rachelrc wrote:
I believe Trump will win in a landslide. The Hill should be in jail. Most people know this. As for the Congress and Senate. They haven't been working for us for years now.They have been working for the corporations. They aren't so much against Trump as they are against being able to keep accepting paydays from special interests.It is past the time the card tables are spilled!! Convention of States Term limits and a balanced budget. This must be forced on them. They will not do it on their own.
Wow, you are living in the bubble. The Rasmussen polls are the only ones showing Trump ahead. Even Fox's poll shows Hillary ahead. Of course, anything can happen, but being as confident as you are of a Trump "landslide" says to me that you aren't paying attention to the way people plan to vote.
Old Man wrote:
Sure, some have queasiness about Mr. Trump. And some of them have a "R" after their name but are really Demoncrats! I have come to the conclusion that I don't know everything about Mr Trump, but I do about Hillary Clinton --- AND DONALD TRUMP IS NOT HILLARY CLINTON!!!! That's all I need to know!!!!!!
You are correct that Donald Trump is not Hillary Clinton. Here's how Politifact rates Trump's and Clinton's campaign statements:
Trump's statements by ruling
True 4 (2%)(4)
Mostly True 14 (8%)(14)
Half True 25 (14%)(25)
Mostly False 30 (17%)(30)
False 71 (40%)(71)
Pants on Fire 34 (19%)(34)
Clinton's statements by ruling
True 52 (23%)(52)
Mostly True 62 (28%)(62)
Half True 47 (21%)(47)
Mostly False 33 (15%)(33)
False 25 (11%)(25)
Pants on Fire 3 (1%)(3)
I think the conclusion that Hillary made false statements 27% of the time is pretty bad, but it is not even close to the 76% for the Donald. So now you know one more thing about him.
tugboat wrote:
Where do you get those numbers?
I don't see that ATC333 has replied to you, so I thought I would. His number is pretty high, but here's what a conservative economic website (The Tax Foundation) says: "Our analysis finds that the plan would reduce federal revenues by $11.98 trillion over the next decade. However, it also would improve incentives to work and invest, which could increase gross domestic product (GDP) by 11 percent over the long term. This increase in GDP would translate into 6.5 percent higher wages and 5.3 million new full-time equivalent jobs. After accounting for increased incomes due to these factors, the plan would only reduce tax revenues by $10.14 trillion." So in other words, if nothing is done to reduce spending, the national debt will increase 10.14 trillion over ten years.
I think they are putting the most positive spin on Trump's plan that they can, and I think the truth lies somewhere between ATC333's 30 trillion and their 10 trillion being added to our national debt. Either way, his plan will NOT reduce our national debt. It WILL put more money in the pocket of the 1%.
okie don wrote:
There's a another passage about turning our 'plows into swords'
Actually, it's the other way around: "And He shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more."—Isaiah 2:3–4
buffalo wrote:
We have just witnessed the end of the European Union.
While Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to remain in the EU, England voted for Independence. The English decided to write their own laws and govern themselves.
At the same time as this vote, our media outlets reported that in May alone, the United States had run up a trade deficit in goods of $60 billion. This translates to an annual deficit of $720 billion in goods or nearly 4 percent of our GDP wiped out by purchases of foreign-made, rather than U.S.-made goods.
Donald Trump, commenting in western Pennsylvania, said: "We got here because we switched from a policy of Americanism focusing on what's good for America"s middle class to a policy of globalism, focusing on how to make money for large corporations who can move their wealth and workers to foreign countries, all to the detriment of the American worker and the American economy."
What might a Trump policy of Americanism over globalism look like? A 10 to 20 percent tariff on manufactured goods to wipe out trade deficits, with hundreds of billions in revenue that can be used to lessen or eliminate corporate taxes in America.
Trump also remarked that "this wave of globalization has totally wiped out the middle class. It doesn"t have to be this way. We can turn it around and turn it around fast."
He has been painting Hillary Clinton as the champion of this kind of globalization which has pushed manufacturing jobs overseas. "We have a leadership class that worships globalism over Americanism."
Trump promised to restore those millions of factory jobs by backing away from decades of U.S. trade policy.
Every American business would benefit, and every global company would have the incentive not only to move production to the U.S., but also have its headquarters here.
