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Apr 19, 2014 00:35:21   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
The decision to delay the Keystone pipeline is delayed at least till after this November. Is it political or is it being careful? There are Farmers and Ranchers in Nebraska that are opposed to haveing a pipeline carrying the most corrosive type of oil on their lands and near their water supply. Who will come to the aid of those Men of the Soil If a Canadian company has the go ahead against the objections and concerns of American Farmers and Ranchers?

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Apr 19, 2014 00:43:05   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
It's all political, they've studied this thing to death.



fom wrote:
The decision to delay the Keystone pipeline is delayed at least till after this November. Is it political or is it being careful? There are Farmers and Ranchers in Nebraska that are opposed to haveing a pipeline carrying the most corrosive type of oil on their lands and near their water supply. Who will come to the aid of those Men of the Soil If a Canadian company has the go ahead against the objections and concerns of American Farmers and Ranchers?

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Apr 19, 2014 00:51:35   #
grace scott
 
bmac32 wrote:
It's all political, they've studied this thing to death.


Would you want something like this across you land? I wouldn't, and I wouldn't want it across my neighbor's land because it could contaminate my land.

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Apr 19, 2014 00:54:31   #
Brian Devon
 
bmac32 wrote:
It's all political, they've studied this thing to death.





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Hopefully!

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Apr 19, 2014 01:03:02   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
I would be afraid with good reason.
grace scott wrote:
Would you want something like this across you land? I wouldn't, and I wouldn't want it across my neighbor's land because it could contaminate my land.

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Apr 19, 2014 01:05:36   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Thanks for the input Taz. Do you think the delay is for the benefit of incumbents facing reelection?
bmac32 wrote:
It's all political, they've studied this thing to death.

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Apr 19, 2014 02:41:44   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
fom wrote:
Thanks for the input Taz. Do you think the delay is for the benefit of incumbents facing reelection?


Yes; however, it may not benefit them.

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Apr 19, 2014 02:43:19   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
fom wrote:
The decision to delay the Keystone pipeline is delayed at least till after this November. Is it political or is it being careful? There are Farmers and Ranchers in Nebraska that are opposed to haveing a pipeline carrying the most corrosive type of oil on their lands and near their water supply. Who will come to the aid of those Men of the Soil If a Canadian company has the go ahead against the objections and concerns of American Farmers and Ranchers?


Is it really "American Farmers and Ranchers" or is it Warren Buffitt, who makes quite bit from rail transit of oil?

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Apr 19, 2014 03:00:40   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
fom wrote:
The decision to delay the Keystone pipeline is delayed at least till after this November. Is it political or is it being careful? There are Farmers and Ranchers in Nebraska that are opposed to haveing a pipeline carrying the most corrosive type of oil on their lands and near their water supply. Who will come to the aid of those Men of the Soil If a Canadian company has the go ahead against the objections and concerns of American Farmers and Ranchers?


Quote:
"The beginning is the most important part of the work." Plato


It is Obama's ideology that brought this project to a screeching halt years ago, and will continue to prevent approval.

Obama hates fossil fuel, and loves ineffective and prohibitively expensive Solyndra type projects; they save the living Mother Earth he worships, and put billions in taxpayer's taxes into his political contributer's coffers...

Approving this project because 91,000,000 Americans, those he considers his subjects, are out of work, and it would immediately provide over 20,000 jobs, or because it could eventually help lower gasoline prices for a populace struggling to survive, would never happen.

Every economic move he's made since taking office has been geared toward decreasing jobs, not increasing them.

His administration wants less energy utilized, not more, again to mollify the earth, not it's inhabitants...

The comfort and/or well being of the country's citizens is not even on the radar.

Quote:
USA TODAY

By David Jackson

April 18, 2014 5:02 p.m. EDT

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2014/04/18/obama-keystone-xl-pipeline-congress-canada/7874199/

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration on Friday extended the review period on the Keystone XL pipeline, perhaps pushing back a final decision on the disputed project until after the Nov. 4 congressional elections.

The State Department announced that officials need more time to review some 2.5 million public comments, and to assess the impact of a pending lawsuit in Nebraska that could change the route of the pipeline.

Republicans (and some Democrats) who support the pipeline denounced the delay — placing the blame on President Obama — while environmental groups hailed it as a sign that the project will not move forward.

In its statement, the department, citing an "unprecedented" number of public comments on Keystone, did not provide a specific date for the end of the review.

