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Feb 10, 2014 23:12:44   #
The Dutchman
 
about this bastard son of who knows ties to the muslim terrorists?

Obama eases immigration rules for those who gave 'limited' support to terrorists
By Associated Press February 10, 2014 6:55 am

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration has eased the rules for would-be asylum-seekers, refugees and others who hope to come to the United States or stay here and who gave "limited" support to terrorists or terrorist groups.
The change is one of President Barack Obama's first actions on immigration since he pledged during his State of the Union address last month to use more executive directives.

The Department of Homeland Security and the State Department now say that people considered to have provided "limited material support" to terrorists or terrorist groups are no longer automatically barred from the United States.

A post-Sept. 11 provision in immigrant law, known as terrorism related inadmissibility grounds, had affected anyone considered to have given support. With little exception, the provision has been applied rigidly to those trying to enter the U.S. and those already here but wanting to change their immigration status.

For Morteza Assadi, a 49-year-old real estate agent in northern Virginia, the law has left him in a sort of immigration purgatory while his green card application has been on hold for more than a decade.

As a teenager in Tehran, Iran, in the early 1980s, Assadi distributed fliers for a mujahedeen group that opposed the government of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini and was at one time considered a terrorist organization by the U.S. government. Assadi said he told the U.S. government about his activities when he and his wife applied for asylum in the late 1990s. Those requests were later granted and his wife has since become a U.S. citizen. But Assadi's case has remained stalled.

"When we are teenagers, we have different mindsets," Assadi said. "I thought, I'm doing my country a favor."

Assadi said he only briefly associated with the group, which was removed from Washington's list of terrorist organizations in 2012, and that he was never an active member or contributor to its activities. Now he's hopeful that the U.S. government will look at his teenage activities as "limited."

His lawyer, Parastoo Zahedi, said she has filed case in federal court to force U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services to process Assadi's green card application, but now hopes the government will act on its own.

"In the past, the minute your name was associated with a (terrorist) organization you were being punished," Zahedi said. "Not every act is a terrorist act and you can't just lump everyone together."

The Homeland Security Department said in a statement that the rule change, which was announced last week and not made in concert with Congress, gives the government more discretion, but won't open the country to terrorists or their sympathizers. People seeking refugee status, asylum and visas, including those already in the United States, still will be checked to make sure they don't pose a threat to national security or public safety, the department said.

In the past, the provision has been criticized for allowing few exemptions beyond providing medical care or acting under duress. The change now allows officials to consider whether the support was not only limited but potentially part of "routine commercial t***sactions or routine social t***sactions."

"Refugee applicants are subject to more security checks than any other category of traveler to the United States," Homeland Security spokesman Peter Boogaard said. "Nothing in these exemptions changes the rigorous, multilayered security screening we do."

The change does not specifically address "freedom fighters" who may have fought against an established government, including members of rebel groups who have led revolts in Arab Spring uprisings.

In late 2011, Citizenship and Immigration Services said about 4,400 affected cases were on hold as the government reviewed possible exemptions to the rule. It's unclear how many of those cases are still pending.

Sen. Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said the rule change will help people he described as deserving refugees and asylum-seekers.

"The existing interpretation was so broad as to be unworkable," Leahy, D-Vt., said in a statement. He said the previous rule barred applicants for reasons "that no rational person would consider."

Republican lawmakers argued that the administration is relaxing rules designed by Congress to protect the country from terrorists.

Rep. Bob Goodlatte, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, called the change naive given today's global terrorist threats.

"President Obama should be protecting U.S. citizens rather than taking a chance on those who are aiding and abetting terrorist activity and putting Americans at greater risk," said Goodlatte, R-Va.

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Feb 11, 2014 00:07:47   #
BoJester
 
[quote=The Dutchman]

blah,blahblahblahblahblah and blah. etc.

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Feb 11, 2014 00:13:28   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
The Dutchman wrote:
about this bastard son of who knows ties to the muslim terrorists?