An "America First" immigration policy would secure our border, cut legal immigrations to strengthen U.S. labor markets, strictly enforce our laws against those breaking into our country and get tough with businesses that make a practice of hiring people here illegally.
When looking at the Brexit vote in an American sense, Trump stated that, "they want to take their borders back. They want to take their monetary system back. They want to take a lot of things back. They want to be able to have a country again. So, I think you're going to have this happen more and more. I really believe that, and I think that it's happening here in the United States."
Looking toward November, Trump sees this as his biggest weapon.
"Come November, the American people will have the chance to re-declare their independence. Americans will have a chance to vote for trade, immigration and foreign policies that put our citizens first. They will have the chance to reject today's rule by the global elite, and to embrace real change that delivers a government of, by, and for the people."
We are seeing an anti-establishment, nationalist, populist wave surging across Europe and the United States and Donald Trump could ride this wave to victory.
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Trump didn't even know what Brexit was the first time a reporter asked him about it. He was in Scotland and congratulated the Scots on voting to leave the EU when they voted overwhelmingly to stay in (and they will probably have another referendum soon to leave the United Kingdom). Trump says the British wanted to "take their monetary system back" when they never adopted the euro. The European Union will survive, and I suspect that the U. K. (which will probably be smaller than it is now) will be trying hard to get back in before too many years go by.
By the way, most of the loss of manufacturing jobs in this country has come through improved productivity and automation, not through corporations leaving the U. S. I live in mining country, and even mining is now highly automated. Our big taconite plants (which "manufacture" iron ore) can produced as much iron with 25% of the workforce they required fifty years ago.
bylm1 wrote:
Maybe He has another plan. He must have, because the current one couldn't possibly be to His liking. I am praying every day that something happens to convince everyone that His plan includes Trump, not Hillary. I keep going back to a Bible passage in II Chronicles 16:9, that says, "The eyes of the Lord move to & fro throughout the Earth so that He may search out and completely support those whose heart is completely His." I realize that Donald Trump's name doesn't come immediately to mind, but we don't really know what is in his heart, do we? Trumps, that is.
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Yes, God couldn't possibly like a plan that involves healing the sick, feeding the hungry, taking in the stranger, or comforting the afflicted.
Oh, wait: "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." (Matthew 25:41-46)
iFrank wrote:
Don't get me wrong, most are good people but some aren't.
And that applies to all Americans, and for that matter, all humans on the face of the earth, right?
Armageddun wrote:
Faith is not totally intangible, the biblical definition of faith: Faith is the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for. The EVIDENCE of things not seen.
And science is the evidence of things seen. We have increased the power and precision of our vision with microscopes to study the extremely small and nearby and telescopes to study the very large and very distant. We have developed instruments to allow us to "see" the full range of the electromagnetic spectrum.
The recent evidence of gravity waves emitted by the collision of two black holes amazes me, as does the ingenuity at creating a sensor to detect them. When scientists don't understand something, they say so. I don't think anyone knows why our universe is expanding at an accelerating rate. To say it is God's work is not a scientific explanation. I fully expect that some day, perhaps not in my lifetime, astrophysicists will be able to tie the force responsible for that expansion into the four forces we know about: electromagnetism, gravity, the strong nuclear force, and the weak nuclear force.
Armageddun wrote:
As I see it,, those who are not only seeking to ban but slowly and surely are succeeding to ban any teaching, are those who believe in the "Theory" of evolution. I have no problem if both possibilities are allowed to be taught. There is no attempt by any sincere person to ban any truth or truths to be taught.
Banning any serious thought is a disservice to those who seek to be able to make choices that could determine the course of their lives. Truth be known, it could more dangerous for a person to teach something they don't believe in. It seems there may be a catch 22 on both sides.
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Tell that to the Texas State Board of Education.
Armageddun wrote:
Those who truly believe that God was the designer and creator of this universe do not disagree with science. Science is the search and discovery of Gods' creation. The riff has not been with science, but scientist. It seems by this article some of the best scientist are beginning to give credit where credit is due. The truth of the matter is even those who believe in intelligent design still and will never have all the answers concerning the designer.