"The permit process will conclude once factors that have a significant impact on determining the national interest of the proposed project have been evaluated and appropriately reflected in the decision documents," the statement said, not providing a specific deadline. "The Department will give the agencies sufficient time to submit their views."

In criticizing the delay, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said: "Here's the single greatest shovel-ready project in America — one that could create thousands of jobs right away — but the President simply isn't interested."

He added: "Apparently radical activists carry more weight than Americans desperate to get back on the job."

While the State Department is reviewing the proposal, Obama has said he will make the final decision on the pipeline based on the national interest.

Environmental advocates oppose the Keystone pipeline, saying it would cause ecological damage along its route from the tar sands of Canada to the Gulf Coast.

Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., said the State Department did the right thing in pushing back the review, "given the unprecedented number of comments from the public."

Rachel Wolf, a spokesperson for a group called the All Risk, No Reward Coalition, said that "every day without Keystone XL is a day that we keep high-carbon tar sands in the ground."

The latest postponement "confirms, yet again, that this project is not permit-able," she said. "This export pipeline fails the climate test, fails the jobs test, and doesn't even have a legal route."

Democratic lawmakers who support the proposed oil pipeline also criticized the latest delay.

Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., who faces a tough re-election bid in November, said "Today's decision by the Administration amounts to nothing short of an indefinite delay of the Keystone Pipeline."

In November 2011, the administration announced that it was reconsidering the pipeline route, which would delay the final decision beyond the 2012 elections.

The State Department is reviewing the Keystone project because it involves another country, Canada, and the final decision could have diplomatic ramifications.

The lawsuit in Nebraska could not only change the pipeline route, but affect the timing of the final decision.

A state judge in Nebraska overturned a state law that would permit the pipeline's path, a decision that has been appealed to the Nebraska Supreme Court. It may not rule for months, and that decision could also be appealed, pushing the matter well past the Nov. 4 election date.

In the meantime, Republicans have vowed to make Keystone a major issue in many elections, though some environmentalists have as well.

Tom Steyer, a billionaire environmentalist who has vowed to spend as much as $100 million on behalf of candidates who back climate change legislation, said the Keystone pipeline will "significantly increase carbon pollution (via) some of the world's dirtiest oil."

Steyer said he and his organization, NextGen Climate, "will continue to stand up for politicians and leaders who have the courage to stand up to special interests, like Big Oil, who are in this fight for their own bottom line."

Sen. Heidi Heitkamp, D-N.D., one of 11 Senate Democrats who signed a letter to Obama seeking a specific time frame for a Keystone decision, expressed frustration with the latest delay.

"It's absolutely ridiculous that this well-over-five-year-long process is continuing for an undetermined amount of time," she said.
USA TODAY br br By David Jackson br br April 18,... (show quote)

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Apr 19, 2014 06:28:38   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
fom wrote:
The decision to delay the Keystone pipeline is delayed at least till after this November. Is it political or is it being careful? There are Farmers and Ranchers in Nebraska that are opposed to haveing a pipeline carrying the most corrosive type of oil on their lands and near their water supply. Who will come to the aid of those Men of the Soil If a Canadian company has the go ahead against the objections and concerns of American Farmers and Ranchers?


There's still money to be made on this issue. Delaying the decision will give more time for political contributors to pony up, especially in light of the recent supreme court ruling. The dems. need more money.

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Apr 19, 2014 06:43:09   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
lpnmajor wrote:
There's still money to be made on this issue. Delaying the decision will give more time for political contributors to pony up, especially in light of the recent supreme court ruling. The dems. need more money.


You are correct. Of course, the RINOs also have their hands out.

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Apr 19, 2014 06:58:08   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Loki wrote:
You are correct. Of course, the RINOs also have their hands out.


They all do. They're like kids at a Mardi Gras parade waiting for the candy to be thrown.

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Apr 19, 2014 07:01:06   #
Kevyn
 
Keystone, a great way for the Canadians to sell oil to the Chinease.

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Apr 19, 2014 07:57:26   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Thanks for your answer. Do you think the Farmers and ranchers who do not want the pipeline should be forced to accept it
AuntiE wrote:
Yes; however, it may not benefit them.

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Apr 19, 2014 08:42:29   #
Retired669
 
Kevyn wrote:
Keystone, a great way for the Canadians to sell oil to the Chinease.




Have you research why the people in Canada rejected this pipeline being built across their country and why many in this country where they want to build don't want it either?

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