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Feb 11, 2014 13:08:22   #
rodulfo-tardo
 
What can be expected from an active representative of the Muslim Brotherhood, whose conversations to his "brother" in Kenya help to make the destructive policy we have been subjected to? If every instance of terrorism against this country, since 2009 were adds up it will show how this 'resident alien' has aided our enemies and caused the K.I.A. numbers in Afghanistan to climb to over 80%, what would make it such a headline, while for the last three years, he's been arming Al'Qaeda making this Arab Revolt to become worldwide. McCain and others have supported the arming of our enemies, by calling them "rebels" to romanticize the appeal, well let me tell you there is nothing 'romantic' about rebels, their targets are always "civilians" the softest of targets, these tactics I have known first hand. At least the Egyptians had a referendum in their Constitution, and so Mursi was gone. At this time this 'resident t*****r' hopes to o*******w Al' Assad, reinstate Mursi, because to the F*****t S*********t Islamiists there is nothing more dangerous than a "Secular State".

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Feb 11, 2014 13:18:26   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
bobgssc wrote:
So, I'll be the first to admit that I'm biased (20 year retired United States Air Force), but to brush off a report like this from what most liberals consider a valid news source (in other words, they can't just say "Oh that's just Fox", I find myself quite concerned. I really don't want to get to the point in this country where we have to act like the people in other places and run anytime someone leaves a bag unattended. Actually, we should probably be this way already.
I'm afraid there isn't going to be much left to govern after the next 3 years.
So, I'll be the first to admit that I'm biased (20... (show quote)

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I'm biased too! And I think you are right about the 3 year thing - not much left to govern. Can one say "scorched earth". Perhaps not with fire, but with devastation and no reprieve.

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Feb 11, 2014 13:24:31   #
bobgssc
 
Tasine wrote:
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I'm biased too! And I think you are right about the 3 year thing - not much left to govern. Can one say "scorched earth". Perhaps not with fire, but with devastation and no reprieve.


55 years old and I don't think I've ever been so afraid for my country before... cold war included.

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Feb 11, 2014 13:34:21   #
beammeupscotty Loc: 31°07'50.8"N 87°27'00.8"W
 
bobgssc wrote:
55 years old and I don't think I've ever been so afraid for my country before... cold war included.


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Feb 11, 2014 13:50:11   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
bobgssc wrote:
55 years old and I don't think I've ever been so afraid for my country before... cold war included.

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Ditto for me - and I am 75 years old. I never thought I would live to see this happening on US soil, never.

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Feb 11, 2014 13:52:03   #
Snoopy
 
Tasine wrote:
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Ditto for me - and I am 75 years old. I never thought I would live to see this happening on US soil, never.


Tasine

I am 81 and still ready to fight any way I can.

Civil disobedience for a start.

Snoopy

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Feb 11, 2014 13:53:15   #
bobgssc
 
Tasine wrote:
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Ditto for me - and I am 75 years old. I never thought I would live to see this happening on US soil, never.


Remember when people listened to elders because they understood that experience went hand in hand with knowledge? Now, people of age are just considered stupid or out of touch. We seem to have worked very hard to forget what made this country great.

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Feb 11, 2014 14:29:27   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Snoopy wrote:
Tasine

I am 81 and still ready to fight any way I can.

Civil disobedience for a start.

Snoopy

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Good for you, Snoopy! Me, too! Daren't say what disobedience on the internet.
:D :D :D

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Feb 11, 2014 14:30:56   #
beammeupscotty Loc: 31°07'50.8"N 87°27'00.8"W
 
bobgssc wrote:
Remember when people listened to elders because they understood that experience went hand in hand with knowledge? Now, people of age are just considered stupid or out of touch. We seem to have worked very hard to forget what made this country great.





Liberal tactics, the dumbing down of America, teaching the youth that they are smarter than their elders. Al Gore told them just that.

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Feb 11, 2014 15:55:48   #
Hungry Freaks
 
OK a kid who 30+ years ago distributed leaflets for a group opposed to Ayatollah Khomeini, for a group "once deemed a terrorist group" by the US government, now 30+ years later, is being denied residency in a country where he has resided peacefully an lawfully for decades.

OK-Menachem Begin and Yitzak Shamir were once deemed terrorists with the British government actually having bounties on their heads. begin opened bragged about bombing the King David Hotel k*****g dozens. Shamir was known as a leader of the group that murdered 270 women, children and old men in the village of Dir Yassan.

Yet, decades after Begin's and Shamir's terrorist activities, we not only welcomed them to our country, but showered the governments they headed with billions in US aid.

The key phrase in that story is "was once considered."

And, of course the rabid right and the serial Obama h**ers use this as proof that Obama loves terrorists. So, who ordered the k*****g of Osama bin Laden. George W. bush, who once hosted bin Laden at the family ranch, said going after bin Laden "wasn't important."




The Dutchman wrote:
about this bastard son of who knows ties to the muslim terrorists?

