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Jun 30, 2016 16:39:47   #
kburns50 wrote:
I believe the MARINES that are charged with protecting Embassies come under the "control" of the State Department
much like the National Guard comes under the control of the Governors. The point is Clinton's State Department ignored pleas for more security from Benghazi. That's the crime here. Nothing else. Clinton was 'ABOVE' all the petty little requests from, at the time, a very un-important, very un-glamorous, Embassy. And you F'n PL's want her to be President.


I'm sorry but that is not correct. Those marines report into Quantico.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Security_Guard
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Jun 30, 2016 16:14:07   #
S. Maturin wrote:
That's more interesting than might first seem apparent. Big governments have ways of burying responsibility as one of their beliefs is that there are no individuals and therefore no one person- even if he or she caused the murder of four (4) Americans- can be held responsible.

So who, exactly called for a halt to the ready relief and the likely rescue of American citizens in Benghazi?

WHO? Someone had to but WHO?


According to military protocol and chain of command, the TOC of AFRICOM was tasked with this decision. This has been known since the very first investigation into this. I've found the best explanation to be as follows from a career military person:

"Since most of you have never worked in a TOC (Tactical Operations Center), let me fill you in on who gives the orders to ‘stand down’. We have SOPs (Standard Operating Procedures) that we follow when an Embassy, a Base, or a Post is being attacked. Part of those procedures do NOT include calling the White House to ask for advice or permission to take action. The Battle Captain in that TOC makes the initial call to alert the QRF or CIF. Once the immediate chain of command is notified, a Colonel or a General (as in this case) will make the final decision as to ramp up, execute, or stand down. Again, we don’t ever call the White House to ask for permission or guidance in these matters. Generals already have the authority to take immediate action in those situations. That’s why we have Colonels and Generals. These High ranking officers are entrusted to make these type of decisions on the battlefield. So I hate to break it to you guys, but the President is NOT part of that decision making process. The President and high ranking officials like Hillary, Panetta, and Petraeus are eventually notified of situations like this and kept updated thereafter. However, it’s the Combatant Commander that is responsible for that area who makes the final call to execute mission or ‘stand down’. In this case, the AOR (Area of Responsibility) was AFRICOM and the Combatant Commander for AFRICOM was GEN Ham.
Although, GEN Ham is the AFRICOM Commander and would normally give the final order and what most of the media on Broadcast and Cable have failed to mention is that GEN Ham was actually in DC during the attack. In this case, his 2nd in command assumes the responsibility the day he leaves area. In addition, the Commander of SOCAFRICA also comes into play because it falls under AFRICOM and they are directly in charge of the Special Forces for that AOR. That Commander was Rear Adm Brian Losey...and he testified, along with many other officers, that there was NO stand down order ever given.
In summary, Stand Down orders are not given by the President or Hillary Clinton...that's why we have Generals, Admirals, and other Commanders.
My Background: Served 21 years in the US Army as an Infantryman...both as an enlisted member and a commissioned officer. Deployed 4 times (Bosnia, Turkey, Iraq, Afghanistan).
I also worked in a BDOC and JTOC."
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Jun 30, 2016 14:53:22   #
Big Bass wrote:
You must be watching the Cartoon Channel, too. Fox news stated that the U.S. slipped up on Benghazi, causing the deaths of those 4 Americans. Their blood is on the State Dept's (Hillary) hands.


I'm sorry but I do not understand this comment. The State Department has no authority over any military operations of the DOD. This was military all the way. Could you elaborate please?
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Jun 10, 2016 12:51:18   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Please, I'm a ghost.


Underestimating your opponent is ill advised. Opacity is but a myth.
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Jun 10, 2016 12:05:30   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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You just keep telling yourself that and we'll see how long that lasts as the Stealth invasion continues under your Unconstitutional Tax Thievery !

But that might be way over your head as well right ?

You still think personal income tax is Legal too?

You probably also think the Federal Reserve is a Government Agency too ?

You probably have no idea how corrupt the City you live in really is ? Nor do they ? Www.cafr1.com

Good Luck to you as well.


We will WAGE A CIVIL WAR to Stop and Reverse the damages to Restore the Republic, Occupy Washington approaches !
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That's funny. I didn't realize I was a tax collector. The things you learn on this site.

Wage away and rage away. Washington awaits your glorious and triumphant entrance.

But be very, very careful. Those pesky new world order types have obviously bugged your house...thanks to the Patriot Act. You may want to gas up now before the local FEMA camp opens.
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Jun 10, 2016 11:36:02   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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I've been inflamed at the Hijacked Justice system, perks, gravy train, pensions, backroom deals, Municipal Corps, groomed traitor judge selection process, voting sham, 2 party fraud gig, lobby-policy-authoring-shaping-publishing clique' n clan for over 20years... All the way down to the Law Schools these Asshole's attend.

