Why is it found illegal and by whom? You know the answer. Huck

If you really believe an extensive objective audit was conducted on 4.7 million votes, there are more Brooklyn Bridges for sale. That of course is not the question at all. The integrity of our voting system is too vital to leave to chance. Voter I.D. is one of the best ways of preventing one or one-thousand illegal votes. Huck

It was a great response, right or wrong until your last sentence and then you just had to spoil it! Huck

Whoa! This is really intelligent discourse. This is exactly what drove me away from Political Plaza for a few months; some forever and maybe me. Huck

And this is all that's left for the Left. Huck

Then why don't you just set them straight, because there are millions born here to illegal aliens that have been granted American citizenship.The debate will continue regardless of how you want to interpret the 14th Amendment until it is either repealed, are revisited by the Supreme Court to clarify once and for all who is an American citizen - For now, if you're born here you are an American citizen. Period! Huck

I don't think you can call this Settled Law considering the many debates over Juridiction. Many consider that to mean territorial, more so than sovereignty. If you right or wrong makes little difference until this is settled either by an Ammendment or a Supreme Court ruling. Huck

Also on this date in 1866 all persons born in the United States were given citizenship - major mistake! Until then citizenship was given only those that were born to American citizens regardless of where they were born. Huck

Most Soviet citizens wanted to keep communism also after they had been forced to accept the system after a century, but that doesn't make it right or best, it's a system that you can get used to and we know what they say about Change! Huck

Keep it up. The only legacy Obama should have is to be remember as another Benedict Arnold - an American traitor! Huck

It couldn't have been said better. Huck

Absolutely, It has been proven to be one of the best defense tools available at the least expense and it works. Huck

Pafret: All forms of government where leadership is placed in the hands of the few regardless of how they were appointed can become an Oligarchy when the few become unjust according to Aristotle. I can see a brain containing deeply implanted socialist seeds in every sentence you right. Karl Marx would be proud of you. However, we know that the antiestablishment hatred within your writing when given vent, never works no matter how many times it’s tried. That’s why socialism is referred to as insanity. It’s not Democrat/Liberals or Republican/Conservatives that makes the deference; it’s an adherence to our Constitution and laws that makes the difference. Huck

WHY?
Why do people with supposedly sound minds continue to do the same thing over and over and expect a deferent result? I’ve been told all my life that that is a perfect example of insanity. Yet, we know this is exactly what is happening in states that are run by Democrat leadership. Their policies and laws have been having a negative and corrosive effects upon the growth and stability of their state, but they only double down and try harder with the same failed laws and policies.

I have been fighting Socialism/Liberalism (one and the same) for over half a century and during that time they have been winning because a majority of our citizens no longer give a damn. As I’ve stated so many times over the years, Democrat voters are more concerned about the price of their next frying pan than they are about who and what they’re voting for. I believe with the election of Donald Trump, even though I think he is unsuited to be President, may have awakened the sleeping giant. The faults and all the negatives of the Liberal Democrat Socialist Party are being laid bare for all to see; not only in the United States but all over the world where it is being practiced. Why do so many think they can make it work when they have been proven wrong so many times over the centuries?

“Where the left Governs, Citizens flee,” an article by Timothy H. Lee, dated March 16, 2017, points out the exodus from deep-blue states that are governed by Democrats. He points out that the 10 deep-blue states that Democrats won by the largest percentage margins – California, Massachusetts, Vermont, Hawaii, Maryland, New York, Illinois, Rhode Island, New Jersey and Connecticut – every single one of them lost to domestic migration between 2004 and 2014. He also pointed out that this exodus pattern isn’t limited to the listed states. I will point out that it’s probably happened also in many large cities not among these states, anywhere Democrats have control. He state that nearly 2.75 million more Americans left California and New York than entered those states. I believe the records since 2014 would show that migration has probably been on the increase.

We could probably say these states are reaping what they have sowed. “Their chickens have come home to roost,” but if we give this serious thought the end result is very frightening. It’s who is leaving and who is staying in these Democrat Utopias that should really concern those of us who care about the future of our country. We know who is staying; those of a like mind, or those trapped by their economic plight and illiteracy. There will mostly be the takers that are left and their situation will only worsen, because the givers, the builders, the rational thinking Liberty loving American individuals are migrating out from under the heavy thumb of Socialism/Liberalism and migrating to those state run by Republican Leadership in search of the American Dream. There may be a few exceptions as always, but they will be few.

As these blue states turn purple the more fractured and volatile our society will become. These states will be states in name only; they will be failed socialist countries, as all socialist countries do, within the boundaries of the United States and the rest of the country will be picking up the tab. California already wants to be a separate nation. Note: I am a believer that regardless of how the Supreme Court may rule, the various state were under the impression that they had that right to secede from the union any time they chose, or our Constitution would never have been ratified in the first place; I believe I read that somewhere within the The Federalist Papers. Of course Abraham Lincoln had other ideas. I hate to think what our country would be like today if the Confederacy was allowed to exist on our Southern border as an independent nation? Today we could be debating building a wall alone the Mason/Dixon Line.

I’ve mentioned in an earlier post that our laws should never be allowed to be used for our own destruction, but yet that appears to be what is happening. It appears there is nothing much a responsible government can do about it except possibly to withhold funds. Most of the major cities within these liberally controlled states are also sanctuary enclaves for criminal activity within their state. The radically Liberal Leadership within these Democrat controlled states and cities can defy Federal laws by sheltering criminals, would be murderers, and themselves virtually immune to prosecution; Accomplice, Accessory, Acquiescence and other legal terms appear not to apply. It’s conditions such as this that spawn vigilantism and that’s is the last thing we want to happen.

We can now see why Socialism/Liberalism should be subjects for debate only, never actually put to practice. We now can see that the results are disastrous to a Republic.

Huck

Who in their right mind would attempt to argue with the quotes of those great minds you have chosen to post. However, I believe on close examination they are mostly referring to Pure Democracy, of which is exactly as you have stated. “Democracy is the tyranny of the majority.” Of course the United States of America was constructed as a Republican that is ruled by representation chosen by the democratic process; this is no guarantee however, that the representation chosen cannot destroy a Republic just as fast as in a Pure Democratic state. Our founding fathers knew the success of our new Republic depended upon electing Virtuous Representation. And in that area we have failed miserably. Huck