lusitanean

3 JACK(ASSES)? Let me enligten you about your honorable past. Before l950, we had a vibrant, agressive, treasonous communist party in this country. In 1950 that party was banned forever, one hopes. Why? Because of high treason. What kind of treason, you ask. They gave the Soviet Union, at the height of the cold war, our atomic bomb secret. The biggest act of treason in the annals of history. Julius and Ethel Rosemberg went to the electric chair for the foul deed. And all of a sudden the treasonous commies were homeless. And since commies were no longer accepted in American society, they had to change their name. And always resourceful and treasonous they took on the name of a honorable creed: liberalism. So all of these treasonous criminals became "liberals". Imposters, all of them. And it was under this new name that they joined my then party. And, amazingly, they took it over. And therein lies the tragedy of our country. And what's even more tragic is that the innocents, the ignorant of these facts, or the plain stupid (which one of these are you?)are playing into their hands. So unless you are the descendent of one these original "liberals" and treason is in your genes, I would respectfully suggest to you that you think about it, deeply , and free yourself of the stigma of treason. And fell free again. Undoughtedly a new feeling for you.. Liberating, really.

lusitanean

Oh yes. My then party was the democratic party.

moldyoldy

Koch heads
Background[edit]

The phrase "Koch brothers" generally refers to the sons of Fred C. Koch.[7][8][9][10] The most political sons are Charles Koch and David H. Koch who bought out their brothers Frederick and Bill in 1983.[11]

David H. Koch was a Libertarian Vice-Presidential candidate in 1980.[12] He advocated the abolition of Social Security, the FBI, the CIA, and public schools.[13][14] Koch put $500,000 of his own money into the race,[14] and he and Ed Clark, his presidential running mate, won 1.1% of the vote – the best Libertarian showing in a U.S. presidential race to date.[15] But the experience caused David Koch to change course: "I had enough ... [W]e are not a nation that debates issues. We vote on candidates' personalities." By 1984, David had parted company with the Libertarian Party, because, he said, "they nominated a ticket I wasn't happy with" and "so many of the hard-core Libertarian ideas are unrealistic."[14]

David Koch has voiced support for gay marriage and U.S. military withdrawal from the Middle East. He has also stated that the government should consider defense spending cuts and tax increases to balance the budget.[16]

Interested in maintaining their privacy, they prefer to spend on donations to non-profit groups who do not disclose donors.[17]

Charles Koch funds and supports libertarian and free-market organizations such as the Cato Institute,[18] which he co-founded with Edward H. Crane and Murray Rothbard in 1977,[19] and is a board member at the Mercatus Center, a market-oriented research think tank at George Mason University. Charles Koch supported his brother's candidacy for Vice President on the Libertarian Party ticket in 1980.[4] After the bid, Charles told a reporter that conventional politics "tends to be a nasty, corrupting business ... I'm interested in advancing libertarian ideas".[4] In addition to funding think tanks, the brothers support libertarian academics;[20] since 1992, Charles has funded the Charles G. Koch Summer Fellow Program through the Institute for Humane Studies, which mentors young, self-described libertarians.[21] Charles also organizes twice yearly meetings[22] with Republican donors.[18]

The brothers promote the ideal of economic freedom as essential to society's well-being.[23]
Think tanks and political organizations[edit]

Charles and David Koch have been involved in, and have provided funding to, a number of other think tanks and advocacy organizations: They provided the initial funding for the Cato Institute, they are key donors to the Federalist Society,[32] and they also support, or are members of, the Mercatus Center, the Institute for Humane Studies, the Institute for Justice, the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution, the Institute for Energy Research, the Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment, Heritage Foundation, the Manhattan Institute, the George C. Marshall Institute, the Reason Foundation, the American Enterprise Institute,[33][34] the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC),[35] and the Fraser Institute.[36][37] As of 2011, David Koch sits on the board of directors of the Cato institute,[38] the Reason Foundation and the Aspen Institute.[39] A 2013 study by the Center for Responsive Politics said that nonprofit groups backed by a donor network organized by the billionaire industrialists Charles and David Koch raised more than $400 million in the 2011–2012 election cycle

3jack

I really don't need your history lesson on what transpired in the 1950s and your take on communism.

