Loki wrote:
The majority of people, apparently you also, no offense, don't realize that there are at least 25,000 US citizens on these lists. It is not "a" list, there are at least three. You can be put on this list basically on someone's unsupported word, or by mistake, and you have very little in the way of a remedy. There have been several people put on the list by mistake who have had to go to court at their own expense to clear their names. Included on this list are toddlers under the age of five, at least 2 US Marshals, a number of active duty service people who had the misfortune to have a name similar to someone else who was on the list, probably wrongfully. A nun was put on this list, as were Senator Ted Kennedy, a Georgia Congressman, and a Cub Scout.
The list compilers place more than 98% of the "recommendations" on the list. Most are unproven accusations, or mistaken identity. The standards for making this list would be thrown out of any court. How would you like to be one of the 25,000 plus innocent US citizens placed on a terror watch list, with no proof, no due process, no chance to face your accuser, and have to engage the service of an attorney at your own expense to clear your name?
Do you support a law that would be blatantly unconstitutional, because it violates the Second, Fourth, Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments? Do you think that inalienable rights are actually privileges to be extended or revoked at the whim of the Government du jour? Lastly, do you ACTUALLY think there are 25,000 US citizens who deserve to be on a terrorist watch list?
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Point taken, if this is what the lists consists of, maybe the list should be taken more seriously by the processors on who goes on it and have a more stringent profiling procedure. With that being said If a person would be red flagged as a danger to society to the point of not being allowed to fly a plane with others, I certainly would think that would not entitle him/her to buy a gun.
I don't believe one should have to go through expense and to clear himself, and the government should put in effort to expedite an approval.
As far as 25000, innocent people, that is only about.00008 of the population, that sounds like they're doing their job for home security.