"Seeking more information is great but just where are you going with this type of information."
With the advancement of the fear in Washington there is coming a time where they will have to go. Why do you think they spy on every person on this planet? It was no coincidence that Read came up with "domestic terrorist" since that is how we are described in the NDAA bill.
Every politician in Washington is corrupt or they would not be in the position they are in and sit back and watch the destruction of this country.
Our economy by any economic equation used is not sustainable. What do you think is going to happen when the first to be thrown overboard are the government dependent masses?
I highly recommend that you take a look at this keeping in mind that anyone who would not follow orders under a Marshal Law decree would be considered a "domestic terrorists and could be killed according to the NDAA.
http://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf

I am serious. Really. I came here because I really don't understand and I want to.

So please explain in complete sentences, without sound bites and demonization and name-calling why it is a virtue worthy of carrying guns to support. I read about this fellow. I don't know him or anything about him. But I read he doesn't pay rent for twenty years and now the landlord comes to appropriate his property in lieu of that rent.

I am trying to understand. Once I was a landlord for a short time by default and this couple was behind a couple of months. I remember that by law in the state I was in that I could have taken the guys motorcycle and I would have loved to have it but I was not going to do that to him. He was a good guy who got in trouble and in a few months got out of it and I wasn't going to do that to him.

But this guy does this (is it not called fraud) for twenty years and when the landlord shows up a lot of people with guns show up to take his side.

Someone please explain.

Thanks

Jim

By Adnan Al-Daini

April 18, 2014 "ICH" - "DV" - - A study by professor Linda J. Blimes of Harvard University concludes that the cost to the US of the Iraq and Afghan wars, taken together, will be between $4 and $6 trillion. This includes long-term medical care and disability compensation for service members, veterans and families, military replenishment and social and economic costs. The cost so far is $2 trillion.
In order to get our head round the colossal figure of $6 trillion, this is equivalent to $75,000 for every household in the US. Deaths of Iraqis and Afghans taken together are estimated from 600,000 to a million, coalition troop deaths around 8,000, over 7,000 of whom are Americans. The suffering and the sheer misery of widows, orphans and families behind these statistics are unimaginable.

Our propensity to dehumanize the ‘other’ makes it all too easy for the demagogue, the charlatan and the power hungry to exploit. We are too readily manipulated and outraged into diverting our resources into wars that cause death, injury and destruction. The suffering to millions of fellow human beings is kept from us by mainstream media too ready to play its role. In any case, the dehumanization of our ‘enemies’ dulls our compassion to the point of not seeing their pain and suffering as real.

Leaders and those who would profit from these wars would package their language in distortions and omissions to hide the truth. George Orwell summed it up: “Political language… is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.”

Let us for a moment put aside the human cost of these wars and concentrate on the economic cost. This obscene spending on death and destruction is done by a country, the US, where 15% of its citizens, 46 million, live below the poverty threshold of $23,492 and 1.5 million of its children become homeless every year.

Worldwide, 3 billion people live on less than $2.50 a day, 360 million of whom live on less than $1 a day. Grinding poverty, hunger and lack of clean water and effective sanitation blight their lives and their future. 22,000 children die every day due to poverty.

Families are trapped in a cycle of misery and deprivation that cascades through generations with no escape route. Yet in this world of need and suffering, the world military spending stood at over $1.7 trillion in 2012.

The vast majority of us individually can see that there is something seriously wrong with the way our priorities are perceived. It is beyond comprehension that with so much poverty and need worldwide, that so much wealth is spent on wars and weapons of death and destruction. However, this rationality and our sense of fairness could so easily be overcome when called upon to dehumanize our perceived ‘enemies’.

As a species we have tremendous talents. Our scientific achievements are incredible; our advances in medicine and technology are stunning. Our social development however is still almost at Stone Age level.