I stand by what I wrote about you lying, thieving, deceitful right wingers who have the talent to convince mental midgets that you are operating in their best interest, when in fact, you could care less. When the Democrats controlled the Senate, all we could hear was Harry Reid blocking the passing of 350 Republican bills designed to improve the economy. Funny how those "bills" are now suspiciously missing since the Republicans took over. Just another lie, when repeated over, and over the mentally deficient believes it. The tragedy in our country is the disingenuous motives of the Republican party of pretending to give a damn about the country, and giving idiots the false hope that they too can become rich with hard work and by keeping the lying SOBs in power. What a crock of crap...they'll never become rich unless they win a mega million dollar jackpot, and even then, they won't be accepted by the "old money" crowd. Fortunately, the majority of Americans can see through the right wing BS and it will show in the next election.

jelun

LOL, what makes you think that anyone has a right to banish the Communist Party or any line of thought in the US?
You really have a twisted sense of history.
They were not even accused of providing anything about the bomb. It was atomic secrets that the charge was about.
It was a case that would never have been won by the feds today.
We would never have developed a middle class without the immigrants who brought communist theories and thought with them along with such a strong work ethic.

badbobby Loc: texas

JELUN
SURELY EVEN YOU CAN TELL THAT PICTURE IS POSED
THE BLACK MAN IS JUST GOING ALONG WITH THE JOKE
WHY ELSE WOULOD HE HAVE HIS EYES ROLLED UP AND HIS TONGUE HANGING OUT
JUST LIKE A SHOT DEER

jelun

Of course it is posed. The cops posed it.
I know it is a stretch, try doing some research and actually reading the article.
One of the cops is in jail and the other has been fired, hopefully never to be hired by another police department.

DSchantz Loc: Saint Joseph, Missouri

Obama & company are trying to get everything in place so they can try to Nationalize our police departments.

God Bless America, God Save The Republic.

jelun

I hope that God will save someone.
Have some evidence about this nationalization of the police depts?
I keep hoping that they will be dismantled and we can start over.

moldyoldy

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Would you like to read the story?
The Chicago Police Department fought to keep private this horrendous photo taken between 1999 and 2003 of Officers Jerome Finnigan and Timothy McDermott posing with a black man as if he were a dead deer.
Maybe it's because the cash-strapped city has already paid over a half a billion dollars in settlements because of police misconduct the past 10 years alone?

Maybe it's because it was recently revealed that the Chicago Police Department has a secret facility it has been using to harass people off the record?

Maybe it's because the City of Chicago just passed a reparations bill for the many victims their police have tortured?

Even more likely, though, is that they really didn't want the identity of these two officers in the spotlight.

Officer Jerome Finnigan

Officer Jerome Finnigan, pictured on the left, is in prison for ordering a hit on another officer. Known as one of the most corrupt officers in the history of the Chicago Police Department, details of his crimes—as part of the department's secretive Special Operations Section—continue to emerge to this day.


In his plea agreement, Finnigan stipulated that he unlawfully stopped and detained persons, conducted illegal searches, and arrested individuals based on false evidence.
SOS gained notoriety in 2006, when Finnigan and others were indicted for breaking into homes without warrants, and stealing money from and even kidnapping suspects. SOS was disbanded in 2007.

Another officer, Keith Herrera, is awaiting sentencing. Two other officers were federally convicted, and seven more officers were convicted of lesser state charges.

The most egregious theft listed in the article was when Finnigan and two partners stole $450,000. The group, according to the article, stopped a driver of a pickup truck and handcuffed and frisked him. Then, with guns drawn, they searched his house, finding a leather bag filled with bricks of cash. Finnigan split the money with the two officers.
The City of Chicago seems to want Finnigan, currently housed in a Florida prison, to keep quiet because he continues to implicate other officers who have never been held responsible for the roles they played in widespread corruption of the worst kind.

Finnigan, who pleaded guilty to federal charges in 2011, told Levin the group’s stealing from suspects was more widespread than what the public knows. He told Playboy he knows of 19 officers who stole cash and personal possessions during SOS searches.
The federal complaint against Finnigan is mind-blowing. He openly discussed the different gang members and hitmen he would use to execute another officer who was giving him trouble. So prolific was Finnegan at corruption that he and the three officers he supervised accumulated over 200 internal affairs complaints. 200? How the hell is that even possible without action being taken?
Nine years before Finnigan ever spent a day in prison, he and other officers, according to a civil suit, broke into the home of a man who turned out to be a Chicago fire-fighter and tortured him in front of his wife and kids. When the fire-fighter reported it, look at what happened:


The following day the plaintiff called the Chicago Police Department ("CPD") to report the incident. The next day, May 30, 2002, an investigator from the CPD came to plaintiff's home to discuss his complaint. The investigator told plaintiff that plaintiff was a drug dealer and that his complaint was "bogus."
A day or two later, the investigator returned to plaintiff's house and told him that if he pursued his complaint the police would cause him to lose his job. Plaintiff told the investigator that he would not pursue the case so long as the police did not arrest him, plant drugs on him, or have him fired. As the investigator left plaintiff's home, he told plaintiff, "just forget about this; otherwise kiss your job goodbye, and you're fucked."