So my Remarks are as follows:

They all work in tandem with each other in one form or another, in this case he was pre selected and given the case on Trump years ago as the Heavy hand of influence for the Clintons/Bush/Cheney/Rockefeller Soup knew Trump would run and threaten a Clinton continuation of the NWO BHO legacy.

Please bring your argument to your ignorant neighbors, friends, family, co workers who are still sucking Hind Teet while they sleep.

I'm bound by a different covenant and do not wish to argue further but I will read your link for this arguments sake.

Most of you still have no real clear picture of what or who you're really dealing with in our Hijacked Republic.


Sound fair ?
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Suit yourself. It appears you hold an extraordinary anger toward the capitalistic system that has made me, along with 5,000 newly minted millionaires each and every day grateful to be an American. And politics has had zero to do with it. Our "hijacked republic" has stood for centuries but, it seems, has left you far, far behind. But look on the bright side. At least you have your free speech and right to carry intact. Best of luck to you.
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Jun 10, 2016 10:59:24   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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IdK for sure but I do know that many operatives behind the scenes in contact with Traitor Biased Judges like this scumbag hedge their positions and issues long in advance like this case, knowing he was going to run full throttle in this election...

We are hijacked in the courts also.

People need to wake up to this kind of influencing which Jefferson warned us of many times in the Federalist Papers/ teachings...

I'm OUT !
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This "scumbag" judge, as you call him, has been exceptionally lenient toward Mr. Trump. I would recommend this link for a closer inspection of the reality and timeline behind the case before making inflammatory remarks. http://www.litigationandtrial.com/2016/06/articles/attorney/consumer-protection/curiel-trump/
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Jun 10, 2016 09:36:26   #
Sicilianthing wrote:
Any questions ?


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EXPOSED: Truth About Anti-Trump Judge Finally Comes Out… Look Who He REALLY Is

The judge in the Trump University case, who has been frequently criticized by Donald Trump’s lawyers for perceived political bias, has been revealed to have been a member of a legal group affiliated with the largest radical Hispanic organization in the United States.

According to a report in The Daily Caller, Judge Gonzalo Curiel revealed that he was a member of La Raza Lawyers of San Diego during a questionnaire before his appointment as a federal judge in 2011.

On the group’s home page, its “community” links include the radical group La Raza. La Raza, which translates literally as “the race,” has been critical of Trump’s campaign, even going as far as calling “Saturday Night Live” a “platform for hate” when “SNL” allowed Trump to appear on the show last year.

Curiel, it should be noted noted, has attended at least two meetings of La Raza Lawyers of San Diego and was involved in giving “a law school scholarship to an illegal alien” through the La Raza Lawyers of San Diego Scholarship Fund. He is also a supporter of Hillary Clinton.

“The judge was appointed by Barack Obama, federal judge. Frankly, he should recuse himself because he’s given us ruling after ruling after ruling, negative, negative, negative,” Trump said at a rally in San Diego in late May.

“What happens is the judge, who happens to be, we believe, Mexican, which is great. I think that’s fine,” he added.

In an appearance on “The Alex Jones Radio Show” on Saturday, Trump surrogate Roger Stone said it was time for the judge to recuse himself from the case.

“I think first of all it’s important to establish that the judge is not only a Mexican radical, he’s a Hillary Clinton contributor,” Stone said.

“Trump University was a real estate course and it was a very successful one for many people. Now there were a very small percentage of students who were unhappy with the success of the course because they didn’t go out and make a million dollars immediately,” Stone added.

“There’s an overwhelming satisfaction rate. The number of dollars involved here are relatively small. This scandal pales in comparison to Laureate University.”

Stone is referring to Laureate Education, America’s largest for-profit education provider. Bill Clinton was formerly an honorary chancellor, a cool $16 million dollar gig. However, when it was revealed that Hillary Clinton’s State Department had directed $55 million to a group run by Laureate Chairman Douglas Becker, Bill stepped down from the organization.

“Our organization has not been involved in organizing any of the anti-Trump rallies, much less encouraged our members or anyone to participate in any illegal activity,” La Raza Lawyers of San Diego said in a Wednesday statement. “We help empower Latino attorneys, judges and law students, and provide services to the greater local Latino community.”

Regardless, the fact that a Hillary Clinton contributor was a member of a legal group that gave a scholarship to an illegal alien could be reasonably trusted to sit on a case which involves a man running against Clinton and who has been an outspoken critic of illegal immigration. It turns out Donald Trump was right all along — this judge really is against.
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Yes. I have a question. This lawsuit, known as the "Makaeff" case was filed April 30, 2010 and transferred to Judge Muriel on January 13, 2010. How did this judge know at the the time that Trump would issue these so called racist remarks six years later after converting his political affiliation from democrat to republican? Are you saying this was a plot by the GOP to destroy Mr. Trump's run for president?
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Jun 6, 2016 09:48:25   #
PeterS wrote:
Donald J Trump has stated that--"that Judge is a Mexican and I'm trying to build a wall!" This in reference to the judge presiding over the civil suit involving Trump University. Judge Curiel's parents are from Mexico and immigrated here legally. Judge Curiel himself is from Indiana so, if anything, is a Hispanic American of Mexican decent. He isn't a Mexican though, so why is Trump calling him that? And why would a Hispanic not be able to fairly act as a Judge in a case involving Trump?

