jul 6, 2020 13:08:30   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
Morgan wrote:
More and more cars and trucks, more and more expanding highways still with traffic jams, we are far behind other countries when it comes to rail systems. Between layover times, security lines, government bail outs, expense, and airport hassles, why do we not move towards more energy efficient train systems. Is it due to the control of the oil industries? Some thoughts...


http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/03/opinions/smart-high-speed-trains-america/index.html


It seems to work better in smaller countries. Airplanes seems to work better here. I can get from Baltimore to Myrtle Beach in an hour and a half. Of course the airport is usually a hassle.

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