God bless his un-democratic reign, that's very funny, seriously. The right was living a false real victory the entire time Trump was in office, once Bernie backed out, which he did for the cause, Trump wasn't going to win, he new that, why don't you? Why else would he start to clammer about a false election results before it even started! For Pete's sake man, and yet you all still bought it. Amazing really.

Minimum wage wouldn't have to take such a giant step if congress, on both sides, had addressed the issue, let's say at least a decade ago, just to be kind. By now it is beyond ridiculous, right now people are working an hour just to be able to buy a loaf of bread and a gallon of milk, just saying to try and put things in perspective for you. Personally I don't think that big of a step is wise, especially right now. What I think they should do is increase to $12.00 dollars hr. with scheduled increases every year, just as they do with government employees and their cost of living adjustments.

We'll see about his job killing actions and the actions done by right leaning companies, that's what it truly comes down to, along with gas prices. Industry will put on the pressure and stroke the people like Trump who kiss their arse and fall into line, be damned the economy or the environment.

I like the way you guys have these long posts but our short replies are rants, LOL

EXCELLENT Read
Our starting point, in order to return to the America that we all grew up with and revere must begin at our borders. Once we make our stand (And it must be a strong and definitive stand) then and only then will Congress, Senate, and Washington, including 100% of the lobbyists, realize that Americans are a force to be reckoned with. We must make these Politicians realize that they work for us, We The People.!!

What are we going to do?

For Trump supporters and for avid Constitutionals, this is a burning question! Is there sufficient cause to undergo such a fateful enterprise as revolution against our government? This is not an easy question at all, since we are dedicated to the 240-year-old form of government we have had, are very loyal to it, and do not want to totally disrupt our way of life without serious evidence of the necessity to act. Our generation was brought up with intimate knowledge and appreciation of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

The movement to change our way of governing has been long in preparation, and it stems from several causes that are antagonistic to our republican state.

Collectivism

The first and foremost threat are the so-called progressives, socialists and communists in our midst that have had a master plan to take over our nation for a long, long time. That plan was first published by Antonio Gramski, an Italian communist, as the slow, step-by-step, non-physical manner of attack on a nation to convert it to communism. The Gramski method was taken up by Saul Alinsky in his “Rules for Radicals”, and further supported by Cloward and Pivin: and, all of their details can be looked up on line in Wikipedia.

The total number of Marxist and the like followers here in the US is simply not known, but a considerable number voted for Biden in his highly dubious win of the presidency over Donald Trump. The chaos Biden and Harris will create is yet to be fully understood, but the obvious beginning measure is frightening: our National Debt is headed for at least another $3 or $4 Trillion, running the total up to $33 or $34 Trillion, or even more, which by many measures is not sustainable.


China

The second threatening movement has been initialized by the People’s Republic of China (PRC), that have stealthily integrated themselves into our industry and financial sectors to steal our industrial and military secrets to feed their own growing industrial and military powers. We typically have well over 250,000 Chinese students in our colleges and universities, whose allegiance is obviously to the PRC, yet they penetrate our society almost at will because of our lenient policies and their lavish use of money to purchase or bribe their way. The PRC is dedicated to world domination and we are their prime target.

Islam

The third threatening movement is Islam, whose will and plan to dominate the world for the Islamic way of governing and worshiping is also dedicated to overthrowing the United States by long-term stealth. By some counts, they already have over 11 million citizens and non-citizens in the US out of their 1.5 billion worldwide, and they have dispensation to integrate into US society and even religions until the time comes to act. This movement is well-financed by the oil magnates of the Middle East.

It would pay dividends if more American citizens were to read their defining documents: the Koran, the Shariah Law, the Hadith, the Sura and the Sunnah; even the Fatwas that guide their daily actions. Or, at least find summaries that reliably report their content. Looking up Jihad on line would be a real eyeopener! The Muslims are taking full advantage of the freedom of religion we enjoy to undermine the nation.

So here we are, loyal Americans, the nation’s population of about 350 million souls, most of them intensely patriotic, but simply unaware or poorly aware of the dangerous and building activities the three anti-American movements are executing as I write here. Even if they are aware, there is no known unifying call to defend the nation or organization and leadership to lead the way. There must be a wake-up call all around!