Obama eases immigration rules for those who gave 'limited' support to terrorists
By Associated Press February 10, 2014 6:55 am

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration has eased the rules for would-be asylum-seekers, refugees and others who hope to come to the United States or stay here and who gave "limited" support to terrorists or terrorist groups.
The change is one of President Barack Obama's first actions on immigration since he pledged during his State of the Union address last month to use more executive directives.

The Department of Homeland Security and the State Department now say that people considered to have provided "limited material support" to terrorists or terrorist groups are no longer automatically barred from the United States.

A post-Sept. 11 provision in immigrant law, known as terrorism related inadmissibility grounds, had affected anyone considered to have given support. With little exception, the provision has been applied rigidly to those trying to enter the U.S. and those already here but wanting to change their immigration status.

For Morteza Assadi, a 49-year-old real estate agent in northern Virginia, the law has left him in a sort of immigration purgatory while his green card application has been on hold for more than a decade.

As a teenager in Tehran, Iran, in the early 1980s, Assadi distributed fliers for a mujahedeen group that opposed the government of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini and was at one time considered a terrorist organization by the U.S. government. Assadi said he told the U.S. government about his activities when he and his wife applied for asylum in the late 1990s. Those requests were later granted and his wife has since become a U.S. citizen. But Assadi's case has remained stalled.

"When we are teenagers, we have different mindsets," Assadi said. "I thought, I'm doing my country a favor."

Assadi said he only briefly associated with the group, which was removed from Washington's list of terrorist organizations in 2012, and that he was never an active member or contributor to its activities. Now he's hopeful that the U.S. government will look at his teenage activities as "limited."

His lawyer, Parastoo Zahedi, said she has filed case in federal court to force U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services to process Assadi's green card application, but now hopes the government will act on its own.

"In the past, the minute your name was associated with a (terrorist) organization you were being punished," Zahedi said. "Not every act is a terrorist act and you can't just lump everyone together."

The Homeland Security Department said in a statement that the rule change, which was announced last week and not made in concert with Congress, gives the government more discretion, but won't open the country to terrorists or their sympathizers. People seeking refugee status, asylum and visas, including those already in the United States, still will be checked to make sure they don't pose a threat to national security or public safety, the department said.

In the past, the provision has been criticized for allowing few exemptions beyond providing medical care or acting under duress. The change now allows officials to consider whether the support was not only limited but potentially part of "routine commercial t***sactions or routine social t***sactions."

"Refugee applicants are subject to more security checks than any other category of traveler to the United States," Homeland Security spokesman Peter Boogaard said. "Nothing in these exemptions changes the rigorous, multilayered security screening we do."

The change does not specifically address "freedom fighters" who may have fought against an established government, including members of rebel groups who have led revolts in Arab Spring uprisings.

In late 2011, Citizenship and Immigration Services said about 4,400 affected cases were on hold as the government reviewed possible exemptions to the rule. It's unclear how many of those cases are still pending.

Sen. Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said the rule change will help people he described as deserving refugees and asylum-seekers.

"The existing interpretation was so broad as to be unworkable," Leahy, D-Vt., said in a statement. He said the previous rule barred applicants for reasons "that no rational person would consider."

Republican lawmakers argued that the administration is relaxing rules designed by Congress to protect the country from terrorists.

Rep. Bob Goodlatte, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, called the change naive given today's global terrorist threats.

"President Obama should be protecting U.S. citizens rather than taking a chance on those who are aiding and abetting terrorist activity and putting Americans at greater risk," said Goodlatte, R-Va.
about this bastard son of who knows ties to the mu... (show quote)


Yeah, he should be cutting the billions of defense contract money going to terrorists. Wait, that's Republicans doing that, sorry.

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Feb 11, 2014 05:24:41   #
stan3186
 
[quote=BoJester]
The Dutchman wrote:


blah,blahblahblahblahblah and blah. etc.


So this is you intelligent rebuttal or conversation concerning the president relaxing rules for terrorist entering the country. How insightful and brilliant of you. You should probably run for Congress or President. You are probably more qualified than Obama.

