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Obama has destroyed the US Navy and Captains are concerned
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May 28, 2016 00:07:24   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Naval Captains meeting in the Pentagon agree that the Navy of the US has been seriously depleted and will have trouble fighting anyway but defensively on our coast. I bet it is very embarrassing to have been part of the strongest navy in the world and now seeing themselves having to take parts from one fighting machine to another to keep one of them going. I believe that Obama and his friends have almost reached the plateau they wanted to get to.


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May 28, 2016 01:28:55   #
PeterS
 
oldroy wrote:
Naval Captains meeting in the Pentagon agree that the Navy of the US has been seriously depleted and will have trouble fighting anyway but defensively on our coast. I bet it is very embarrassing to have been part of the strongest navy in the world and now seeing themselves having to take parts from one fighting machine to another to keep one of them going. I believe that Obama and his friends have almost reached the plateau they wanted to get to.


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Is this the result of Obama's policies or the result of the budget compromise made to avoid a shutdown where conservatives insisted we cut government spending? This year 5 billion will be cut form defense all because conservatives like Cruz were willing to shut down government instead of fund the programs that needed to be funded. Yeah it's a bitch but you guys got most of the budget cuts you wanted.

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May 28, 2016 02:17:29   #
Hemiman Loc: Communist California
 
PeterS wrote:
Is this the result of Obama's policies or the result of the budget compromise made to avoid a shutdown where conservatives insisted we cut government spending? This year 5 billion will be cut form defense all because conservatives like Cruz were willing to shut down government instead of fund the programs that needed to be funded. Yeah it's a bitch but you guys got most of the budget cuts you wanted.


Couldn't possibly be Obama's policies he always puts America last.

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May 28, 2016 05:36:41   #
speed 1
 
the real problem is the same as the problem with our bridges, roads, and train tracks. these were the best in the world in the 50's, but we have not maintained them, as ike said "beware of the military-industrial complex" ' they want what is best for them, not what is best for Americia.

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May 28, 2016 06:41:33   #
reconreb Loc: America / Inglis Fla.
 
oldroy wrote:
Naval Captains meeting in the Pentagon agree that the Navy of the US has been seriously depleted and will have trouble fighting anyway but defensively on our coast. I bet it is very embarrassing to have been part of the strongest navy in the world and now seeing themselves having to take parts from one fighting machine to another to keep one of them going. I believe that Obama and his friends have almost reached the plateau they wanted to get to.


http://conservativevideos.com/obama-has-destroyed-the-us-navy-captains-concerned/
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#1 Oboma policy .. weaken America any and every way possible be it military , social or morally .

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May 28, 2016 06:51:54   #
tugboat
 
speed 1 wrote:
the real problem is the same as the problem with our bridges, roads, and train tracks. these were the best in the world in the 50's, but we have not maintained them, as ike said "beware of the military-industrial complex" ' they want what is best for them, not what is best for Americia.


A strong military is what's best for America if we are going to continue to stick our nose in everyone's business.Sooner or later we're going to pay for it.

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May 28, 2016 07:32:48   #
jelun
 
tugboat wrote:
A strong military is what's best for America if we are going to continue to stick our nose in everyone's business.Sooner or later we're going to pay for it.



We pay for it more than any other facet of our society with every tax dollar we spend.

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May 28, 2016 07:37:20   #
tugboat
 
jelun wrote:
We pay for it more than any other facet of our society with every tax dollar we spend.


But the cuts that have been made are crippling us.We are going to get our asses kicked sooner than later.

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May 28, 2016 07:42:26   #
jelun
 
tugboat wrote:
But the cuts that have been made are crippling us.We are going to get our asses kicked sooner than later.



But, But... who made those cuts?

Annually we have spend hundreds of times more than other nations.
So could you explain to me how that works?
How do our enemies develop the power to overcome our navy? Which enemy is going to do that?

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May 28, 2016 07:47:25   #
tugboat
 
jelun wrote:
But, But... who made those cuts?