A common thread to these attacks on America seems to be the necessity to reduce the nation to chaos, bankruptcy, military weakness and moral decay, before seizing control of the situation and rebuilding the nation along their desired lines. This is the classic methods of Marxism and Islam. Our Constitution as written stands in their way, hence the intense efforts to bring it down, subvert its principals, and throw open the gates of anarchy.

Globalization

While the final movement winner is not clear, we have yet to account for a more insidious movement: globalization of government under one or a sort of amalgam of the threat movements to achieve mastery of a world government. I suggest that the Communistic forces are the greater threat. One wonders how many US and world citizens support the notion of a communistic world government and the elimination of US sovereignty, as well as the sovereignty of 120 or so other nations.

This would come along with iron rule of our citizenry by foreigners in an un-elected world government. A government with the power of its own military to force nations in line. What matters to these people is the power of the US. If we are reduced to relative helplessness, the rest of the world’s nations will more easily fall. We could be left in the chaos they have created for a long time.

The first answer to the question of revolt is: No, Not Now!
If Republicans retake the House and Senate in 2022 and the Presidency in 2024, or sooner, we may gain a breather from our enemies. Only if, however, the Republicans and the President are not only aware of the threats and debate it incessantly, but also take many serious actions to stop it all.

One may ask, “is that too late?” I do not know. Would the Republicans be effective after the 2022 win, with a Biden/Harris or just Harris administration still on top? I am not sure, but it doesn’t seem likely. The 2024 election is far away.

The second and highly speculative answer is: The Sooner the Better! In this case, we would need a lot to happen that may or may not be underway right now. I do not know this either. We would need the right leadership, the majority of the military with all of its weaponry, all of the militias in the states, and a majority of our citizens support of the actions to recover the Constitution, to remove the proven traitors in government, to eliminate the threats as rapidly as possible, and to return the US to its former self.

Our citizens, a great majority of them, would have to step up and demand the return to a sane government, and for them to do that, they must become fully aware of the situation and the evidence of anti-American activity, and must be provoked by the actions from on high, triggered you might say, to take whatever action is needed.

Obviously, the further danger in this event would be the rise of a dictatorial government of some kind here in the US, spawned by their success in thwarting our enemies, just as many third world nations have, and that they would be self-perpetuating. OOPS!

This is indeed a tall order any way you want to go!

What is the right answer? I do not know!

What are we going to do?

For Trump supporters and for avid Constitutionals, this is a burning question! Is there sufficient cause to undergo such a fateful enterprise as revolution against our government? This is not an easy question at all, since we are dedicated to the 240-year-old form of government we have had, are very loyal to it, and do not want to totally disrupt our way of life without serious evidence of the necessity to act. Our generation was brought up with intimate knowledge and appreciation of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

The movement to change our way of governing has been long in preparation, and it stems from several causes that are antagonistic to our republican state.

Collectivism

The first and foremost threat are the so-called progressives, socialists and communists in our midst that have had a master plan to take over our nation for a long, long time. That plan was first published by Antonio Gramski, an Italian communist, as the slow, step-by-step, non-physical manner of attack on a nation to convert it to communism. The Gramski method was taken up by Saul Alinsky in his “Rules for Radicals”, and further supported by Cloward and Pivin: and, all of their details can be looked up on line in Wikipedia.

The total number of Marxist and the like followers here in the US is simply not known, but a considerable number voted for Biden in his highly dubious win of the presidency over Donald Trump. The chaos Biden and Harris will create is yet to be fully understood, but the obvious beginning measure is frightening: our National Debt is headed for at least another $3 or $4 Trillion, running the total up to $33 or $34 Trillion, or even more, which by many measures is not sustainable.


China

The second threatening movement has been initialized by the People’s Republic of China (PRC), that have stealthily integrated themselves into our industry and financial sectors to steal our industrial and military secrets to feed their own growing industrial and military powers. We typically have well over 250,000 Chinese students in our colleges and universities, whose allegiance is obviously to the PRC, yet they penetrate our society almost at will because of our lenient policies and their lavish use of money to purchase or bribe their way. The PRC is dedicated to world domination and we are their prime target.

