A number of wingnuts, including fox, have got their panties all bunched up because Obama had a cup in his hand when he "answered" a salute from the marines.
Since all presidents are civilian when they serve, there is NO obligation to salute when in civilian dress. In fact, the practice of saluting as a civilian came from the pretend soldier, reagan, who must have been dreaming about his glory days as a "B" movie actor.

But it seems all of the angry panties in a wad crowd forget about bush saluting with his dog.

http://www.examiner.com/article/barney-former-pres-george-w-bush-s-dog-to-be-buried-at-the-bush-texas-ranch

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Judge Jeanine? Sounds like she is a graduate of the same charm school that produced Judge Judy, Suzie Orman, and Nancy Grace.

Her predictions? I suspect she consults the same "Magic 8 Ball" that she got for her high school graduation.

The mantra of Fox and right wing hate radio? Be afraid.............ooooooooo......be very afraid---and jack up our ratings, ad revenue, and book sales.....so we can all have the luxury lifestyle of Rush Limbaugh-------the masterful fat "chicken little" who takes in millions from the little chicky "Chicken Littles" who gobble up his latest edition of, "the sky is falling".

Ever wonder why voter ID is necessary?
THIS IS AN EYE OPENER!!!!!
Wonder why NC now requires voter ID?

In 59 voting districts in the Philadelphia region, Obama received 100% of the votes with not even a single vote recorded for Romney. (A mathematical and statistical impossibility).

In 21 districts in Wood County Ohio, Obama received 100% of the votes where GOP inspectors were illegally removed from their polling locations - and not one single vote was recorded for Romney. (Another statistical impossibility).

In Wood County Ohio, 106,258 voted in a county with only 98,213 eligible voters.

In St. Lucie County, FL, there were 175,574 registered eligible voters but 247,713 votes were cast.

The National SEAL Museum , a polling location in St. Lucie County, FL had a 158%voter turnout.

Palm Beach County, FL had a 141% voter turnout.

In one Ohio County , Obama won by 108% of the total number of eligible voters.

NOTE: Obama won in every state that did not require a Photo ID and lost in every state that did require a Photo ID in order to vote. Imagine that!

ARE WE THE DUMBEST NATION ON THE PLANET OR WHAT???

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If these anti-immigrant protests go like all the other "take back America" rallies, you can expect a turnout like the "million trucker" convoy (that drew 30 trucks) or "Operation American Spring", in May, which drew 300 people to a rally billed to have 10,000,000 protestors.

If these right wingers spent as much time reaching out to young voters and minorities, as they do bitching and moaning and being all around sore losers, they actually might get somewhere.

That, however, requires intelligence.

Perhaps we OPP posters haven't been on the same page vis-a-vis standing armies, state militias and the 2nd amendment.

I'll introduce the thread by explaining that a very real fear, in fact the major motivation for the Constitutional Convention, is that the Confederacy of States would devolve into the same kind of factious warring states so typical of European history. They were already beginning to show signs of that tendency.

The Federalist 28 was Hamilton's argument for ratification in the face of the healthy doubts and concerns, at that time, of a standing army.

Here are the major points of his argument:

"It may safely by received as an axiom in our political system that the State governments will, in all possible contingencies, afford complete security against invasions of the public liberty by the national authority."

"They can readily communicate with each other in the different States, and unite their common forces for the protection of their common liberty."

"When will the time arrive that the federal government can raise and maintain an army capable of erecting a despotism over the great body of the people of an immense empire, who are in a situation through the medium of their governments to take measures for their own defense, with all the celerity, regularity, and system of independent nations."

Publius (the author of the Federalist Papers) was more concerned with the disintegration and anarchy resulting from a weak central government, as history had taught them. Central government had to exercise some control over State forces to prevent State's warring against each other or against the "head". One firewall preventing the despotism contingent on a standing army was that Congress could only appropriate funds for 2 years; another was the assumption that the member States would more likely encroach on the "head" than the opposite. This, I think, has been proven not to be true, thanks in part to the 16th amendment--the federal income tax.

So the Constitution provides for the Central Government to raise and support land and naval armies, but at the same time, left grounds for States to keep a Militia, (now known as the National Guard, a French term, in honor of LaFayette); the States could appoint the Officers, and undertake their training.

Thus my interpretation of the 2nd Amendment: A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State--I wonder if the Constitution would have been ratified without that stipulation.

I have more to share, but we can all mull this info over.

The entire area held by IS is approx. 100 miles by 500 miles.
Eighteen "old fashioned"nukes dropped at 50 or so mile intervals would end the entire IS argument. No boots on the ground, no suffering of "collateral damage". Less cost, total vaporization of all in the drop zone. I know it sounds a bit inhumane, but consider the slow death of crucifiction, the full 3-5 seconds of pain due to beheading compared to instant vaporization. We would be doing them a favor. Controversial? Absolutely, but consider Japan has not invaded, or even thought about invading for 70+ years.

I am not familiar with the liberal doctrine. Could you send me a copy of it? Are there conservative and extremist doctrines also?
I am totally against socialized living anywhere. It hasn’t ever worked and it is against human nature.
I supported Obama twice because there was no reasonable choice. I have never been a staunch supporter of anyone except Jesus and me, in that order.
I don’t know what you mean by liberal propaganda. I posted the definition of liberal from the dictionary and several people tried to tell me that the dictionary is liberal. I guess propaganda is somewhat in the eye of the beholder.
It is possible that one of us is unbalanced and/or biased politically.
I am sorry you see me as aggressive rather than assertive. I think that may be my style and I kinda like it that way.
I think you got your snapshot of me when you failed to remove the lens cover.
Your thumb nail diagnosis of my mental condition is amusing. It is good when you can unbunch you panties before offering a diagnosis.

I can not speak to how you view yourself, but I will share with you that there is a difference between being assertive and aggressive. You view yourself as strong, a good trait. In many to most of your posts I view you as aggressive with possible anger issues. This may not be an accurate snapshot of you, but that is how you have portrayed yourself time after time. Therefore, rather than seeing you as strong, either in opinion or belief, I simply see an insecure individual that is aggressive, often angry, and most of the time condescending to those who disagree and often alienate those that could find themselves supportive of any of your assertions.
You say you have a college degree and I don’t have any evidence that is not so. However, I do have to cut you a lot of slack, because you think like a hod carrier and claim to be a college grad. What college was it and when? Just asking.

I am out of personal attacks and I assume you are also, so I am up to any topic you are willing and able to pursue.