jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Gee, I didn't realize extremist was a euphemism for terrorist. You mean I've been calling your a terrorist? I think you're twisting a little, Randall, as usual. Look up extremist in the dictionary. Then look up euphemism. Then look up terrorist. True, the jihadi terrorists are extremists in their world. We have our own extremists and, while some would indeed like to do terrorism (LOCK AND LOAD, Randall...the extreme of the extreme), for the most part they look to taking over the Republican Party by purging it of "RINOs" and making the GOP into a "front organization." Extreme indeed in our American and Anglo-Saxon and Western Euro world.

Randall_S Loc: Big Apple

What can I tell you. You don't read the news.

http://guardianlv.com/2014/01/sochi-olympics-new-video-terrorist-threat-from-islamic-chec...

http://pmnewsnigeria.com/2014/01/18/day-of-reckoning-for-extremist-islamic-judge/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/dec/4/britain-eyes-new-powers-thwart-islamic-extremists/

http://www.newsweek.com/moderate-muslim-leaders-beat-extremists-75011

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/terror-surprise-sochi-olympics-purported-suicide-bombers-threat/story?id=21589469

In all, extremist is a euphemism for terrorist. Moreover...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/10/23/Military-Training-Doc-Anti-Christian-SPLC-a-Trusted-Source-to-Define-Extremism

http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/10/u-s-military-taught-treat-christians-as-extremists-pote...

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2013/may/03/randy-forbes/forbes-says-army-training-program-listed-evangelic/

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/04/08/us_army_training_instructor_classifies_catholics_evangelicals_as_extremists_like_al_qaeda_hamas

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/10/24/exclusive-army-halts-training-program-that-labeled-christians-as-extremists/

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/8-examples-of-the-u-s-military-being-taught-to-treat-chr...

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

I'm uncertain about this, but the other day I got an email from Americans for Democracy that asked readers to tell Rep. Ron Kind from Milwaukee area (I think, not sure) that he was wrong to think about sponsoring affirmation of the open trade agreement for the Pacific region. It was the equivalent in my mind of the RWEs pressuring Republicans to follow a straight extreme and absolute line. Two emails of a less obvious extreme would not have raised such alarm, but with the previous email showed a pattern of pressure to follow a straight somewhat extreme line. Perhaps I am over-reacting about Gov.Dean's organization, but I no longer trust him or his AFD organization. The ironic part is that I thought Rep. Kind perhaps over-liberal in the first place. ha. Previously I had regarded AFD as more or less the liberal equivalent of Karl Rove, and perhaps I am biased as a "moderate" or "conservative" Dem against more liberal positions? Anyway, I'll offer AFD as a possible somewhat extreme of the left to be watched like the TP. ha.

Glaucon

Jonathan,

If you both read the articles Randy wants you to read, you will both be very old and have eye strain. I think we should take a sample of a couple of these articles and have Randy take a quiz to see if he has read any of these except the titles.

Randall_S Loc: Big Apple

you need a life.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

extremist = terrorist...plain and simple just more of your phony baloney argumentation, Randall.

You seem think listing 20 sources with the words proves your weird definition when in fact they have zero application to your oddity. It only proves you have lists ready to throw in at a minute's notice.

Wowzers, where do you get such lists at such short notice? I'm really curious about that. I couldn't locate two sources to reference in two hours much less the ten minutes of your response...I couldn't even put the post together in that time frame. ha.

Randall_S Loc: Big Apple

Speaking at Transformational Trends, a conference co-hosted by Foreign Policy and the Policy Planning Staff of the U.S. State Department, [Deputy National Security Advisor] Blinken said that the radicalization of the conflict may create a shared interest among world powers to bring the war to an end. The growing prominence of radical groups has "begun to concentrate the minds of critical actors outside of Syria" and may strip the Bashar al-Assad regime of the key international backing that has so far helped to keep him in power.

"The Russians have a profound interest in avoiding the emergence of an extremist Syria, a haven for extremist groups," Blinken said. "Many of Syria's neighbors have the same incentive, and of course we have a strong reason to want to avoid that future."

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/12/11/obama_adviser_extremism_possible_key_to_ending_syrian_civil_war

There's the Deputy National Security Advisor for Barack Obama's administration using the word "extremist" instead of "terrorist" in the pages of Foreign Policy.

Case. Closed.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Except that you, Randall, then extend the terrorist/Islamist extremist equation to American extremist/terrorist meaning, which is a misrepresentation as I already pointed out. Your case is disproved as false comparison. You seem to think stating something or listing any old source proves something. It does not. They have to connect.

By the way, after checking further on in postings, I do see your point about mis-use of the term extremist to label conservatives in general. When I heard of Gov. Cuomo's statement when it was reported, I thought it weird and wondered what in the world. "What? You gotta be kidding!" was my reaction. It's true I consider the ideas posted by RWEs on OPP unAmerican but would never think they should be exiled to some other state...would be unfair to any other state. ha. Perhaps in Cuomo's book the list of positions he listed are extreme (and may be considered so two generations from now by everyone) but if he was familiar with OPP postings and such ideas as your "cleaning" the GOP, for example, and making it a "front organization" for agenda of really far out re-set of American government and political structure, he would have a quite different list of non-New Yorkers. ha. You, of course, would still be on the different list, but don't worry, he can't make you shut up or force you to move to Russia. He, like the Prez, is often only words.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

Thank you, Randall, for citing this interesting source reference stating what I had assumed was American overall strategy to deal with Syria but which I had no reference or proof of. The key to resolving the Syrian crisis and, for that matter, the overaall Islamist terrorist problem, is consensus among those affected--Western Europe, Russia, and us Americans. Working out specifics to enable stable governments that can contain extremists in societies in transition from feudalism is going to be awkward and will take time and various accommodations that aren't perfect but can work with all parties more or less on the same page.

jonhatfield Loc: Green Bay, WI

That's not what Cuomo said...he distinguished between conservatives who were moderate and those who were extreme. As usual, Randall, you misinterpret, misstate, misrepresent, twist the facts. Thanks, however, for providing the exact words so I know what was said...otherwise I would have believed your interpretation because that is what the "biased" mainstream press gave me the impression what was said. ha. Ironic, isn't it?

Randall_S Loc: Big Apple

I hope you are being paid by Cuomo.

Glaucon

It is understanding that gives us an ability to have peace. When we understand the other fellow's viewpoint, and he understands ours, then we can sit down and work out our differences.
Harry S. Truman

Does this exchange improve understanding? Is improving our understanding the purpose of this site?

Glaucon

It is understanding that gives us an ability to have peace. When we understand the other fellow's viewpoint, and he understands ours, then we can sit down and work out our differences.
Harry S. Truman

Does this exchange improve understanding? Is improving our understanding the purpose of this site?

Glaucon

Does anyone really want to understand people who disagree with them?

Not-a-RINO Loc: Michigan

There is NO question in my mind Cuomo would set up roadblocks on New York's highways if he ever heard I was going to be moving in!

Thanks to liberal twits like Cuomo, maybe New York could be renamed "East California"?

I have also wondered why most of the original 13 Colonies now are so diametrically opposed to the original intent of the documents they drafted which set up our Republic based on individual liberty, limited government and the rule of law? While the establishment of the United States was a great leap forward in regards to citizens and their government, the liberals have been back-peddling ever since towards tyranny and government control of lives.

Time to re-fill my coffee. Have a great day all! 8-)