Yep. Those ignorant, right wing bastards back in the 1700s got just what they deserved, taking up arms against the government like that. How dare they! After all, according to Brian, the ONLY reason they revolted was so rich Virginia planters could keep their slaves, conveniently forgetting the fact that every single American flagged slave ship was owned by northern interests, slaves were held legally in W VA, KY, MD, and NJ until 1865, that in IN, IL, Oregon Territory, and parts of MA, blacks were forbidden by law to move there, and that 9 of the 27 slave owners at the Constitutional Convention hailed from north of the Mason-Dixon Line. He also holds the position that the 2nd Amendment, (although it was the only one of the more than 180 originally proposed that was passed UNANIMOUSLY, of the 10 that became the Bill of Rights ), was only passed for the benefit of the 6 VA delegates who were slave owners, so they could, to paraphrase Brian's words, "control their property." Terrible, that the other 49 delegates, 28 of whom did not own slaves, were so craven that they went along with this, isn't it? His somewhat less than sweeping worldview also overlooks the fact that the Northern European whites he so despises were just about the only people in the world who were making any sort of effort to end slavery, the poor, oppressed, "people of color" he so vociferously defends being, at the time, quite comfortable with the practice of slavery. Outside of the Northern Europe and North America he so despises, slavery was practiced quite enthusiastically by the "people of color who then, as now, make up the majority of the world's population.
Brian, good little serf-in-training that he is, ignores the comments of the Founders who made it plain that the 2nd Amendment was for defense against not only foreign usurpers, but domestic ones. He has re-written history to fit his own subservient, parochial viewpoint.
If we are a country of laws, Patriotism lies in adherence to those laws, which are simply clarifications of Rights that were considered inherent to the Founders. These laws are defined by the Constitution, NOT by whatever governmental interpretation is popular at the time. According to Brian, the people who wrote the Declaration of Independence, fought the Revolutionary War, and wrote our Constitution were traitors. The oath I took upon beginning my military service stated I was to defend the CONSTITUTION of the US against all comers, both foreign and domestic. It said nothing about being a knee bending lickspittle to Plutocrats.

Just as the Congress has taught us, the best way to deal with a problem is - to not deal with it. Let someone else do it, but don't inconvenience us while you're about it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/19/us/politics/sheriffs-limit-detention-of-immigrants.html?emc=edit_th_20140419&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=68247748

Should Congress pass a law requiring ALL law enforcement to determine citizenship of their detainees, every advocacy group in the world would be up in arms. We whine and complain about all the illegal aliens ruining the country, but don't want to be involved in dealing with the issue.

So, congratulations to Oregon, for not letting the Fed tell them what to do, you know, feed illegals for a day or two waiting on ICE. Boo to Oregon, for not being willing to help with a solution. I mean, their illegal inmates had lived somewhere and probably worked somewhere, also illegally, which is a crime that they should investigate, but it's not THEIR problem, it's the Feds.

While calling on the Federal Government to do something about all the illegal aliens running around and not being willing to cooperate in doing so, means that doodley squat will get done. Cutting off one's county nose to spite one's national face, is rather stupid. A county will hold someone until a bond/fine is paid, but once that's done, THEN you have rights. I was once held for 21 days in county jail, because I didn't have bail money, then the judge dismissed the case. Did I get compensated for my illegal incarceration? Of course not, I didn't even get an apology. It was just too bad that I wasn't an illegal alien, it seems that they have more rights than citizens do.

By all means, let's continue to debate the illegal alien question and do nothing, that's what our Congress has taught us to do. Perhaps ICE should ask HHS to put a hold on these people, for not buying their insurance.

I guess if you never take your head out of your ass you will never know what he has done. Or even where he was born for that matter. His birth certificate from Honolulu does not have the state seal on it. He also has two or three kthes thy have come up with. I guess you voted for him so you will never believe the truth. One thing for sure is a guy that spent one turn in office and did nothing should have never got to the presidency. There again it just shows what type of people voted for him. A bunch of sheep. If one goes right they all do if one goes left they all do. There are times you should think for your self before you are lead over a Clift. Good luck to you in your life someone may take a wrong turn then you are gone. That is why I don't follow the flock. Try voting for someone not in office at all next time.