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Feb 11, 2014 07:20:34   #
Snoopy
 
stan3186 wrote:
So this is you intelligent rebuttal or conversation concerning the president relaxing rules for terrorist entering the country. How insightful and brilliant of you. You should probably run for Congress or President. You are probably more qualified than Obama.


Dear Stan3186

BoAxxHole always answers questions with this kind of response. Also notice it is very difficult to misspell anything!

Snoopy

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Feb 11, 2014 07:51:24   #
1OldGeezer
 
stan3186 wrote:
So this is you intelligent rebuttal or conversation concerning the president relaxing rules for terrorist entering the country. How insightful and brilliant of you. You should probably run for Congress or President. You are probably more qualified than Obama.


Stan,
Bo will never answer any post with an intelligent or appropriate, meaningful response, he supports Obama no matter what damage to the country the Obama action causes.

Bo's job is to confuse, obfuscate, and post liberal opinion pieces written by Soro's funded groups. Bo is an intelligent person (though misguided) who knows exactly what he is doing.

If you expect any more than that from Bo you will always be disappointed. (In case you didn't already know.)
1oldgeezer

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Feb 11, 2014 07:53:48   #
NanaSue57 Loc: Georgia
 
[quote=BoJester]
The Dutchman wrote:


blah,blahblahblahblahblah and blah. etc.



Ok, so you don't take this seriously. Well, when your loved one gets blown up by one of these terrorists one day, and you cry out about it, what are you going to hear? Blah,blahblablahblahblahblah and blah.

Is this what you said when people cried out about 9/11? Blah, blahblahblahblah?

Do you have a brain?

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Feb 11, 2014 08:46:31   #
Liberty Tree
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Yeah, he should be cutting the billions of defense contract money going to terrorists. Wait, that's Republicans doing that, sorry.


If what you say is true, how do they do it without the Democrat Senate and Democrat President? You are just showing your ignorance of how budgets are passed.

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Feb 11, 2014 08:48:25   #
Liberty Tree
 
stan3186 wrote:
So this is you intelligent rebuttal or conversation concerning the president relaxing rules for terrorist entering the country. How insightful and brilliant of you. You should probably run for Congress or President. You are probably more qualified than Obama.


The sad thing is that this is the most intelligent response he has.

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Feb 11, 2014 09:27:32   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
The sad thing is that this is the most intelligent response he has.


Maybe a third response will be the charm. The first two were weak, very weak.

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Feb 11, 2014 10:40:59   #
MarvinSussman
 
The Dutchman wrote:
about this bastard son of who knows ties to the muslim terrorists?

Obama eases immigration rules for those who gave 'limited' support to terrorists
By Associated Press February 10, 2014 6:55 am

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration has eased the rules for would-be asylum-seekers, refugees and others who hope to come to the United States or stay here and who gave "limited" support to terrorists or terrorist groups.
The change is one of President Barack Obama's first actions on immigration since he pledged during his State of the Union address last month to use more executive directives.

The Department of Homeland Security and the State Department now say that people considered to have provided "limited material support" to terrorists or terrorist groups are no longer automatically barred from the United States.

A post-Sept. 11 provision in immigrant law, known as terrorism related inadmissibility grounds, had affected anyone considered to have given support. With little exception, the provision has been applied rigidly to those trying to enter the U.S. and those already here but wanting to change their immigration status.

For Morteza Assadi, a 49-year-old real estate agent in northern Virginia, the law has left him in a sort of immigration purgatory while his green card application has been on hold for more than a decade.

As a teenager in Tehran, Iran, in the early 1980s, Assadi distributed fliers for a mujahedeen group that opposed the government of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini and was at one time considered a terrorist organization by the U.S. government. Assadi said he told the U.S. government about his activities when he and his wife applied for asylum in the late 1990s. Those requests were later granted and his wife has since become a U.S. citizen. But Assadi's case has remained stalled.

"When we are teenagers, we have different mindsets," Assadi said. "I thought, I'm doing my country a favor."

