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Feb 14, 2014 14:14:03   #
Retired669
 
jay-are wrote:
I don't think k*****g adults is ok. That is not a logical outcome from asserting that k*****g babies is not funny.

You put a bunch of laughing faces after advocating k*****g babies with a vaccuum. What kind of person laughs when advocating k*****g babies with a vaccuum?




Someone who respects a woman's right to choose which is none of your business or anyone else's business what she decides to do with her body. :thumbup:

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Feb 14, 2014 14:35:24   #
jay-are
 
Retired669 wrote:
Someone who respects a woman's right to choose which is none of your business or anyone else's business what she decides to do with her body. :thumbup:


I agree. The woman's mother has no right to choose to mutilate her body or suck out her brains. Neither do you or I or any doctor, or any government bureaucrat. She should be allowed to choose for herself whether or not she wants to be born and live.

You sir, do not respect a woman's right to choose, or a man's right to choose, for that matter. You usurp the right to deny a person the right to live.

America was founded as the land that guarantees people the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Who are you, or who are these women, who think you have the right to deny the right to life, in the name of the right to choose?

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Feb 14, 2014 16:25:15   #
Retired669
 
jay-are wrote:
I agree. The woman's mother has no right to choose to mutilate her body or suck out her brains. Neither do you or I or any doctor, or any government bureaucrat. She should be allowed to choose for herself whether or not she wants to be born and live.

You sir, do not respect a woman's right to choose, or a man's right to choose, for that matter. You usurp the right to deny a person the right to live.

America was founded as the land that guarantees people the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Who are you, or who are these women, who think you have the right to deny the right to life, in the name of the right to choose?
I agree. The woman's mother has no right to choos... (show quote)





Who do you think you are by telling another human being what they can or can't do with their own bodies? It's their choice to make not your or anyone else's!

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Feb 14, 2014 16:30:18   #
jay-are
 
Retired669 wrote:
Who do you think you are by telling another human being what they can or can't do with their own bodies? It's their choice to make not your or anyone else's!


You are the one mutilating and sucking out the brains of another human being. Are you suggesting that they chose that option?

I haven't heard of a baby yet communicating from the womb that they choose to have their skull crushed and their brains sucked out. If you are so adamant that another human being should have the choice to do wh**ever they want with their body, shouldn't you let the baby express his/her choice before you do things to his/her body?

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Feb 14, 2014 16:47:32   #
Retired669
 
jay-are wrote:
You are the one mutilating and sucking out the brains of another human being. Are you suggesting that they chose that option?

I haven't heard of a baby yet communicating from the womb that they choose to have their skull crushed and their brains sucked out. If you are so adamant that another human being should have the choice to do wh**ever they want with their body, shouldn't you let the baby express his/her choice before you do things to his/her body?



There are innocent men, women and kids around this world that have died from having the living s**t bombed out of them by this country and others...What about their choices or are you only concerned with the unborn?

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Feb 14, 2014 16:53:22   #
jay-are
 
Retired669 wrote:
There are innocent men, women and kids around this world that have died from having the living s**t bombed out of them by this country and others...What about their choices or are you only concerned with the unborn?


There are innocent men, women and kids around this world that have died from having the living s**t bombed out of them by this country. And there are innocent men, women and kids in this country that have died from having the living s**t bombed out of them and other unacceptable things done to them. All unjustified k*****g of innocent human beings is bad. The more innocent, the worse the crime. Who is more innocent than a baby?

You can't win the debate point by changing the subject. You are not going to get me to say that I approve of this country's actions during war. I don't. That is not relevant to this discussion.

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Feb 14, 2014 16:54:59   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Perhaps the individuals wishing to denigrate and insult each other on the topic of a******n should take their discussion to "Main"

"General Chit Chat" is clearly defined by the ADMIN as being for non-political subject matter.

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Feb 14, 2014 16:58:43   #
jay-are
 
AuntiE wrote:
Perhaps the individuals wishing to denigrate and insult each other on the topic of a******n should take their discussion to "Main"

"General Chit Chat" is clearly defined by the ADMIN as being for non-political subject matter.


Don't read it. Nobody is making you read any of it.

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Feb 14, 2014 17:00:25   #
Retired669
 
jay-are wrote:
There are innocent men, women and kids around this world that have died from having the living s**t bombed out of them by this country. And there are innocent men, women and kids in this country that have died from having the living s**t bombed out of them and other unacceptable things done to them. All unjustified k*****g of innocent human beings is bad. The more innocent, the worse the crime. Who is more innocent than a baby?

You can't win the debate point by changing the subject.



The point you continue to overlook is NO ONE INCLUDING YOU HAS ANY RIGHT TO TELL ANOTHER HUMAN BEING WHAT THEY CAN OR CAN NOT DO WITH THEIR OWN BODY regardless of the circumstances.

I learned that over 50 years ago and to be honest you should have learned it as well. Your religious beliefs do not over rule the rights of other human beings to do as they see fit to do to their own bodies.

I can't say it any more clear than I already have.