Officer Timothy McDermott

Officer Timothy McDermott, pictured on the right, was able to not only get away with the consequences of this offensive photo for more than a decade, but the consequences of a long trail of corruption during his time with the SOS and as a detective for the CPD.

In an attempt to explain why he would take such a photo, McDermott's answer is as preposterous as it gets: He blamed his young age. But he was at the time a fully grown man, serving in a special unit of the CPD when the photo was taken.


“I am embarrassed by my participation in this photograph,” he said. “I made a mistake as a young, impressionable police officer who was trying to fit in.”
Strange, isn't it? How a grown man claims youth as a legitimate excuse for such racist ugliness, but young black men half his age are treated as full-fledged adults by officers daily.
McDermott has been defended by the powers-that-be at every turn. Even at a hearing over this photo, a former top cop defended him:


Phil Cline, the former police superintendent, spoke on behalf of McDermott, who had earned 74 department awards during his career. He called McDermott a “very hard-working policeman, the type of policeman I wanted working for us and his character was impeccable.”
Except, his character wasn't impeccable. Not at all.
McDermott served in the same corrupt private squad, the SOS, with Finnigan for four years. During that time, he was named in four different lawsuits.

The report against McDermott shows the great lengths so many people went to protect him.

In this lawsuit, Terrance Thompson, who had his sentence vacated after all the officers who arrested him were convicted for corruption, names McDermott as one of the officers who planted a gun on him and illegally detained him. As a consequence of a lawsuit, Thompson was eventually awarded $400,000 for the three years he spent in prison.


On August 21, 2002, officers from the Chicago Police Department’s Special Operations Section (SOS), including Timothy McDermott, arrested 46-year-old Gloria Salcedo and her daughters, 21-year-old Claudia Salcedo and 17-year-old Teresa Salcedo on charges of battery of a police officer.
Gloria Salcedo filed a lawsuit against Officer McDermott and others and was exonerated after it was determined that the officers lied.
She is now listed in the National Registry of Exonerations.

According to the Chicago Sun Times:


McDermott is the stepson of former Chicago Police Deputy Supt. Thomas Byrne, who also spoke glowingly of him during the police board hearing. Byrne was a powerful figure within former Mayor Richard M. Daley’s administration and later went on to run the Department of Streets and Sanitation for Daley.
Court records show McDermott was a defendant in four federal lawsuits accusing him and other officers of misconduct while he was assigned to the Special Operations Section and later, when he was a detective.

The city paid settlements in three of the cases and a jury awarded damages in a fourth case — with a total payout of $162,000. The city also paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in fees to the plaintiffs’ attorneys, records show.

But the lawsuits did not come up at McDermott’s police board hearing.
While this photo is egregious, what's worse is that the Chicago Police Department has gone to great lengths to keep it and both officers in it out of the limelight.

badbobby Loc: texas

no argument there Moldy
I am aware that there is certainly corruption and downright
meanness in our police departments
but these are definitely the few who bring the tag "bad cop"
to the majority of our policemen.
I am sure you realize that there is corruption and meanness in any large organization
most cops are decent hard working ,God fearing people
I hope you never really need assistance from the police
but if you do they will be there for you

jelun

And there we have another proof that the assumptions that people make about the violence propulgated on society by blacks is plain bull puckey.
Over and over (times 3000) we are presented with information provided first hand by errant cops that they have twisted, lied, coerced and beaten innocent people into jail is very telling.
That Laquan McDonald case is pretty interesting as well.
Now there is surveillance video missing.
Witnesses to the homocide sent away.
What a bunch of creeps.

jelun

I hope that he never has a son or grandson just walking down the street or driving in a car with no taillight out...
this was not a couple of "bad guys". Finnigan led a whole crew of criminal cops.
A gang in other words, the Irish Mob in BLUE.

Loki Loc: Georgia

There are still some Liberals who insist that only cops should be allowed to own guns.

moldyoldy

I think the fear that cops have now, with so many people armed, is part of the problem. They shoot right away, then check to see if you are armed.