Obama eases immigration rules for those who gave 'limited' support to terrorists
By Associated Press February 10, 2014 6:55 am

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration has eased the rules for would-be asylum-seekers, refugees and others who hope to come to the United States or stay here and who gave "limited" support to terrorists or terrorist groups.
The change is one of President Barack Obama's first actions on immigration since he pledged during his State of the Union address last month to use more executive directives.

The Department of Homeland Security and the State Department now say that people considered to have provided "limited material support" to terrorists or terrorist groups are no longer automatically barred from the United States.

A post-Sept. 11 provision in immigrant law, known as terrorism related inadmissibility grounds, had affected anyone considered to have given support. With little exception, the provision has been applied rigidly to those trying to enter the U.S. and those already here but wanting to change their immigration status.

For Morteza Assadi, a 49-year-old real estate agent in northern Virginia, the law has left him in a sort of immigration purgatory while his green card application has been on hold for more than a decade.

As a teenager in Tehran, Iran, in the early 1980s, Assadi distributed fliers for a mujahedeen group that opposed the government of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini and was at one time considered a terrorist organization by the U.S. government. Assadi said he told the U.S. government about his activities when he and his wife applied for asylum in the late 1990s. Those requests were later granted and his wife has since become a U.S. citizen. But Assadi's case has remained stalled.

"When we are teenagers, we have different mindsets," Assadi said. "I thought, I'm doing my country a favor."

Assadi said he only briefly associated with the group, which was removed from Washington's list of terrorist organizations in 2012, and that he was never an active member or contributor to its activities. Now he's hopeful that the U.S. government will look at his teenage activities as "limited."

His lawyer, Parastoo Zahedi, said she has filed case in federal court to force U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services to process Assadi's green card application, but now hopes the government will act on its own.

"In the past, the minute your name was associated with a (terrorist) organization you were being punished," Zahedi said. "Not every act is a terrorist act and you can't just lump everyone together."

The Homeland Security Department said in a statement that the rule change, which was announced last week and not made in concert with Congress, gives the government more discretion, but won't open the country to terrorists or their sympathizers. People seeking refugee status, asylum and visas, including those already in the United States, still will be checked to make sure they don't pose a threat to national security or public safety, the department said.

In the past, the provision has been criticized for allowing few exemptions beyond providing medical care or acting under duress. The change now allows officials to consider whether the support was not only limited but potentially part of "routine commercial t***sactions or routine social t***sactions."

"Refugee applicants are subject to more security checks than any other category of traveler to the United States," Homeland Security spokesman Peter Boogaard said. "Nothing in these exemptions changes the rigorous, multilayered security screening we do."

The change does not specifically address "freedom fighters" who may have fought against an established government, including members of rebel groups who have led revolts in Arab Spring uprisings.

In late 2011, Citizenship and Immigration Services said about 4,400 affected cases were on hold as the government reviewed possible exemptions to the rule. It's unclear how many of those cases are still pending.

Sen. Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said the rule change will help people he described as deserving refugees and asylum-seekers.

"The existing interpretation was so broad as to be unworkable," Leahy, D-Vt., said in a statement. He said the previous rule barred applicants for reasons "that no rational person would consider."

Republican lawmakers argued that the administration is relaxing rules designed by Congress to protect the country from terrorists.

Rep. Bob Goodlatte, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, called the change naive given today's global terrorist threats.

"President Obama should be protecting U.S. citizens rather than taking a chance on those who are aiding and abetting terrorist activity and putting Americans at greater risk," said Goodlatte, R-Va.
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Feb 11, 2014 16:14:56   #
bobgssc
 
beammeupscotty wrote:
Liberal tactics, the dumbing down of America, teaching the youth that they are smarter than their elders. Al Gore told them just that.


bmus, please don't get me started on Gore... Just typing that name raises my blood pressure... Sorry liberals, but that is an inconvenient t***h!

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Feb 11, 2014 16:25:16   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
vernon wrote:
that is misleading and a dam lie.


That's your response to the t***h? A little pedantic don't you think?

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Feb 11, 2014 16:36:20   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
bobgssc wrote:
Remember when people listened to elders because they understood that experience went hand in hand with knowledge? Now, people of age are just considered stupid or out of touch. We seem to have worked very hard to forget what made this country great.


How many Gov. leaders are "elders"? I've known a number of old folk who were the same as they, " I've got mine, you can go f*@k yourself. ". We can't blame the youngsters for the mess WE created, by being lazy and having a "let somebody else deal with it" attitude.

How many people HERE did anything THEN? Now all they want to do is whine and complain and blame. This Country was on it's way to hell BEFORE Obama. Trying to lay all the blame at his feet because he's Muslim, gay, c*******t, or any of the other i***tic claims, is stupid and un productive.

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Feb 11, 2014 16:36:44   #
beammeupscotty Loc: 31°07'50.8"N 87°27'00.8"W
 
bobgssc wrote:
bmus, please don't get me started on Gore... Just typing that name raises my blood pressure... Sorry liberals, but that is an inconvenient t***h!


Yeah, you're right, me too. Sorry i mentioned his sorry ass.
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Feb 11, 2014 16:43:11   #
vernon
 
Tasine wrote:
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What's the matter? Didn't receive your talking points today?


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