Annually we have spend hundreds of times more than other nations.
So could you explain to me how that works?
How do our enemies develop the power to overcome our navy? Which enemy is going to do that?


China and Russia are getting stronger and stronger.I don't care who made the cuts,they've been made.All I'm saying is to weaken our military at a time when we are fighting any and everyone's battles is a mistake.

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May 28, 2016 08:12:37   #
jelun
 
tugboat wrote:
China and Russia are getting stronger and stronger.I don't care who made the cuts,they've been made.All I'm saying is to weaken our military at a time when we are fighting any and everyone's battles is a mistake.



Could you list those battles that we are fighting? Any and everyone's? That's a lot of battles, you must have them at the top of your head.

You do realize that the heading for this thread is that Obama has destroyed...how can you not care while participating in a discussion erroneously placing blame on President Obama and not address that?
Doesn't Congress handle the appropriations for all of the defense budget? Has President Obama done a line item veto on the budget for defense?
Who is the Chair for Defense Appropriations? Who has Congressional control?
Last but not least, you are aware that the process is so long no ship that could be put into service would have been voted on in this administration, right?
And then there is this, sorta puts the lie to the whole conspiracy plot thing...
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/01/05/navy-grows-as-air-force-and-army-fight-off-personnel-cuts.html
Do you have something more recent that shows that strategy has shifted?

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May 28, 2016 08:24:11   #
tugboat
 
Read my first post.Did I mention Obama? Anywhere? Do we not still have troops in Afghanistan? In or near Iraq? UN troops? Are we not bombing Syria? My nephew is in Jordan right now.He's not there playing cards.

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May 28, 2016 08:30:12   #
jelun
 
tugboat wrote:
Read my first post.Did I mention Obama? Anywhere? Do we not still have troops in Afghanistan? In or near Iraq? UN troops? Are we not bombing Syria? My nephew is in Jordan right now.He's not there playing cards.



I shall pray for your nephew. Could you share what battles he has been in while in Jordan?
I can't imagine that he is involved in humanitarian efforts, the US military NEVER does that.
So, share please, what is it that you don't understand about logic and not emotion driving rational discussions?
Do we have the navy in Afghanistan? In Jordan?
I repeat this thread is about President Obama supposedly destroying the our naval forces. All of the other subjects you raise simply distract from the subject.
You have not responded to a single fact put forward. Could you?

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May 28, 2016 08:41:47   #
tugboat
 
jelun wrote:
I shall pray for your nephew. Could you share what battles he has been in while in Jordan?
I can't imagine that he is involved in humanitarian efforts, the US military NEVER does that.
So, share please, what is it that you don't understand about logic and not emotion driving rational discussions?
Do we have the navy in Afghanistan? In Jordan?
I repeat this thread is about President Obama supposedly destroying the our naval forces. All of the other subjects you raise simply distract from the subject.
You have not responded to a single fact put forward. Could you?
I shall pray for your nephew. Could you share what... (show quote)


I can't divulge what he does or has done.all I said was our military is weak,period.I didn’t say it was Obama's fault.I don't care who's fault it is it needs to be strengthened.our soldiers deserve to have the necessary equipment to do their job.

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May 28, 2016 13:16:22   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
jelun wrote:
But, But... who made those cuts?

Annually we have spend hundreds of times more than other nations.
So could you explain to me how that works?
How do our enemies develop the power to overcome our navy? Which enemy is going to do that?


I see here that you haven't really kept up on what the Chinese are doing with their navy. Oh well, there is a chance that some of you left leaning, Muslim supporting people may see, someday, that since our Navy and Army are both smaller than before WW II we are set up for all our more powerful enemies to come after. Of course, leaners are so very sure that we still have a military that can protect our shores and our country. You poor SOBS just can't understand that the reason our "friends" can get by without spending on defense just happens to be the fact that we do spend. That all started during WW II and continued through the 50s and 60s and even beyond, but then some of you of your group are more interested in the spread of the Muslim Caliphate than anything else.

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