Now I bring this up because I just listened to a spokes woman for Trump adamantly state that Trump was being taken out of context and that he said neither said nor intended anything racist. But the fact remains that Trumps words speak for themselves. Trump is consistently calling someone something they aren't as a means of degrading them. Trumps ancestry is German and Scottish and no one is calling him a either. So what's Trump reason behind calling Curiel a Mexican if not to mean it as a derogatory and an attempt to demean a Judge simply because of his race?

And while I know there are those who will defend Trump the very definition of racism is to demean and degrade others simply because of their race.
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All Trump is trying to do here is plant the seed of doubt about the impartiality of the judge based on previously stated positions involving Hispanics. And that quite frankly is a disastrous move. The longer he whines about this, the longer "Trump U" stays in the limelight. It is, in my opinion, his first huge mistake and goes against his standard pitch of blast and run, blast and run. His genius is flooding the airwaves with so many rants you can't keep up. But when you stop and focus on one thing, the light begins to shine brightly on it, and people actually start to think about it logically. And that is a really bad move on his part. I am beginning to think he is trying to blast his way out of contention. At least it looks that way to me.
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May 31, 2016 13:21:54   #
Mr Shako wrote:
Did he hate the US Treasury? The Bureau of Engraving and Printing is under their jurisdiction...and they print the do-rey-me!


Yes. As a matter of fact he did. In those days, centralized banking went through the Second National Bank of the US (BUS). When its charter came up for renewal in 1836, he swore he would kill it off by not renewing its charter and ran on this as part of his platform. Further, he issued an executive order in 1833 that ended all deposits into the BUS. They went, instead, to state chartered banks.
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May 31, 2016 08:49:57   #
Hemiman wrote:
Who is who?


President Andrew Jackson, who said "The bank is trying to kill me, Sir, but I shall kill it." Why would he want to be the face of something he hated and wanted to kill? Makes no sense, unless it was done to insult him.
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May 31, 2016 08:06:37   #
bilordinary wrote:
Why choose this one to change?
The twenty has the president whom prompted the democratic symbol.
Andrew was apparently stubborn and hot tempered, his nickname (behind his back) was "Old Jackass"
Will it lead to a different symbol for the democratic party?
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I never understood why Jackson was on the 20 to begin with. He hated national banks. He's the last one who would want to be on national currency.

http://www.ushistory.org/us/24d.asp
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May 29, 2016 10:15:40   #
jelun wrote:
I am not sure, jasfourth401, that the DOD is crying poor. I think it is a certain manipulative arm of the media feeding the gullible what they want to hear.


The DOD always cries poor. The most classic examples were the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. I don't think the public understands that DOD didn't spend a dime for those wars. The money came from the "Overseas Contingency Operations" account. And all that did was put 2 trillion on this country's credit card that we now pay carry forward interest on and that jacked the debt up by 3 trillion in overall exposure. Now add on the 5 trillion we've spent for BAU (business as usual) for "regular" military spending under Obama and you're talking real money.
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May 29, 2016 06:35:40   #
oldroy wrote:
Naval Captains meeting in the Pentagon agree that the Navy of the US has been seriously depleted and will have trouble fighting anyway but defensively on our coast. I bet it is very embarrassing to have been part of the strongest navy in the world and now seeing themselves having to take parts from one fighting machine to another to keep one of them going. I believe that Obama and his friends have almost reached the plateau they wanted to get to.


http://conservativevideos.com/obama-has-destroyed-the-us-navy-captains-concerned/
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Any department of government that received almost 5 trillion in tax payer money during the current administration, and now cries poor, has an internal management problem. This is all on the DOD. It's a disgrace.
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May 25, 2016 22:10:17   #
buffalo wrote:
There certainly couldn't be anything political about being audited by the IRS. Just as there was/is no political motives behind the IRS holding up 5013C apps of conservative organizations.

Yessir, obammy has been the epitome of fiscal responsibility. Let's see, how much has the national debt gone up in his 7.5 years as the edictator in chief?

I would be willing to bet that Trump used existing Tax laws to pay as few taxes as legally possible. Why would ANYONE want to pay
more taxes than they had to to a government that wastes and frauds billions annually. Only a moonbat would think he should. As a moonbat do you pay extra taxes to help the overspending government feed its addiction? Bet not.
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Trump has been in politics for ten months, and has been audited for the last 10 years while posing as a democrat. Nothing political to see there. And are you actually saying certain people have the right to pay lower taxes than you? That's rather defeatist. What's the problem with everyone paying the same rate?
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