Morgan

Clearly with polls taken the majority of the people on both sides of the fence are for this, so why what's the problem with passing the bill?

Hemiman Loc: Communist California

Just because a person is on the watch list doesn't mean they are guilty of committing a crime and the guy that controls the list wouldn't hesitate to put someone on just because he feel like it.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

1. It gives the admin unilateral power to revoke the Bill of Rights. Can those on the list be denied any other constitutionally guaranteed rights? Speech? Lawyer? Privacy?

2. If someone is too dangerous to fly or own a gun, they should not be allowed in day cares, sports arena, shopping malls, public parks, hospitals and elementary schools without a police escort.

3. Remember the IRS targeted Conservatives already.

buffalo Loc: Texas

Passing all the more stringent background checks and putting everyone on a watchlist would not nor could not stop a determined criminal from getting a gun.

For ANY gun restricting laws to work, no matter how unConstitutional, criminals would need to obey them....

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

But it sure limits the law abiding citizen and removes their right to own..Give an inch, take a mile..With this administration that is the norm..When we start "giving up" what little rights we do have, we loose all in short order..

Dictatorship is not for this country..Follow the Constitution, the very foundation of our Nation...

I do support back ground checks and not letting the "truly established mentally challenged" not own a gun..However, that process has to be beyond a shadow of doubt, just as the law says..In other words, if they are on a no fly list, considered dangerous, and mentally challenged then they most likely belong in a mental institution..Charge them and be done with it by law determination!!!

Loki Loc: Georgia

The majority of people, apparently you also, no offense, don't realize that there are at least 25,000 US citizens on these lists. It is not "a" list, there are at least three. You can be put on this list basically on someone's unsupported word, or by mistake, and you have very little in the way of a remedy. There have been several people put on the list by mistake who have had to go to court at their own expense to clear their names. Included on this list are toddlers under the age of five, at least 2 US Marshals, a number of active duty service people who had the misfortune to have a name similar to someone else who was on the list, probably wrongfully. A nun was put on this list, as were Senator Ted Kennedy, a Georgia Congressman, and a Cub Scout.
The list compilers place more than 98% of the "recommendations" on the list. Most are unproven accusations, or mistaken identity. The standards for making this list would be thrown out of any court. How would you like to be one of the 25,000 plus innocent US citizens placed on a terror watch list, with no proof, no due process, no chance to face your accuser, and have to engage the service of an attorney at your own expense to clear your name?
Do you support a law that would be blatantly unconstitutional, because it violates the Second, Fourth, Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments? Do you think that inalienable rights are actually privileges to be extended or revoked at the whim of the Government du jour? Lastly, do you ACTUALLY think there are 25,000 US citizens who deserve to be on a terrorist watch list?

Loki Loc: Georgia

With all due respect, Linda, the standards for being put on the no fly list are about as vague and unconstitutional as the standards to make one of the terrorist watch lists. People are put on the list with no proof of association or activities involving terrorists. Granted, the standards for the no fly list are slightly more stringent than the watch lists, but many people are on this list by mistake. The only way you can find out if you are on it is to be denied an airline ticket. There is no due process. The standards by which these lists are compiled violate the Second, Fourth, Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. Do you know how many TSA employees, and DHS employees are on these lists? Two US Marshals were accidentally placed on the no-fly list because their names were similar to someone else, and no one checked. Most of the people on these lists are placed there without proof. Many have had to go to court at their own expense to clear their names. The bureaucratic dickheads who put them there by mistake are NEVER held accountable.

Oh, by the way, Good morning!

Morgan

It isn't about putting everyone on a watch list, this is about putting suspicious people who are on a watch to wait until they are cleared.

America Only Loc: From the right hand of God

It was said a big mistake, but a few US Senators have been on a no fly list. It took YEARS of a legal battle to have them removed from that list. What is wrong with your brain as you do not have any recall of the news stories about THAT issue?

Personally I want EVERYONE armed. Period. If so then when one moron pulls a gun and starts some shit, the mass public will be his judge, jury and execute that moron and it is a done deal and back to day to day for everyone. Crime would stop really quick.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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It's simple. Most of us opposing this and all other gun control bills do so for the simple reason such laws are unconstitutional and we think the Constitution is a good document as it is the backbone of our government. RIGHTS are inalienable, NOT TO BE jerked around by ANYONE, and PARTICULARLY, by those who want to see the Constitution thrown away or burned into cinders. Most horrid laws become such horrid laws because government has worked incrementally to get to that horrid state......write a simple law that harms no one, that is easily passed, then GROW on that law, making the next one a bit more controlling, then use that one to grow another worse law about control, until eventually, you have banned all weapons and the populace is helpless against a tyrannical government. So simple that I'll wager that an unbrainwashed 4 year old child could grasp the purposes of incremental law making and the downfall of nations.

IN AN HONEST COUNTRY ALL GUN LAWS ARE TYRANNICAL. IN AMERICA THEY ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL. IN ALL TYRANNICAL COUNTRIES, GUNS ARE OUTLAWED.

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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Me too. I am comfortable being around armed people...............much more so than being around leftists and other rats.

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

I say we go back to the days of the wild west.

Open carry and public hangings.

We hung horse thieves.

So today we should hang car thieves.

We should hang murderers, rapists, and pedophiles.

Aggravated assault and armed robbery should be punished with deportation to Africa, no matter what the race of the convicted felon is.

And when someone who has been deported, sneaks back in and gets caught, they should be hanged by the neck until dead.

ITS ALREADY OPEN CARRY IN TEXAS.

SO DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS..............PUNKS

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Good Morning Loki and you are right..I have said the very same in other posts just didn't add it here..Heck, people aren't even told they are the no fly list until they go to make reservations..They should be required to send notice to those involved and let the process begin as to whether or not the reason they are on list has foundation...To me if they are on that list then they should be confronted and if the reason is valid then charge them with terrorism/treason//aggression against our Nation etc or for whatever reason they claim..All this oussyfooting around the issue needs to be brought front and center and dealt with not just written down on some piece of paper thinking that cures all..IT cures nothing..

Then again, given the FBIs batting average on clearing those they think are a threat doubtful anything would change other than having to remove everyone on that list!!

Tasine Loc: Southwest US

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I'm with you!!! The days of the old west were VERY SUPERIOR to today's America!!! EVERYONE KNEW WHERE HE STOOD, and people were allowed to look after themselves and their families. Today's America SUCKS, thanks to an overbearing GOVERNment supported by braindead Neanderthals.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

The simple answer is; nothing - except Democrats want it. Now, had Obama and/or the Democrats called for open carry Nation wide, the GOP would have come out swinging against it - because they feel they have to.

To be fair, the Democrats act the same stupid way. If a Republican called for clean water, the Democrats would introduce a bill repealing the clean water act.

I swear, every time I see the Congress in action, I have to make sure I haven't gotten onto the kindergarten channel by mistake.