So the people who try to ban books that teach the history of the universe and of life on this planet are not among those who "truly believe that God was the designer and creator of this universe"?
Meister wrote:
Oil and water. Faith does not need proofs to support it, nor do the findings of science assault it. Think of Romans1:19-22. God is plain in nature, a candid glimpse. All science can do is for us to marvel at and experience awe in his guiding hand. There is no fight, no conflict, between science and religion...unless we are closed-minded moralists or blind fundamentalists.
Well, I don't think that is all that science can do. But one of the true "miracles" of the universe is that it is just complicated enough that it isn't easy to understand the fundamental principles on which it operates, but it is not too complicated for us to gradually unravel its mysteries.
If a conclusion is based on solid evidence and good logic, it does not require any faith to accept it, just reasonable intelligence. Here's ore of my favorite quotes from Bill Maher: "I don't BELIEVE that water boils at 212 degrees, that's just how hot it is when it happens. It's not ideology, it's soup." And I might add that all that should be needed to convince any doubters is a pot of water, a stove, and a thermometer.
crazylibertarian wrote:
The schism never really existed anyway. Scientific investigation was considered the search for God's plan for the universe and consequently us. The Jesuits were entrusted with much of that part of the Church's functions.
The Galileo incident, that has been used by secularists and atheists to discredit the Church & hence religion in general, was not handled well by the Church and has played into opponents' hands. What has been ignored is that the Jesuits had more accurate measurements that pointed to a terracentric universe while Galileo's pointed to solacentrism. As time has shown, both were wrong and our planet, solar system & galaxy, the Milky Way, are hurtling together toward some other place. Along the way we are likely to pass through another galaxy.
It is important to realize that the Church, along with the Jesuits, monks and other of its groups, have had a hand in much scientific discoverery. Among the most important is the work of Grigor Mendel who laid the foundation for inheritance. And no matter what else, everyone should realize that as he hoists to enjoy a glass of champagne or other sparkling wine, Grand Marnier or other liqueur and many beers & ales, that his imbibing is a result of work of innumerable and unheralded monks.
Even Richard Dawkins can't deny that. And maybe all of you readers of this who are atheists and anti-theists should cease and desist in such joie de vivre.
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Unfortunately, I think the schism did exist and still exists. Galileo was right, within his frame of reference, which was the solar system. The Jesuits were not. Future advances in astronomy have shown our planet is in orbit around an insignificant star that is embedded in one of the spiral arms of a typical galaxy in a rapidly expanding universe.
We see the schism every time a religious group tries to ban a science text that says the earth is more than 6,000 years old or that life as we know it has evolved over hundreds of millions of years or that dinosaurs did not coexist with humans.
I have no problem with intelligent design as long as it doesn't interfere with science's attempt to expand our understanding of natural phenomena and natural forces.
Don't you think she meant that they were born British, since the places they were born were colonies of Britain at the time?
robmull wrote:
The ACA has been the brain child of secular liberal progressives for over a hundred years, Tasine, and every damn secular progressive commie puke who came along throughout history, from doctors to politicians to agenda-driven Marxists had a role in the final product; that ONLY "demonrats" jammed-down America's "unwashed-masses" throats. Not even the Republican law-makers in Congress, liberal progressive Labor Union management or BIG "demonrat" contributors and/or donors were forced to either get the plan or be fined not to. And I believe that the "mental" part was specific to disarming America. ANY medication for psychological [or liberally deemed psychological] disorders, no matter how minute, would automatically revoke ALL 2nd Amendment rights. Sure, the FEMA Camps are mentioned [not by name] in the "Weather Underground Manifesto," written by our favorite unrepentant "red-diaper" domestic terrorist, {PIG} killer X 3, American Flag stomping [cover of Newsweek], co-founder of The Weather Underground, bomber of police stations, a Mayor's house with his family inside, various armor car hold-ups, and bombing the Pentagon; comrade, associate, business partner and co-professor of "BHB's," who calls for the capture and incarceration of 25 million patriotic Americans to be "re-trained," [Marxist], and those who can't be "re-trained," to be simply eliminated. Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUMP!!!
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Yeah, undoubtedly Trump will make things better, because we know he's not impulsive or power hungry. Not one of those shoot-from-the-hip types. I can't wait.