Islam

The third threatening movement is Islam, whose will and plan to dominate the world for the Islamic way of governing and worshiping is also dedicated to overthrowing the United States by long-term stealth. By some counts, they already have over 11 million citizens and non-citizens in the US out of their 1.5 billion worldwide, and they have dispensation to integrate into US society and even religions until the time comes to act. This movement is well-financed by the oil magnates of the Middle East.

It would pay dividends if more American citizens were to read their defining documents: the Koran, the Shariah Law, the Hadith, the Sura and the Sunnah; even the Fatwas that guide their daily actions. Or, at least find summaries that reliably report their content. Looking up Jihad on line would be a real eyeopener! The Muslims are taking full advantage of the freedom of religion we enjoy to undermine the nation.

So here we are, loyal Americans, the nation’s population of about 350 million souls, most of them intensely patriotic, but simply unaware or poorly aware of the dangerous and building activities the three anti-American movements are executing as I write here. Even if they are aware, there is no known unifying call to defend the nation or organization and leadership to lead the way. There must be a wake-up call all around!

A common thread to these attacks on America seems to be the necessity to reduce the nation to chaos, bankruptcy, military weakness and moral decay, before seizing control of the situation and rebuilding the nation along their desired lines. This is the classic methods of Marxism and Islam. Our Constitution as written stands in their way, hence the intense efforts to bring it down, subvert its principals, and throw open the gates of anarchy.

Globalization

While the final movement winner is not clear, we have yet to account for a more insidious movement: globalization of government under one or a sort of amalgam of the threat movements to achieve mastery of a world government. I suggest that the Communistic forces are the greater threat. One wonders how many US and world citizens support the notion of a communistic world government and the elimination of US sovereignty, as well as the sovereignty of 120 or so other nations.

This would come along with iron rule of our citizenry by foreigners in an un-elected world government. A government with the power of its own military to force nations in line. What matters to these people is the power of the US. If we are reduced to relative helplessness, the rest of the world’s nations will more easily fall. We could be left in the chaos they have created for a long time.

The first answer to the question of revolt is: No, Not Now!
If Republicans retake the House and Senate in 2022 and the Presidency in 2024, or sooner, we may gain a breather from our enemies. Only if, however, the Republicans and the President are not only aware of the threats and debate it incessantly, but also take many serious actions to stop it all.

One may ask, “is that too late?” I do not know. Would the Republicans be effective after the 2022 win, with a Biden/Harris or just Harris administration still on top? I am not sure, but it doesn’t seem likely. The 2024 election is far away.

The second and highly speculative answer is: The Sooner the Better! In this case, we would need a lot to happen that may or may not be underway right now. I do not know this either. We would need the right leadership, the majority of the military with all of its weaponry, all of the militias in the states, and a majority of our citizens support of the actions to recover the Constitution, to remove the proven traitors in government, to eliminate the threats as rapidly as possible, and to return the US to its former self.

Our citizens, a great majority of them, would have to step up and demand the return to a sane government, and for them to do that, they must become fully aware of the situation and the evidence of anti-American activity, and must be provoked by the actions from on high, triggered you might say, to take whatever action is needed.

Obviously, the further danger in this event would be the rise of a dictatorial government of some kind here in the US, spawned by their success in thwarting our enemies, just as many third world nations have, and that they would be self-perpetuating. OOPS!

This is indeed a tall order any way you want to go!

What is the right answer? I do not know!

Excellent post Manning. Remember that you are among the few who really comprehend the severity of this mess. In my observation there are only 2 options for the country. One option, because of apathy, immorality, ect., that has been so successfully implemented through years of brainwashing and demoralization , is to watch as the country crumbles to 3rd world or worse status. This is the likely outcome. The 2nd option is for independent realists to organize and carry out a revolution much like the 1776 revolutionary war. I see this degree of organization as impossible to implement. Wish I could have some optimism but I do not. America's 245 years has already exceeded it's expected life expectancy. In short , it's over. Our only concern now is to take care of ourselves.