Assadi said he only briefly associated with the group, which was removed from Washington's list of terrorist organizations in 2012, and that he was never an active member or contributor to its activities. Now he's hopeful that the U.S. government will look at his teenage activities as "limited."

His lawyer, Parastoo Zahedi, said she has filed case in federal court to force U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services to process Assadi's green card application, but now hopes the government will act on its own.

"In the past, the minute your name was associated with a (terrorist) organization you were being punished," Zahedi said. "Not every act is a terrorist act and you can't just lump everyone together."

The Homeland Security Department said in a statement that the rule change, which was announced last week and not made in concert with Congress, gives the government more discretion, but won't open the country to terrorists or their sympathizers. People seeking refugee status, asylum and visas, including those already in the United States, still will be checked to make sure they don't pose a threat to national security or public safety, the department said.

In the past, the provision has been criticized for allowing few exemptions beyond providing medical care or acting under duress. The change now allows officials to consider whether the support was not only limited but potentially part of "routine commercial t***sactions or routine social t***sactions."

"Refugee applicants are subject to more security checks than any other category of traveler to the United States," Homeland Security spokesman Peter Boogaard said. "Nothing in these exemptions changes the rigorous, multilayered security screening we do."

The change does not specifically address "freedom fighters" who may have fought against an established government, including members of rebel groups who have led revolts in Arab Spring uprisings.

In late 2011, Citizenship and Immigration Services said about 4,400 affected cases were on hold as the government reviewed possible exemptions to the rule. It's unclear how many of those cases are still pending.

Sen. Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said the rule change will help people he described as deserving refugees and asylum-seekers.

"The existing interpretation was so broad as to be unworkable," Leahy, D-Vt., said in a statement. He said the previous rule barred applicants for reasons "that no rational person would consider."

Republican lawmakers argued that the administration is relaxing rules designed by Congress to protect the country from terrorists.

Rep. Bob Goodlatte, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, called the change naive given today's global terrorist threats.

"President Obama should be protecting U.S. citizens rather than taking a chance on those who are aiding and abetting terrorist activity and putting Americans at greater risk," said Goodlatte, R-Va.
about this bastard son of who knows ties to the mu... (show quote)


Another case where the headline looks awful but, on examining the details, it's a case of reasoning through a complicated history where people change sides with changing circumstances.

It's so much easier seeing the world as black and white. Sometimes you need brains to see gray.

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Feb 11, 2014 11:29:47   #
vernon
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Yeah, he should be cutting the billions of defense contract money going to terrorists. Wait, that's Republicans doing that, sorry.



that is misleading and a dam lie.

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Feb 11, 2014 11:29:57   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
The Dutchman wrote:
about this bastard son of who knows ties to the muslim terrorists?

Obama eases immigration rules for those who gave 'limited' support to terrorists
By Associated Press February 10, 2014 6:55 am

WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration has eased the rules for would-be asylum-seekers, refugees and others who hope to come to the United States or stay here and who gave "limited" support to terrorists or terrorist groups.
The change is one of President Barack Obama's first actions on immigration since he pledged during his State of the Union address last month to use more executive directives.

The Department of Homeland Security and the State Department now say that people considered to have provided "limited material support" to terrorists or terrorist groups are no longer automatically barred from the United States.

A post-Sept. 11 provision in immigrant law, known as terrorism related inadmissibility grounds, had affected anyone considered to have given support. With little exception, the provision has been applied rigidly to those trying to enter the U.S. and those already here but wanting to change their immigration status.

For Morteza Assadi, a 49-year-old real estate agent in northern Virginia, the law has left him in a sort of immigration purgatory while his green card application has been on hold for more than a decade.

As a teenager in Tehran, Iran, in the early 1980s, Assadi distributed fliers for a mujahedeen group that opposed the government of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini and was at one time considered a terrorist organization by the U.S. government. Assadi said he told the U.S. government about his activities when he and his wife applied for asylum in the late 1990s. Those requests were later granted and his wife has since become a U.S. citizen. But Assadi's case has remained stalled.