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Feb 14, 2014 17:15:09   #
jay-are
 
Retired669 wrote:
The point you continue to overlook is NO ONE INCLUDING YOU HAS ANY RIGHT TO TELL ANOTHER HUMAN BEING WHAT THEY CAN OR CAN NOT DO WITH THEIR OWN BODY regardless of the circumstances.

I learned that over 50 years ago and to be honest you should have learned it as well. Your religious beliefs do not over rule the rights of other human beings to do as they see fit to do to their own bodies.

I can't say it any more clear than I already have.


The point you continue to overlook is that no human being has the right to murder another human being.

Any mother will tell you that she was "eating for two." Everyone knows that the baby she is carrying is another human being. Admit it. You deny that the baby is a human being. I disagree. That baby is a human being with all the rights to choice that you and I agree every human being is endowed with by his/her creator.

YOu are the one advocating that certain human beings can be denied the right to choose what they want to do with their own bodies. You just conveniently deny that they are human beings and that justifies murder, and denying them the right to choose.

At least when a robber murders the clerk, we all recognize that the robber denied the clerk the right to choose whether he would puncture his body with bullets, and we call the robber a criminal. Somehow in your mind, when a murderer does the same thing to a baby, you don't see any crime. When you don't see any crime, that denies that human being his/her right to choose. The baby has no rights.

By your logic, I could k**l my boss because he is in the office where my body should be, so since I have a right to do wh**ever I want with my body, and I want my body to be in that office, there is nothing wrong with k*****g the boss because it is my choice to put my body in that office. My body wants his office, so his body can be disposed of.

That is the logic of a narcissistic personality disorder. Look it up.

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Feb 14, 2014 18:04:25   #
Duckie
 
Retired669 wrote:
Someone who respects a woman's right to choose which is none of your business or anyone else's business what she decides to do with her body. :thumbup:


You could not be more wrong! That child has both a mother and father, grandparents (most do anyway), a life. She or He is alive! The time to think about birth control is before pregnancy. If you argue that a woman has a right to take control, say no, or use medication to PREVENT a pregnancy, then I will agree. But, once a woman is pregnant, then she has but one choice and that is to have the baby and if she does not think she is capable of raising it with love then she has a right to give it up to a family that can provide and love it. K*****g a baby is murder and you and those who abort children are just fooling yourself if you think that it is alright. When it becomes common place to murder..... then how much better are we than the lowest of animals? Even animals do not k**l their own babies. Is it not preferable to teach sex education and how to prevent rather than approve and encourage murder?

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Feb 14, 2014 18:18:20   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Duckie wrote:
You could not be more wrong! That child has both a mother and father, grandparents (most do anyway), a life. She or He is alive! The time to think about birth control is before pregnancy. If you argue that a woman has a right to take control, say no, or use medication to PREVENT a pregnancy, then I will agree. But, once a woman is pregnant, then she has but one choice and that is to have the baby and if she does not think she is capable of raising it with love then she has a right to give it up to a family that can provide and love it. K*****g a baby is murder and you and those who abort children are just fooling yourself if you think that it is alright. When it becomes common place to murder..... then how much better are we than the lowest of animals? Even animals do not k**l their own babies. Is it not preferable to teach sex education and how to prevent rather than approve and encourage murder?
You could not be more wrong! That child has both ... (show quote)


Now...now, Duckie. Why on earth would you expect these individuals to be so responsible as to purchase preventive measures. Such would be called planning. Hmmm....Planned Parenthood seems an oxymoron does it not?

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Feb 14, 2014 18:31:29   #
jay-are
 
AuntiE wrote:
Now...now, Duckie. Why on earth would you expect these individuals to be so responsible as to purchase preventive measures. Such would be called planning. Hmmm....Planned Parenthood seems an oxymoron does it not?


Well, it makes sense to them because they lie to themselves and claim that they do not believe the baby is really a human being.

It is a human being and it takes a very strong evil influence to convince people that it is not. The Bible is true when it says that people prefer evil over good and lies over the t***h. That is what evil does in the world.

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Feb 14, 2014 19:53:08   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
archie bunker wrote:
It is a sentimental thing. As a girl, she used to go bird hunting with that shotgun. Her older brother always took her. He is no longer here.
You poor unfeeling souls just have no clue do you?


The idea is so sentimental...Love it. Makes me recall, one of the first things my child bride and I did was target shooting.. Let her use an old 16 gauge, damascus barrel and no butt pad.. First short, she went on her butt and the shotgun went north. But she hit the pop can.. She will always finish the story with that fact... Nice, you are very thoughtful dude....

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Feb 14, 2014 20:08:59   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
permafrost wrote:
The idea is so sentimental...Love it. Makes me recall, one of the first things my child bride and I did was target shooting.. Let her use an old 16 gauge, damascus barrel and no butt pad.. First short, she went on her butt and the shotgun went north. But she hit the pop can.. She will always finish the story with that fact... Nice, you are very thoughtful dude....


I am awaiting his telling us of his success with his choice. :D

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