"When we are teenagers, we have different mindsets," Assadi said. "I thought, I'm doing my country a favor."

Assadi said he only briefly associated with the group, which was removed from Washington's list of terrorist organizations in 2012, and that he was never an active member or contributor to its activities. Now he's hopeful that the U.S. government will look at his teenage activities as "limited."

His lawyer, Parastoo Zahedi, said she has filed case in federal court to force U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services to process Assadi's green card application, but now hopes the government will act on its own.

"In the past, the minute your name was associated with a (terrorist) organization you were being punished," Zahedi said. "Not every act is a terrorist act and you can't just lump everyone together."

The Homeland Security Department said in a statement that the rule change, which was announced last week and not made in concert with Congress, gives the government more discretion, but won't open the country to terrorists or their sympathizers. People seeking refugee status, asylum and visas, including those already in the United States, still will be checked to make sure they don't pose a threat to national security or public safety, the department said.

In the past, the provision has been criticized for allowing few exemptions beyond providing medical care or acting under duress. The change now allows officials to consider whether the support was not only limited but potentially part of "routine commercial t***sactions or routine social t***sactions."

"Refugee applicants are subject to more security checks than any other category of traveler to the United States," Homeland Security spokesman Peter Boogaard said. "Nothing in these exemptions changes the rigorous, multilayered security screening we do."

The change does not specifically address "freedom fighters" who may have fought against an established government, including members of rebel groups who have led revolts in Arab Spring uprisings.

In late 2011, Citizenship and Immigration Services said about 4,400 affected cases were on hold as the government reviewed possible exemptions to the rule. It's unclear how many of those cases are still pending.

Sen. Patrick Leahy, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said the rule change will help people he described as deserving refugees and asylum-seekers.

"The existing interpretation was so broad as to be unworkable," Leahy, D-Vt., said in a statement. He said the previous rule barred applicants for reasons "that no rational person would consider."

Republican lawmakers argued that the administration is relaxing rules designed by Congress to protect the country from terrorists.

Rep. Bob Goodlatte, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, called the change naive given today's global terrorist threats.

"President Obama should be protecting U.S. citizens rather than taking a chance on those who are aiding and abetting terrorist activity and putting Americans at greater risk," said Goodlatte, R-Va.
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Well, Dutch, we all know what this is all about, don't we? I just this morning listened to a new interview with the fellow who specializes in narcissistic behavior, and he has Obama pegged exactly as he did before he was elected: he is a narcissist that could be seen through before he was elected and that anyone SHOULD be able to see through now. He was aghast that Americans could elect such a person to the highest power in the world because of how narcissistic personalities act and react in times of crisis. And he described all that we know about Obama, and he sees him just as we do except that he says he doesn't believe he is deliberately trying to destroy the country, but that he cannot help himself. He says he also thinks he isn't particularly intelligent. He says that his type narcissism THRIVES in controversy and confusion, that if there isn't controversy, his type will demand it - he can't control that demand. I realize I am telling this poorly, but we are NOT wrong to doubt this man in any respect. The question was raised about the sorts of people who support such a person ....... it was left as an interesting question, unanswered.

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Feb 11, 2014 11:31:03   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
[quote=BoJester]
The Dutchman wrote:


blah,blahblahblahblahblah and blah. etc.

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What's the matter? Didn't receive your talking points today?

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Feb 11, 2014 12:35:26   #
bobgssc
 
[quote=BoJester]
The Dutchman wrote:


blah,blahblahblahblahblah and blah. etc.


So, I'll be the first to admit that I'm biased (20 year retired United States Air Force), but to brush off a report like this from what most liberals consider a valid news source (in other words, they can't just say "Oh that's just Fox", I find myself quite concerned. I really don't want to get to the point in this country where we have to act like the people in other places and run anytime someone leaves a bag unattended. Actually, we should probably be this way already.
I'm afraid there isn't going to be much left to govern after the next 3 years.

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